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#983925 - 01/21/18 09:52 AM Question for RICH G
ondarvr Offline
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Registered: 09/07/05
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Rich, you have many more info sources than the normal citizen, so I'll ask you about this.

I was filling the tank on my rental car before getting on a plane to return home from San Diego this week and overheard this conversation.

An older gentleman that appeared to work for a utility company (lift truck) was doing his best Cliff Calvin impersonation in explaining what really happened in the Hawaii missle alert mishap to a co-worker.

According to him there was a missle fired, but it was shot down by an Israeli sub that was on patrol in the area.

This was a proven "fact" because the missle alert also supposedly appeared on the TV screen during a basketball game that wasn't connected to the official warning alert network. Meaning the alert was not an accident, it was the real thing.

He said there is now a huge conspiracy to cover up the truth of what really happened.

So what do your sources say?

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#983949 - 01/21/18 07:00 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
Dan S. Offline
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I heard there was more than one shooter.
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#983950 - 01/21/18 07:38 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
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Israel only has 6 submarines...not even sure they have that capability.

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#983956 - 01/21/18 09:44 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
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This one is easy. There are exactly ZERO anti-missile defense systems for any sub on the planet. Subs are for attacking, not defense. We can launch ballistic missiles from subs, sure, easy enough....but nothing exists that can then intercept an already launched missile. Hitting a missile in the air with another missle is about the hardest thing possible that any military can do. We, the USA, can barely do it with land based THAAD.

And don't come back with any bullchit that there is some grand system out there that we just don't know about Rich.

Myth busted.

Next.
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#983958 - 01/21/18 10:00 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
RICH G
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I'm not sure about this whole thing, but I did read or watch somewhere that there was an identical alert at the same time some region in Japan.

I think the Russian anti aircraft systems can target and hit some missiles.

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#983959 - 01/21/18 10:20 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
ondarvr Offline
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I actually tried to research where the guy got the info, but there was nothing I could find online. I just wanted to see who was putting the theory out there, to this guy it was fact though.

There was an alert in Japan right after the one in Hawaii, it was retracted right away and wasn't an official alert.

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#983961 - 01/21/18 11:38 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ]
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Edit


Edited by NickD90 (01/21/18 11:47 PM)
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#983964 - 01/22/18 04:01 AM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: NickD90]
ondarvr Offline
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Originally Posted By: NickD90
This one is easy. There are exactly ZERO anti-missile defense systems for any sub on the planet. Subs are for attacking, not defense. We can launch ballistic missiles from subs, sure, easy enough....but nothing exists that can then intercept an already launched missile. Hitting a missile in the air with another missle is about the hardest thing possible that any military can do. We, the USA, can barely do it with land based THAAD.

And don't come back with any bullchit that there is some grand system out there that we just don't know about Rich.

Myth busted.

Next.


Why should facts get in the way.

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#984010 - 01/23/18 12:57 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ]
The Moderator Offline
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Originally Posted By: RICH G
I think the Russian Buk Missile anti aircraft systems can target and hit some civilian commercial airliners (MH17).


Fixed that for you.


That's kinda like the high school bully picking on the slow fat disabled kid.

I'd think a fair assessment would be to find, target and shoot down a B2 Spirit or F22 Raptor.

When that happens, that might impress me with Russia's anti-aircraft abilities.

To liven things up a bit, the B2 should be armed with a nuke, dropped at an undisclosed location in Russia if they fail. Same with the F22, except maybe just a really smart 2,000lb. bomb.
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#984011 - 01/23/18 01:57 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
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wouldnt be impossible....

the Yugoslavians shot down an F 117 in 1999 with a Russian/Soviet S-125 Neva system... which is faster, more agile, and has roughly the same ceiling as the B2S....

so its definitely possible...

the Raptor tho, little tougher, but that same system shot down an F16 the same year, so i guess its still possible...

but, knowing the US, they would send in F35s and the pilots would pass out from lack of oxygen....
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#984080 - 01/24/18 12:20 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
The Moderator Offline
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Maybe.

Possibly outdated, but a good read any ways.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/could-russia-really-shoot-down-f-22-f-35-or-b-2-stealth-17986

“Just because something is technically possible doesn't make it tactically feasible,”

And why would you compare an F-16 to an F-22?

