Can someone please tell me how to get to the bark hole on the Sol Duc river? I know the area pretty well.
Thank You
tight lines

Take the Mora-La Push Rd toward Three Rivers Resort. Hang a right on the Goodman Mainline (3000 Rd)and it is the second or third turnout on the left. Usually where all the cars are parked.

Ever notice that Bob doesn't give directions right to the spots he's fishing? Even though the Bark hole is known, how about using personal e-mails to give directions instead of posting it for the world to read and go to.

Agree with Rich on this.

Sorry, I figured that the "bark Hole" was so widely know that it would be no surprise. I fish other spots on the Duc where I only see boats that come down. I prefer solitude, but when that is supossed to be the hot spot, I just wanted to know for sure where it was. By the way I am familiar with that exact spot. Thanx for the info. I do appreciate it.

No apology necessary, I, like many others are just tired of seeing a lot of water they fish get more & more crowded, I would like see people be a bit more discreet instead of just blantantly giving directions to every spot, familiar or worse yet, not familiar. My opinion is to share technique, gear, conservation and general river conditions. But not providing directions to spot "X" or bring attention to the stream your fishing by boasting to the world the numbers of fish caught. Keeping score is for those who are still trying to prove to others how great of a fisherman they are and think fishing is a sport of winners & losers. I'm off my soap box now.

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I agree with Rich. Technique, but don't tell people you don't know, exactly where you are fishing. Jeez. Tell your buddies or via email, maybe. Let people do the leg work, and investigate rivers. It makes it more worth while to have found a secluded spot yourself, then to fish a hatchery hole like situation, shoulder to shoulder with guys. You might catch fish, but I garantee you it won't be even half the fun.

I got into a conversation like this yesterday with a guy at work. He is the secretive type too. I don't understand this way of thinking but to each his own. Food for thought...didn't you have someone show you where to fish and what to use at one point or another? I also feel that a "poor" fisherman may fish a spot one day and do well, whereas a "good" fisherman can go to that same spot the next day, use the same thing and not touch a fish, or vice versa. The bottom line is, no matter how good of a fisherman you are you like to talk fishing too. There really aren't any secrets around here anymore anyway.
By the way, we all know the bark hole is "sight fishing" at its finest! Hit it hard!

Eric,
My sentiments exactly, if a guy really knows how to fish, there shouldn`t be a problem.

The internet is a powerful thing,
some of us .....ARGGHHHH


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Erik

I agree that nothing is secret any more. I am not against telling people where I fish exactly. I just don't agree with posting this information on a billboard for hundreds to see. You will have to agree that there are varied degrees of information distribution. I just don't agree with telling anyone who will listen, or read a post.(Do you have any idea, How many people look at this board?? Maybe Bob should have a counter, so you get an idea) I tell friends and people I meet fishing, but I don't have a sign on my bumper giving directions to where I fish. Maybe you like doing this, and fishing alongside the growing crowd, but I sure don't. Why do you think Bob, edited the message, when some joker posted the name of his zipperlip?
As for the Bark hole, I don't fish this river for salmon, I have other spots. I was agreeing with a post made.
But hey, if you feel so inclined to make a post, describing where you're fishing exactly, and what numbers you're catching, I think plenty will appreciate it.



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Erik, I guess some people enjoy fishing in crowds, however if you polled most fisherman, at least the ones who know better, If they found river or run that fished well with less people chances are they would prefer to keep it that way, the exception are the braggers. Some of the places I enjoy the most are places I learned based on hunches, hiking, floating and driving, a lot of work and time. You tell me, I am selfish or secretive for not "sharing" with all the other anglers on the internet I don't know from adam. Yes, I had uncles and others who showed me the way, but that's not the point, it's your uncle or long time fishing partner sharing one on one, not broadcasted over the WORLD WIDE WEB to the whole fishing community. There's too many fisherman anymore who want instant gratification without putting forth the effort to break the code themselves. I read Bob's board, because I find the topics interesting, but I cringe when I see someone bragging about a piece of water or directions to a paticular spot, even the ones I don't fish. In my opinion, I believe the free wheeling sharing of "where to" on the internet has played one part in the crowds we have seen in the last few years. Question, How many of you fished the peninsula before this board came around?

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Wow, a lot of ehtics here....uh, I just like to fish. By the way as far as leg work goes, I am sure that I have walked more than most. I've paid my dues. I just love to fish. Greg

Rich, really bud, you ought to go down and get yourself one of those Kings from the Bark Hole, they're so thick!
Anybody who says that they would rather fish in a crowd is a fool in my opinion too. I guess I agree about getting on this, or any other board and willfully broadcasting your "secrets" but I feel like if someone asks thats another thing, and usually I'll tell. I agree that it would be better to use email for much of this information too.
All this said, the fact still stands, if I told you that there are fish in the "ice box" hole and here's how I'm catching them, you have no advantage at all unless you already know that particular piece of water under all conditions. A river never sleeps!
p.s. I remember some great days over there before I even knew what the internet was.

