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#689544 - 06/19/11 03:25 AM Re: CHROME to the bone.... * [Re: eyeFISH]
Man of logic Offline
Spawner

Registered: 12/20/10
Posts: 962
Loc: the moon
Very nice. We must have a doctor on our hands, mr. mendel.
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#689545 - 06/19/11 03:53 AM Re: CHROME to the bone.... [Re: eyeFISH]
Keta Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/05/00
Posts: 1092
chi·me·ra also chi·mae·ra (k-mīr, k-)
n.
1.
a. An organism, organ, or part consisting of two or more tissues of different genetic composition, produced as a result of organ transplant, grafting, or genetic engineering.

Must be a mad doctor out there doing weird science on some of the salmon I catch. smile

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#690547 - 06/23/11 11:38 PM Re: CHROME to the bone.... [Re: Keta]
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Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/13/00
Posts: 1865
Loc: Kelso Wa.
44 and 42 lbs. white kings hit the scales here today, getting to be about that time that the big boys show up! :-)

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#690570 - 06/24/11 01:14 AM Re: CHROME to the bone.... [Re: AkKings]
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Ornamental Rice Bowl

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12766
Saw another fish with similar sumo wrestler build in an SSJ ad for Queen Charlotte Lodge.... fatty for sure. Almost certainly another Skeena fish, eh?
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#690709 - 06/25/11 12:41 AM Re: CHROME to the bone.... [Re: eyeFISH]
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Spoke to the lead chinook biologist for Northern BC today. He made a deal with the QCL to start sampling every king over 40 and he would run the DNA. Turns out over 70% of those giant fish come from two places.... Kalum and Wannock, most of them from Kalum.

Went to the PSC website to research exploitation on the Kalum fish.

Total exploitation in the database is about 39% and escapement sits at about 61% averaged over the past 10 years. In contrast, WA coast indicator stock (Queets) is just the reverse.... half again as much exploitation at 60% with escapement at about 40%.

About 1/2 of the harvested Kalum fish are taken in SE-AK (49 %) the other half is taken in BC (51 %). The cumulative comm/rec split is also pretty close to 50:50.... 51.5 % comm versus 48.5 % rec.

What I found interesting is that no interceptons north/west of SE-AK were accounted for. NONE! It's obvious these fish are low holed in the Bering Sea, Kodiak. and the Gulf of AK.... but there's apparently no accounting for that in the PSC documents.

I have posed the question "WHY" to the chinook bio from BC. Sure seems like a HUGE oversight in the database.
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#690809 - 06/26/11 10:56 AM Re: CHROME to the bone.... [Re: ]
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Fry

Registered: 03/13/11
Posts: 23
Loc: Juneau, Alaska
white kings-best salmon I've ever had. Used to get them from a commercial troller when I spent a winter in Wrangell. Cooked 'em on a George Foreman Grill with a litle bit of fish rub. Tres Manifique!

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#970446 - 12/27/16 09:16 PM Re: CHROME to the bone.... [Re: eyeFISH]
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Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12766
Originally Posted By: eyeFISH
OK... I have the answer to the mystery question....

"Whose giant white kings are getting low-holed in Kodiak?"

I finally sent the DNA off for analysis on Monday (yeah, like 2 days ago) and I already have the answer! Friends in low places I guess?

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Here's the response....

You were in luck – we were running some in-season samples today so I got the genotype! I assigned it to the GAPs Chinook baseline and it had a high likelihood of assignment (99.9%) to Lower Kalum River on the Skeena, so it looks like Coastal Canada genetically.

My original thought about what river consistently produces 60, 70, 80-pound caliber chinook was one of three possible places. Kenai, Skeena, or Rivers Inlet. Fraser was thrown into the mix for its propensity to produce a lot of white kings. And we even had a bio in AK comment that he thought these were Fraser origin. But there's no real evidence to support the ability to produce GIANT white kings. Kenai was thrown out because it produces ZERO white kings and even its giant fish are NOT built like that. Rivers Inlet (Wannock River) was thrown out because John Beath (outdoor writer and former Rivers Inlet lodge operator) said their fish don't look like that.

So there you have it... we've come full circle... iron-clad proof it's a Skeena fish!

WOW.... mystery solved.




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#970483 - 12/28/16 01:40 PM Re: CHROME to the bone.... [Re: eyeFISH]
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Alevin

Registered: 04/10/14
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My relatives were commercial fisherman (trollers) many years ago. They use to fish the Whites inside the bar at Westport. I remember them saying they would get less per pound for them. They would also fish for fun on the Chehalis (plunk) and they would catch some huge kings. I can't tell you if they were Whites or not (no pics).

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