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#976041 - 04/06/17 11:02 AM Re: WDFW Leadership [Re: Salmo g.]
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.

Since commercial fishing brings in less than 3% of the Department's budget, this could be a golden opportunity for the Department to close hatcheries that primarily produce salmon for BC and the small NT commercial fleets in GH, WB, and LCR. The Department should spend no more on commercial fishing than commercial fishing contributes to the Department, unless the Legislature chooses to provide GF $ to subsidize welfare fishing. That could alleviate most, if not all, of the projected budget shortfall.


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#976046 - 04/06/17 11:39 AM Re: WDFW Leadership [Re: Lucky Louie]
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Since commercial fishing brings in less than 3% of the Department's budget, this could be a golden opportunity for the Department to close hatcheries that primarily produce salmon for BC and the small NT commercial fleets in GH, WB, and LCR. The Department should spend no more on commercial fishing than commercial fishing contributes to the Department, unless the Legislature chooses to provide GF $ to subsidize welfare fishing. That could alleviate most, if not all, of the projected budget shortfall.


It is a interesting concept but it does not come without consequences. Reduce the number of hatchery fish in the ocean pool and impacts on natural production will rise rapidly but it takes 3 years to show and 4 & 5 ( Chinook ) to really kick in. So you end up with the old problem of intercept fisheries being at the root of any changes. There are a couple of places in our state that if you take out hatchery production both Rec and NT Commercials are history with a vastly diminished tribal catch all that is left.

So the argument that is the hatcheries or Rec fisher that are the problem is not exactly true but absolutely true depending on your location.

On another note Willapa has Rec priority so that is a bit off BUT WDF&W staff keep trying to chip away at that so right / wrong at the same time. As to GH the NT Commercial impacts are limited by policy but as in Willapa games are played some but nuthin like elsewhere. I will stay out of the LCR bit as I know little but again reduce the ocean pool without reform to AK & BC and nothing good happens.
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#976047 - 04/06/17 11:49 AM Re: WDFW Leadership [Re: The Moderator]
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#976056 - 04/06/17 02:35 PM Re: WDFW Leadership [Re: The Moderator]
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‘The powers to be’----have spoken.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news...gn=RSS_politics

Gov. Jay Inslee’s handling of nominations for a federal fishery-council seat has come under attack from the leaders of major North Pacific fishing-industry groups, which have taken the unusual step of sending a complaint letter to the U.S. Secretary of Commerce.

In their letter sent Tuesday, they asked Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross to reject Inslee’s nominations and called for the governor to come up with some new names for a seat on the council. The industry backlash reflects the high stakes in fish politics, where the federal fishery council helps sets the rules for a billion-dollar groundfish harvest, much of which is caught and processed by Seattle-based companies.
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#976061 - 04/06/17 04:06 PM Re: WDFW Leadership [Re: The Moderator]
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Well, at Least Inslee's recommendations are for more selective longliners. No matter what gear they favor, I'm sure they'll still manage to harvest over half our fish before they see the Lower 48. If that entails less bycatch and a healthier ocean floor, I guess we had better take it.

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#976066 - 04/06/17 04:45 PM Re: WDFW Leadership [Re: Lucky Louie]
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Originally Posted By: Lucky Louie
‘The powers to be’----have spoken.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news...gn=RSS_politics

Gov. Jay Inslee’s handling of nominations for a federal fishery-council seat has come under attack from the leaders of major North Pacific fishing-industry groups, which have taken the unusual step of sending a complaint letter to the U.S. Secretary of Commerce.

In their letter sent Tuesday, they asked Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross to reject Inslee’s nominations and called for the governor to come up with some new names for a seat on the council. The industry backlash reflects the high stakes in fish politics, where the federal fishery council helps sets the rules for a billion-dollar groundfish harvest, much of which is caught and processed by Seattle-based companies.


If the powers to be like to stack the deck, then what would happen if say a director of WDFW was appointed that wasn’t an “Ocean Guy”? eek2

"Ocean Guy" definition:

One that protects the integrity of commercial ocean fisheries, with a sprinkling of just enough sport for aesthetic value, while throwing anadromous state fisheries under the bus.


Edited by Lucky Louie (04/06/17 05:03 PM)
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