Nothings worse than my Dad.. The forms of communication on earth- telephone, telagram or tell my dad. At a gas station on the way home " hey do you guys fish??" No?? well you should because we just nailed em using whatever at where ever we just went !!! you really ought to try it... tell your buddys

One of the reasons I fish is for the solitude. There is nothing compared to the feeling I get when I walk into a spot on a river and no one else is there. I will turn around and go to a different spot if that one is taken because I know what it feels like to get up early just to get to the spot and have the late crowd show up and crash the scene. That is why I started fishing the pennusula 18 years ago. I was reluctant to "kiss and tell" back then. And I am certainly the same now. I have always spent more time scouting than fishing. I believe that you must earn that knowledge. I had to.

Native, I do too and the more ethics surrounding our fishing, the better, good luck where ever you end up.

I agree Osprey---Too many "Cyber Fisherpeople". Get out there and explore. ----Now if you find that "sweet spot"--are you going to post it?? Doubtful

C'mon folks asking how to get to the bark hole is the equivalent of asking how to get to the cracker bar. A secret spot is a secret spot; to be shared by friends and a few others in the know. But, the bark hole is definitely not secret. Usually when the directions to a spot on the river includes, "where all the cars are parked," it's a well-known, popular spot. In this case, no harm done here.

This is true Hoh--but 5yrs ago it was not "where all the cars are parked, it's a well-known, popular spot." Thats what it has become.----

My problem is not with this post as the barkhole is far from a secret.
What I meant is it's taken many of us lots of years to find spots and learn technics over much trial and error ,the old saying pay you're dues doesn't hold water anymore,
With the internet ideas are exchanged and locations given
I'm not against this but I have a really BAD feeling that all it's going to do is create more competition with more educated fisherman the other saying that 10% catch 90% of the fish is changing also,
Don't get me wrong I'm all for people doing well in their pursuit of Salmon and Steelhead
we need to practice catch and release more and sometimes just keep our mouths shut!!
Competition is good for business but not for fish..just my .02
BTW just because we are more knowledgeable in our technics it doesn't mean that we'll catch more fish,I truly believe there is a special skill involved in detecting the suttle bite of a Steelhead...ever wonder how many you missed and never even felt

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Osprey,

What are your thoughts on the position that the more people that succeed while fishing, the more fisherman there are out there, the more people to fight the fight against the nets?

I feel the more we try to be exclusive, the fewer of us there are for this fight. Would you rather have more fisherman and more fish, or less of both?

Just curious, this was not written to start any disagreements or aurguments.

Steve

Steve, your point is very valid. We just have to hope that with more fish, spread out over a larger area that more "secret" spots will emerge. I wonder: with the good fishing we've had this fall along the I5 corridor, was the presure off the Forks area?

"Secret spots" change from season to season, and in many cases after an extreme highwater. For me, part of the joy derived from fishing this state's rivers and streams is rediscovering how to successfully angle these river stretches that have metamorphosed. As we know, the preferred holding water differs amonst the various salmonids. Thus, this season's springer spot may flatten out and become next summer's steelhead honey hole. Fifty percent of the game is, and will always be, correctly reading the water. The other half is composed of factors such as: friends (especially guide friends), observation (watch other successful anglers), and of course luck (every so often a boondoggled bait finds a new hidden slot!). I have yet to find a secret spot utilyzing directions I found surfing the internet.

After reading all this discussion about the bark hole I'm ready to jump in my truck and drive there right now. Only problem is I live a long way away, I have a job, I have a family, I have another commitments, I guess I'm like most other guys and just because I read about something doesn't mean that I'll be there the next day.

Is it humanly possible to beat Fishhead Fred to the Bark Hole?

TK

Right on Rich!lets hook up on monday's and fish spot x

No, you can not beat "FishHead" Fred to the bark hole. His friends call him Fred.

He will always be FISHHEAD to me after I saw a 25lb steehead in the bottom of his freezer incased in a large chunk of ice!!!! and his 16ft tackle box(Willie).

Steve J.The exchanging of ideas and technics are good, catching Salmon is one thing consitantly hooking and landing Steelhead is not quite the same,Locations on the hand are hard to come by there are no secret spots any more ...well at least not very many and as Howaiian said the rivers are changing every season ,but if you want to give up a great location and new tech...good for you ,I won't stand in judgement of anyone,but that doesn't mean I gonna give up much I'm kinda like a old hook nose Silver....you gotta earn it
the only way we as fisherman can effectivley make change to stand together to we are not going to make nets go away by hold a ***** fest ,only united can we be heard

FishHead Fred it MINT! My husband and some of his friends had been camped out on the Allen Bar a few years ago and left their tent pegs behind. Well, the following summer on another fishing/camping trip we ran into Fred and he handed us our tent pegs. That guy's a player!