O'Grady's F-16 was a sitting duck. He never knew he was totally locked on and skull fvcked until it was too late. Pretty sure an F-15 would have just hit full afterburner and shot straight up to the moon to avoid the missile. smile They are like a flying tennis courts propelled by two massive rockets/engines.

Actually, so was the F-117. It was more of a "oops. Guess we didn't think anyone would use outdated low-frequency radars these days."

Unless Russia is firing a magical stealth surface to air missile at an F-22, my money is on the Raptor detecting and evading the missile and continuing on with its mission.....

Not overly positive about the B2 though.......

No comment on the F-35's. Oh sure, so their are few minor bugs. Those will get worked out......when the next generation of fighter will be proposed to replace them.
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#984172 - 01/25/18 01:13 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
ondarvr Offline
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So how does yesterday's false alert about a plane crash on a highway near Portland fit into this?

Russian sub in the Columbia shooting down military aircraft and then the US Gov covering it up....

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#984185 - 01/25/18 03:02 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
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Originally Posted By: ondarvr
So how does yesterday's false alert about a plane crash on a highway fit into this?

Russian sub in the Columbia shooting down military aircraft and then the US Gov covering it up....


Sounds perfectly believable compared to trans-dimensional gnomes.

Rich could be right, though. People who actually do math and physics and such confirmed the existence of a 4th dimension recently. Could be where all the gnomes are hiding - except me and Gnomesayin' , of course.

I learned a long time ago not to argue with math and physics. If math says there are 13 dimensions, then there are. And maybe one of those 13 dimensions is the gnome dimension, and the other is the bigfoot dimension. I give Rich a lot of trouble for his Trump love, but he could be right about bigfeet, gnomes, and interdimensional travel. I guess we'll just have to wait.
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#984236 - 01/26/18 12:45 AM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: Dan S.]
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Drop the crack pipe Shelton. grin
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#984237 - 01/26/18 06:13 AM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
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Or read a book.

The latest, most accepted, “theory of everything” is string theory. Which only equates or works mathematically in a 13 dimension universe.

The work being done at LIGO at Hanford is attempting to prove this theory. Scientists have always wondered why, of the four forces, gravity is so much weaker than the other three. They are trying to prove that gravity waves exist across the multiverse while the other three are contained within our universe.

Think of us as a fish in a pond. No real way for us to prove anything exists outside of that pond unless we can show that waves we observe are created by some force outside of the pond. Of course in this scenario frogs could be trans dimensional gnomes.

Rich may be wrong on a lot of things but at least he has the balls to challange the group think path we are all being led down.

p.s. We already live in a four dimensional universe with time being the fourth.
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#984243 - 01/26/18 07:57 AM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Hi,

Time isn't a fourth dimension of space. Time is a numerical order and isn't considered a "dimension" in the physical sense.

Einstein said "time has no independent existence aside from the order of events by which we measure it."

And what path are we being led down? The one that thinks claims should be backed up with evidence? lol So brave.
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#984290 - 01/26/18 05:38 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: ondarvr]
NickD90 Offline
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Schrödinger's cat has already been proven and we've "teleported" the same single light particle to be in two different places at the same time. I.e. We've already gone transdimensional here on Earth. Get REAL high and think about that for a moment.

So far, quantum physics has been unable to send Gnomes beaming around the Universe to and fro, but give it time. Maybe Gnomes are from the future and they've already perfected interdimensional travel? Maybe Rich isn't completely nuttier than a squirrel turd? Maybe we could be wrong and Rich could be right! Get REAL high and think about that for a moment.


Edited by NickD90 (01/26/18 05:45 PM)
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#984292 - 01/26/18 05:41 PM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: BroodBuster]
NickD90 Offline
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Originally Posted By: BroodBuster
Or read a book.


WTF is this "book" you speak of? You expect us to work for our "intelligence"? NO SIR - I WILL NOT! If it isn't easily pumped into my head via the boob tube, then it ain't gonna happen. wink
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#984311 - 01/27/18 06:30 AM Re: Question for RICH G [Re: NickD90]
erikj Offline
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Registered: 01/06/07
Posts: 660
Wow. I need to pass by more often. Anyone have a dime bag, to help catch up? grin

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