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#975224 - 03/20/17 10:59 AM Entry level trout rod
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I want to start fly fishing. I can't envision doing much besides trout fishing (for now anyway).

What is a decent entry level setup? I don't want to spend any more than necessary. I will likely fish mountain lakes, rivers, and small streams.

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#975226 - 03/20/17 11:30 AM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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Hmm...

My guess would be a med fast 9' 5wt two piece all set up and ready to play, might do ya. I think the Cabela stores were offering their RLS plus Fly Combo for $140 or so out the door.

If you're walking trails in the hills and woods, then maybe think about the three or four piece version of same. Easier to pack in perhaps.

Or,

Wait a bit here, cuz there are lots here ready to offer you a great deal on one of their rods no longer used. Rumor has it that most Fly loggers here have at least 13 extra outfits ready to go, but rarely get flogged anymore ?

Good Luck.


Edited by Myassisdragon (03/20/17 11:31 AM)
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Hmmm

- "Wild steelhead were more numerous this year than they were in the 1970s"
- "Harvest of wild steelhead has been so low over the last 20 years that it is not a factor affecting wild steelhead abundance"

"It's past the time to "play nice", after all, they are pooching us royally."

D'uh!

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#975228 - 03/20/17 11:57 AM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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Personally, I'd look for a 8.5' or 9' 5 wt for a good all around starter rod.
If you plan to fish a lot of small brushy streams, consider going with a shorter rod in the 7.5-8' range.
Budget wise, you can be all over the place but $100 to $150.00 for a rod should get you set up. Look at something like the Redington Classic Trout series.

The rod and line will be more important then reel. Just about any reel will work for how you plan to fish. Consider it a line holder, as you'll likely never see the backing.

You'll want to start out with a weight forward (WF) floating line. Some of the complete rod, reel and line set-ups come with a line, but they tend to be less then great.
A Cortland 444 would be a good option.

Mad,
What's wrong with having too many wonder wands?
OK, I'll admit I had seven 6 wts....but I sold one this weekend.
Would that be considered thinning the herd? wink
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#975243 - 03/20/17 02:46 PM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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smile

Ya still have the glass rod I sold ya , or did that one get sold off ?
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#975244 - 03/20/17 02:49 PM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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Sold it off.
Had to wipe off the dust off to see what brand it was. wink
My buddy is putting it to good use.

By the way....
I have a 9', 2 pc, 3 wt Loomis IMX with sock and tube available if someone needs a light stick.
SF


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#975264 - 03/21/17 08:58 AM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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9' 5 wt is the most popular fly rod sold in the U.S., and for good reason. It's close to perfect as an all around trout and pan fish rod. The Redington Classic Trout that Stonefish mentioned is thought by many to be the best of the lower price point offerings in the market. I think they are currently priced around $130. Other good value options are offered by Cabela's in their Three Forks (cheapest at around $65), RLS, and LSi lines. Any of those series can be offered on sale, so check often. I bought a couple Cabela's Three Forks rods just to see how bad a cheap fly rod can be, and they are incredibly good for the price.

Good fly lines are pretty expensive. My favorite is the Cortland 444 peach color that has been around for over 40 years. They currently run about $60. However, there is a rumor that the house brand sold by Hook & Hackle is a re-labeled issue of that well known famous line in olive color at around $35 or so. I bought one in a 3 wt to pair with my Classic Trout, and it casts like the real deal, although I haven't used it enough to know if it's as long lasting as the real deal.

The best deal I've seen on entry level fly reels are the many old cheap reels on E-bay that can be had for around $30. They originally sold for less than $10, last forever, are no longer popular, and therefore for sale cheap. Buy one, clean it up, oil it, and fish it for as long as you like.

The above is the good quality, low price alternative, that most newbies reject due to lack of high zoot cool factor, and then they go buy some POS Okuma because it has a disc drag that no one really needs.

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#975267 - 03/21/17 10:28 AM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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" You'll want to start out with a weight forward (WF) floating line. "

Interesting point, and I'm surely not going to question the choice of the WF as a starter taper, but I would offer this old schooler's instruction.

When my grandpa, back in a time many years ago on a little creek just outside of Anaconda, Mt. was showing us kids the beginnings of some fly fishing notions, he always stated that the old double taper (DT) floating fly-line was the easiest to master for beginners. He claimed it was easier to pick that taper off the water at the start of the cast, and it offered the option of switching the fly line around when one end of the taper was worn. Not sure if it was true, but DT floaters were all he was willing to experiment with when it came to letting us kids whip the water to a flogger's froth.

