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#985030 - 02/06/18 10:27 AM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
the_chemist Offline
Parr

Registered: 08/18/16
Posts: 44
In most situations I'd try to give people the benefit of the doubt but it was only 2 years ago that their fish and wildlife director was arrested for operating the largest seafood poaching operation in Washington state history.

http://www.kiro7.com/news/tulalip-tribe-fish-and-wildlife-director-arrested-/28782032

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#985033 - 02/06/18 11:39 AM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
JustBecause Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 07/18/08
Posts: 237
I'm amazed that these guys wouldn't want y'all in the meetings with them....

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#985035 - 02/06/18 12:07 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: ]
stonefish Online   content
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Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5202
Loc: Carkeek Park
Originally Posted By: stam
You're preaching to the choir here, this is all c-attle sees when this kind of stuff comes up.



Those Italians can cry with the best of them, regardless of their costume.......
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#985036 - 02/06/18 12:32 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Smalma]
Gusty Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 04/27/99
Posts: 372
Loc: Everett, WA. USA
Originally Posted By: Smalma
Any steelhead fishery at that time of year whether in the bay or the river can only be consider to be targeting wild steelhead.

Curt



Aren’t those wild steelhead ESA listed fish?

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#985038 - 02/06/18 12:39 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
wsu Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 422
Where do you find this published online?

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#985039 - 02/06/18 12:52 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I haven't been able to find this in any of the published regulations...where did you find it Krijack?

Thanks!

Fish on...

Todd
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#985042 - 02/06/18 01:32 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: ]
Bay wolf Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 10/26/12
Posts: 1075
Loc: Graham, WA
Originally Posted By: stam
You're preaching to the choir here, this is all c-attle sees when this kind of stuff comes up.



As fake as the ruse of Champions of conservation!

Perhaps he's shedding a tear because the recs still get to fish at all!

"Hell yes we believe in conservation, we just think it is better served in secret!"

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#985043 - 02/06/18 01:36 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
Waterboy Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 07/25/06
Posts: 471
I use to be on a email list from the address TreatyFishRegs@dfw.wa.gov in which I received all the notices/openings posted for tribal fishing...crab, salmon, warm water, squid, etc. I stopped receiving them in March of last year for some reason???

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#985044 - 02/06/18 02:01 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: stonefish]
fishbadger Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/06/01
Posts: 1194
Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
Originally Posted By: stonefish
Originally Posted By: stam
You're preaching to the choir here, this is all c-attle sees when this kind of stuff comes up.



Those Italians can cry with the best of them, regardless of their costume.......
SF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Eyes_Cody


grin

First the eye-talians, next is gonna be ze Germans. . .I don't like where this is going one bit,

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#985045 - 02/06/18 02:05 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
Sky-Guy Offline
The Tide changed

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7232
Loc: Everett
FYI-

Good morning Ryley,

Staff is looking in to this and will provide you a response. I just wanted to give you a heads up we received your email and will respond.

Thanks,

Ryan

From: FEE, RYLEY

Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 4:22 AM
To: Warren, Ron R (DFW) <Ron.Warren@dfw.wa.gov>; Lothrop, Ryan L (DFW) <Ryan.Lothrop@dfw.wa.gov>
Cc: staff@tidalexchange.com
Subject: FW: TUL 2017-214-104 (Steelhead 8A1,8A2,8A3,8A4, 8D)

Ryan,
Ron,

How can we challenge the justification of this fishery? We all know there are no harvestable hatchery steelhead in the lower reaches on the Snohomish system at this time of year, and this is a opener under the frivolous guise of targeting hatchery steelhead is in actuality targeting ESA listed Wild Steelhead which are present in these areas at this time of year.

As far as I can recall, the Tulalips have not fished for Steelhead in this area, at this time of year, for a very long time.
I would ask you for a list of options about how the Department can challenge the justification for this fishery and stop it if possible.

Thanks,
Ryley




From: Treaty Fish Regs (DFW) [mailto:TreatyFishRegs@dfw.wa.gov]
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#985046 - 02/06/18 02:25 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Sky-Guy]
the_chemist Offline
Parr

Registered: 08/18/16
Posts: 44
Thanks for looking into it Sky-guy.

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#985050 - 02/06/18 06:56 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: the_chemist]
MPM Offline
Spawner

Registered: 12/09/08
Posts: 766
Loc: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted By: the_chemist
Thanks for looking into it Sky-guy.


Seconded!

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#985051 - 02/06/18 07:10 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
cobble cruiser Offline
~B-F-D~

Registered: 03/27/09
Posts: 2256
Im fricken irate!!!!!!!! This has to stop WDFW!!!! Fair is fair and corruption is obvious in this case. This better be stopped!!!


