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#983748 - 01/17/18 12:00 PM Re: Op rivers [Re: lostboy]
Carcassman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7410
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Better sources of nutrients. Possibiities are the base geology, spawning salmon, or lots of sewage inputs. All have been shown to work. Higher productivity gives you bigger fish populations, to a point.

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#983753 - 01/17/18 02:35 PM Re: Op rivers [Re: Carcassman]
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Loc: Adna
I can remember that when I worked with Harry, He always said that some of the most productive streams had dairy farms nearby. He explained to me as best he could that the leaching effectthrough the soil not only enhanced the nutrient base of the stream banks but also the river as well.

Harry is resting no more than 900 meter to the east of me in Claquato.
Last time we visited last fall, I told him about how the Twin Harbors Advocacy is coming along with their efforts.

I swear sometimes that as the wind rustles the conifers I hear an old familiar voice. Near as I can tell it's calling out something that sounds like ... Daaa - Veeed Hamil - toooon !
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#983771 - 01/17/18 09:06 PM Re: Op rivers [Re: lostboy]
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River Nutrients

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Kinda simple concept. Increase productivity, increase production. Took a long time to learn that.

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#983780 - 01/18/18 07:11 AM Re: Op rivers [Re: Carcassman]
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Ah BB you know I truly miss that man. He would always greet me with that long drawn out of ones name. Always followed a genuine look of pleasure to see you again. Wealth of knowledge and always willing to share and teach at the same time. Qualities that are in short supply now a days.
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#983781 - 01/18/18 07:31 AM Re: Op rivers [Re: lostboy]
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River Nutrients

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Posts: 7410
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Mentors......

Harry had retired before I got involved in hatcheries. So, I have to learn from others..

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#983818 - 01/19/18 09:54 AM Re: Op rivers [Re: lostboy]
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All you need to know about hatcheries these days is how to turn off the main breaker and shut the door.

Sad.

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#983847 - 01/19/18 06:15 PM Re: Op rivers [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
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Registered: 12/06/07
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Uh Uh. All the Steelhead hatchery employee needs to know is open the valve to release every last one raised to the system that's ready to not go into some lake somewhere. Oops? "Did I do that"?
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#983851 - 01/19/18 07:26 PM Re: Op rivers [Re: BARCHASER]
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Originally Posted By: BARCHASER

It always seemed to me that the OR north coast rivers produced better than any of the Puget Sound rivers but I never knew why. Their rivers do seem richer, more plant growth, more insect evidence etc.



Plant growth might be important BUT THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE is NO NETS !!!
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#983852 - 01/19/18 07:31 PM Re: Op rivers [Re: lostboy]
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If no nets hammering the steelhead was the cause then the Willpa would be full of steelhead, as would the streams on Vancouver Island.

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#983855 - 01/19/18 07:59 PM Re: Op rivers [Re: Carcassman]
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Registered: 04/15/11
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If you spend just a few days watching the tribes net on any Olympic peninsula stream in Feb, march or April when the wild fish are really running strong and there are no hatchery fish, And see the fish being taken and don't think the nets are hurting wild steelhead, You are fooling yourself.

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#983859 - 01/19/18 08:20 PM Re: Op rivers [Re: lostboy]
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And there is nobody netting WB in those months. That mean the steelhead are doing wonderfully there?

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