SF, how many 6 wts are lying around now ?
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Hmmm

- "Wild steelhead were more numerous this year than they were in the 1970s"
- "Harvest of wild steelhead has been so low over the last 20 years that it is not a factor affecting wild steelhead abundance"

"It's past the time to "play nice", after all, they are pooching us royally."

D'uh!

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#975268 - 03/21/17 10:34 AM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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You'll probably do best picking up an older used rod and reel set up for 100-150, and plenty of them out there to buy.

I'm short on 6 wts, only have two, but.....long on 5 wts with 5 of 'em.

smile
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#975282 - 03/21/17 02:57 PM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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I remember those days when I still knew how many rods I had.

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#975286 - 03/21/17 03:35 PM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: Salmo g.]
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
I remember those days when I still knew how many rods I had.


Sg,
Have you considered taking pictures of them for better inventory control? grin

Myass,
Down to five 6wts now, sold two this week.
Now, what to buy? LOL
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#975287 - 03/21/17 03:37 PM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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I got rid of some rods 5 years ago or so, and figured I'd never miss them.

I was right, except for that Winston 3 wt.....that one I wish I still had....sweet stick....
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#975292 - 03/21/17 05:06 PM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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I always wished for a nice little 3 weight. Then, I'd have the time machine carry me back to a couple of the little creeks we used to fish as younger folk.

BU,

How long was the #3 Winston you let go ?
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Hmmm

- "Wild steelhead were more numerous this year than they were in the 1970s"
- "Harvest of wild steelhead has been so low over the last 20 years that it is not a factor affecting wild steelhead abundance"

"It's past the time to "play nice", after all, they are pooching us royally."

D'uh!

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#975293 - 03/21/17 05:12 PM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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It was an 8' winston traditional....

Really nice small water rod.

I still want another one, but ........I want a lot of things.

smile
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#975295 - 03/21/17 07:30 PM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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Pretty much what everyone else has said, but I will add that your cast is everything (more so than your equipment). A great rod will make a poor caster look OK. A great caster will make a poor rod look amazing. Like Golf, it's hard to unlearn bad technique, so go slowly and get the basics right so you don't have to rebuild anything later. 5 wt. 9' medium action, Cortland 444 WF. Yes, WF. I'd stay away from stiff, fast action rods while you are starting out. It's about line feedback when you are starting out and a medium rod flexes more to transmit said feeling. Also get yourself a metronome and some hula hoops. When practicing in the yard, tie or strap your wrist tight to your rod butt. Do not break your wrist!

Once you put the pieces together and start fishing...learn how to fish without a strike indicator.
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#975299 - 03/21/17 08:10 PM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: Myassisdragon]
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Originally Posted By: Myassisdragon
I always wished for a nice little 3 weight. Then, I'd have the time machine carry me back to a couple of the little creeks we used to fish as younger folk.


$200.00 and a 3wt Loomis IMX emerges from my closet like a graphite hatch and fulfills your wishes..... wink
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#975301 - 03/21/17 10:25 PM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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Like a Bass on a deer hair popper, that was close! thumbs

How long is this IMX in said closet ?
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Hmmm

- "Wild steelhead were more numerous this year than they were in the 1970s"
- "Harvest of wild steelhead has been so low over the last 20 years that it is not a factor affecting wild steelhead abundance"

"It's past the time to "play nice", after all, they are pooching us royally."

D'uh!

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#975304 - 03/22/17 06:01 AM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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9 footer, 2 pc
I just don't fish trout much anymore, so it needs to find a new home.
SF
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#975313 - 03/22/17 11:10 AM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: wsu]
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Now comes the fun stuff !

As no one else here is taking the bait on this fly rod ? - SF, does this 9 ft 2 piece IMX come with any hardly used 3 wt fly lines and/or any other 3 wt accessories like maybe an old, but Perfect, Hardy fly reel perhaps, or just the stick, glove and tube ? wink

PM sent.
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Hmmm

- "Wild steelhead were more numerous this year than they were in the 1970s"
- "Harvest of wild steelhead has been so low over the last 20 years that it is not a factor affecting wild steelhead abundance"

"It's past the time to "play nice", after all, they are pooching us royally."

D'uh!

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#975453 - 03/24/17 03:44 PM Re: Entry level trout rod [Re: stonefish]
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Originally Posted By: stonefish
Originally Posted By: Myassisdragon
I always wished for a nice little 3 weight. Then, I'd have the time machine carry me back to a couple of the little creeks we used to fish as younger folk.


$200.00 and a 3wt Loomis IMX emerges from my closet like a graphite hatch and fulfills your wishes..... wink
Sf


S, watch out! This one is trained in the ways of the graphite
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