Edited by cobble cruiser (02/06/18 07:11 PM)
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#985052 - 02/06/18 07:13 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
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~B-F-D~

Registered: 03/27/09
Posts: 2256
WDFW has lost all credibility and why should we put any stock in them? Seriously.... if they cant stop this, they are worthless!!!
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#985053 - 02/06/18 08:11 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: cobble cruiser]
Bay wolf Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 10/26/12
Posts: 1075
Loc: Graham, WA
Originally Posted By: cobble cruiser
WDFW has lost all credibility and why should we put any stock in them? Seriously.... if they cant stop this, they are worthless!!!


The Commission should be asked for an explanation on this as well.

Once again, Mr. Ron Warren has a hand in something that on the surface anyway, seems very wrong!

Vent your outrage where it might do some good. Send a message to the Commission and hold them accountable.

Use this link and get that message sent.

Contact the Commission

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#985054 - 02/06/18 08:33 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
Great Bender Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 01/03/17
Posts: 155
Loc: Hood Canal
This kind of crap is going to continue as long as words take the place of action. Get up out of your chairs, go to your keyboards en masse...and tell the Commission what's taking place.

You've made contact with the same Fisheries Managers who have fubared the Co-Management situation for more than a decade, including the formulation of the recent controversial Ten Year Puget Sound Management Plan. You received a "we will look into it" response? Look at their track record!!

Go to the top: call out the Commission!!

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#985055 - 02/06/18 09:20 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: wsu]
BGR Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 02/21/06
Posts: 306
Loc: Marysville, WA
Originally Posted By: wsu
Where do you find this published online?

I googled "REGULATION NO: 2017-214-104". The first result was this thread. The second was titled "Blood Pressure Numbers: When to Get Help | Cigna". Coincidence?
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#985059 - 02/06/18 10:09 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Bay wolf]
the_chemist Offline
Parr

Registered: 08/18/16
Posts: 44
Originally Posted By: Bay wolf
Originally Posted By: cobble cruiser
WDFW has lost all credibility and why should we put any stock in them? Seriously.... if they cant stop this, they are worthless!!!


The Commission should be asked for an explanation on this as well.

Once again, Mr. Ron Warren has a hand in something that on the surface anyway, seems very wrong!

Vent your outrage where it might do some good. Send a message to the Commission and hold them accountable.

Use this link and get that message sent.

Contact the Commission


Message sent.

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#985060 - 02/07/18 12:15 AM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Todd]
LocalTalent Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 06/30/14
Posts: 137
Originally Posted By: Todd
I would love to hear what the State and Feds have to say about it.

Probably d1ck. I'd like to hear what the Stillaguamish Tribe has to say about it.

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#985062 - 02/07/18 06:17 AM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Sky-Guy]
RUNnGUN Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 1382
Originally Posted By: Sky-Guy
FYI-

Good morning Ryley,

Staff is looking in to this and will provide you a response. I just wanted to give you a heads up we received your email and will respond.

Thanks,

Ryan

From: FEE, RYLEY

Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 4:22 AM
To: Warren, Ron R (DFW) <Ron.Warren@dfw.wa.gov>; Lothrop, Ryan L (DFW) <Ryan.Lothrop@dfw.wa.gov>
Cc: staff@tidalexchange.com
Subject: FW: TUL 2017-214-104 (Steelhead 8A1,8A2,8A3,8A4, 8D)

Ryan,
Ron,

How can we challenge the justification of this fishery? We all know there are no harvestable hatchery steelhead in the lower reaches on the Snohomish system at this time of year, and this is a opener under the frivolous guise of targeting hatchery steelhead is in actuality targeting ESA listed Wild Steelhead which are present in these areas at this time of year.

As far as I can recall, the Tulalips have not fished for Steelhead in this area, at this time of year, for a very long time.
I would ask you for a list of options about how the Department can challenge the justification for this fishery and stop it if possible.

Thanks,
Ryley




From: Treaty Fish Regs (DFW) [mailto:TreatyFishRegs@dfw.wa.gov]





I'll tell you how you stop it! You grow a pair and blow it up with a floatilla of enforcement boats arresting every gillnet boat that deploys. Have every major news crew on board the enforcement boats reporting on how the Tribe is illigally fishing on ESA listed fish! That will catch the eye of the C-attleites. Back in the day during the number quota years Gamies used to "Enforce" the number rule when quotas were met, by physically pulling nets and having confrontations! History can repeat itself!


Edited by RUNnGUN (02/07/18 06:18 AM)
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