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#495115 - 03/12/09 05:29 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: docspud]
Mikespike Offline
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Originally Posted By: docspud

But dont tell me that I am some rish SOB and dont pay my share when half the country pays nothing and I give over a 1/3 of all I make now. That arguement is old and tired. We are not all "multi-millionaires" living on the beach in Cape Cod.


Doc-

you just made his point. You are paying through the nose and the "cape cods" are not.
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#495118 - 03/12/09 05:39 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: Mikespike]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mikespike
Originally Posted By: docspud

But dont tell me that I am some rish SOB and dont pay my share when half the country pays nothing and I give over a 1/3 of all I make now. That arguement is old and tired. We are not all "multi-millionaires" living on the beach in Cape Cod.


Doc-

you just made his point. You are paying through the nose and the "cape cods" are not.


But according to Hussein he is rich, hard work and good planning be damned, Luckily Doc will get to pay more than his share to take care of the nations fuk ups and degenerates.
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#495121 - 03/12/09 05:52 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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thats very thoughtful of him

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#495131 - 03/12/09 06:09 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: dewbie]
stlhead Offline
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I'm for a flat tax zero deductions for anybody or anything. But that would also mean you can't deduct any of that $2 mil in debt either. It's yours and yours alone.
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#495143 - 03/12/09 06:36 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: stlhead]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Originally Posted By: stlhead
I'm for a flat tax zero deductions for anybody or anything. But that would also mean you can't deduct any of that $2 mil in debt either. It's yours and yours alone.


Same rate for all citizens?
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#495148 - 03/12/09 06:54 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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Wow Docspud... you have got to be one of the most perceptive individuals I have ever encountered! eek2

You done got my whole political / ideological philosophy all figgered out from just ONE sentence! cowboy

I made NO value judgements EITHER way. I merely pointed out that the top marginal rate was around 70% when Reagan took office. It is now at 35%. Seeing as how taxes are supposed to be the cost of the use of the commons... what percentage would you suggest that multi-millionaires pay?


Also... If YOU actually pay 35% in federal income tax... might I suggest getting a new accountant. I recommend mine... Seymore Dinero. thumbs
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#495279 - 03/13/09 11:23 AM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: ]
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"Same rate for all citizens?"

Yes. But no deductions even for corps. time to move towards true capitalism where businesses and industries aren't artificially propped up on the backs of the taxpayer.
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#495291 - 03/13/09 12:00 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: stlhead]
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A man bellies up to a bar muttering,"asshole democrats". A guy next to him says, "Hey I take offense to that". The man says, "Why, are you a democrat". No the guy says "I'm an asshole".

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#495292 - 03/13/09 12:01 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: alanmikkelsen]
dewbie Offline
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Originally Posted By: alanmikkelsen
A man bellies up to a bar muttering,"asshole democrats". A guy next to him says, "Hey I take offense to that". The man says, "Why, are you a democrat". No the guy says "I'm an asshole".

slap

rofl

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#495296 - 03/13/09 12:15 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: dewbie]
EnglishPete Offline
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Registered: 03/13/09
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You simple Americans. Your comedian Robin Williams sums up the difference between our governments quite nicely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bOuGGMC8Hg&feature=related
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#495300 - 03/13/09 12:38 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: dewbie]
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Stlhead,
I think hell might of frozen over.....we agree 100% on something. These deductions given to corps and the like are BS. They are all there because some POS pol got a big donation to his/her campagn and in return that pol works to get a line added to this or that bill and wow, they have 1000% return on the camp contribution.
They need to be done away with and a flat tax should be the law of the land. Everyone equal across the board. No fee loaders or POS getting off easy because they have money to fund some POS pol. Of coarse that will never happen and I am walking the yellow brick road even thinking about it. To many people making to much money. I mean how would we fund campagns without the ability to screw the american people. The whole political system could fail........What a great day for america that would be.
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#978104 - 06/29/17 10:10 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: docspud]
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#978340 - 07/11/17 12:18 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: RowVsWade]
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Originally Posted By: RowVsWade
House Speaker Issued Unprecedented Demands for Military Aircraft and Wasted Taxpayer Resources with Last Minute Cancellations

Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has obtained documents from the Department of Defense (DOD) detailing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's multiple requests for military air travel. The documents, obtained by Judicial Watch through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), include internal DOD email correspondence detailing attempts by DOD staff to accommodate Pelosi's numerous requests for military escorts and military aircraft as well as the speaker's last minute cancellations and changes. The following are a few highlights from the documents, which are linked in full below:
* In response to a series of requests for military aircraft, one Defense Department official wrote, "Any chance of politely querying [Pelosi's team] if they really intend to do all of these or are they just picking every weekend?...[T]here's no need to block every weekend 'just in case'..." The email also notes that Pelosi's office had, "a history of canceling many of their past requests."
* One DOD official complained about the "hidden costs" associated with the speaker's last minute changes and cancellations. "We have...folks prepping the jets and crews driving in (not a short drive for some), cooking meals and preflighting the jets etc."
* The documents include a discussion of House Ethics rules and Defense Department policies as they apply to the speaker's requests for staff, spouses and extended family to accompany her on military aircraft. In May 2008, for example, Pelosi requested that her husband join her on a Congressional Delegation (CODEL) into Iraq. The DOD explained to Pelosi that the agency has a written policy prohibiting spouses from joining CODEL's into combat zones.
* Documents obtained from the U.S. Army include correspondence from Speaker Pelosi's office requesting an Army escort and three military planes to transport Pelosi and other members of Congress to Cleveland, Ohio, for the funeral services of the late Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones. Pelosi noted in her letter of August 22, 2008, that such a request, labeled "Operation Tribute" was an "exception to standard policy."
* The documents also detail correspondence from intermediaries for Speaker Pelosi issuing demands for certain aircraft and expressing outrage when requested military planes were not available. "It is my understanding there are no G5s available for the House during the Memorial Day recess. This is totally unacceptable...The speaker will want to know where the planes are..." wrote Kay King, Director of the House Office of Interparliamentary Affairs. In a separate email, when told a certain type of aircraft would not be available, King writes, "This is not good news, and we will have some very disappointed folks, as well as a very upset [s]peaker."
* During another email exchange DOD staff advised Kay King that one Pelosi military aircraft request could not be met because of "crew rest requirements" and offered to help secure commercial travel. Kay King responded: "We appreciate the efforts to help the codel [sic] fly commercially but you know the problem that creates with spouses. If we can find another way to assist with military assets, we would like to do that."

Speaker Pelosi came under fire in 2007 for requesting a 42-seat Air Force carrier to ferry the Speaker and her staff back and forth between San Francisco, CA and Washington, DC. Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert was allowed access to a 12-seat commuter jet for security reasons after the events of 9/11.

"Taken together, these documents show that Speaker Pelosi treats the Air Force like her personal airline," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "Not only does Speaker Pelosi issue unreasonable requests for military travel, but her office seems unconcerned about wasting taxpayer money with last minute cancellations and other demands."


I think you should look at how much president chump is spending on his travels every weekend to each of his castles. Get over it buddy. There's no question she's an idiot but the biggest idiot is in charge. He makes her look sane. He's pissed away more money than any other president in the same time frame by a huge margin. You can't have it both ways Adolf.

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#978342 - 07/11/17 01:29 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: stlhead]
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#978343 - 07/11/17 01:36 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: stlhead]
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Salary spending doesn't include travel spending wink.

Having said that complaining about POTUS travel expenses is a simple red herring for partisan fools.
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#978344 - 07/11/17 01:38 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: stlhead]
5 * General Evo Offline
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im pretty sure that if Trump could use his own planes, he would... the problem is the Secret Service wont allow that to happen, they need a beefed up plane with bulletproof glass and missile defense systems, radars, ect...

its not Trumps fault....
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#978368 - 07/11/17 09:10 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: stlhead]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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The Trump ballwashing is as bad as the Obama ballwashing was.

Get a fuckin grip.
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#978506 - 07/17/17 03:02 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: 5 * General Evo]
gooybob Offline
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Loc: Tacoma
Originally Posted By: Evo
im pretty sure that if Trump could use his own planes, he would... the problem is the Secret Service wont allow that to happen, they need a beefed up plane with bulletproof glass and missile defense systems, radars, ect...

its not Trumps fault....


More pure bullsh!t. Look at the source of that article you fools. Trump has spent more money traveling to his (different) resorts every weekend than any other president in history in the same time frame. He has totally dropped the ball when it comes to filling the jobs that should have been filled immediately after he got into office. That's why Obama spent more money. Because he did the job that "president chump" has completely failed to do. That article is a true fake news spin. Keep trying boys but you can't make up the truth. But you can be dumb enough to buy into what Rich G calls alternative news sources. Trump relies on gullible ignorants to prop him up so he owes you thanks.

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#978555 - 07/19/17 06:05 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: gooybob]
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Don't worry gooybob even after all that smack you talk, I'm still your president.
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#978594 - 07/21/17 03:19 PM Re: GOP becoming a cartoon [Re: The Trumpster]
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Originally Posted By: The Trumpster
Don't worry gooybob even after all that smack you talk, I'm still your president.


Truth ain't smack and not for long. The sh!t keeps getting deeper and he can't keep from falling into it. When this thing blows up or gets close to blowing up he'll pull a Trump and quit to avoid prosecution. He can't even keep the idiots he's hired OR he hires them and then if they won't scam and cheat like him he fires them. You're on a losing team dude. The really scary part about all of this is those of us that have a brain saw this coming and those who don't are still sticking up for the piece of sh!t even now. Even after seeing him make a mockery of this country and of course himself. He's a FAIL!

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