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#984973 - 02/05/18 12:37 PM Any idea what run this is targeting?
Krijack Offline
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Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 1531
Loc: Tacoma
Does anyone have an idea which "hatchery run" the tribe is targeting?



TULALIP TRIBES REGULATION NO: 2017-214-104 (Steelhead 8A1,8A2,8A3,8A4, 8D) DATE ADOPTED: 02/05/2018 EFFECTIVE DATES: February 06, 2018 through March 30th, 2018 FISHERY TYPE: Commercial SUPERSEDES/MODIFIES REGULATION NO: None

Area: 8A1,8A2,8A3,8A4, 8D Species: Steelhead --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Treaty Steelhead opening in area 8A1, 8A2, 8A3, 8A4. 8D to target harvestable hatchery steelhead --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gillnet (5 inch min. mesh) Skiff Gillnet (5 inch min. mesh) Setnet (5 inch min. mesh) Beach Seine; Roundhaul

SCHEDULE: During the period 02/06/2018 - 03/30/2018:

OPEN MONDAY through FRIDAY, OPEN daily at 7:00 AM and CLOSE daily at 5:00 PM

Area restriction: Fishing is closed to all gear in that portion of Area 8A in Port Susan north of a line extended west from Kayak Point to the tower on Camano Island. The upstream boundary of Area 8A3 in the Snohomish River is the I-5 bridge

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#984977 - 02/05/18 01:18 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
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River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7413
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Hatchery kelts??

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#984978 - 02/05/18 01:32 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
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Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5205
Loc: Carkeek Park
No idea.
Tulalip Bubble Steelhead?
SF
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#984980 - 02/05/18 01:43 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
_WW_ Offline
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Registered: 01/30/13
Posts: 233
Loc: Skagit
Stilly?
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#984981 - 02/05/18 01:50 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
the_chemist Offline
Parr

Registered: 08/18/16
Posts: 44
That's pretty late for chambers creek fish.

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#984983 - 02/05/18 01:56 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
Keta Offline
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Registered: 03/05/00
Posts: 1092
Anyone know where to see a map of the areas listed?

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#984984 - 02/05/18 02:00 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Keta]
the_chemist Offline
Parr

Registered: 08/18/16
Posts: 44
Here Page 17. with descriptions of A,B,C on the following pages.

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#984986 - 02/05/18 02:10 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
Keta Offline
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Registered: 03/05/00
Posts: 1092
Thanks!

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#984988 - 02/05/18 02:54 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4533
Loc: B'ham
Maybe I’m missing something but this seems absolutely disgusting.

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#984989 - 02/05/18 03:07 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
the_chemist Offline
Parr

Registered: 08/18/16
Posts: 44
Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
Maybe I’m missing something but this seems absolutely disgusting.


Gonna have to agree. February to March at the mouth of the Snohomish river. Some Chambers kelts going out but a lot more wild fish coming in...

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#984994 - 02/05/18 03:21 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
There will be approximately zero hatchery fish harvested in this fishery. I would love to hear what the State and Feds have to say about it.

Fish on...

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#984997 - 02/05/18 04:01 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
Smalma Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/25/01
Posts: 2844
Loc: Marysville
Any steelhead fishery at that time of year whether in the bay or the river can only be consider to be targeting wild steelhead.

Curt

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#984998 - 02/05/18 04:11 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
the_chemist Offline
Parr

Registered: 08/18/16
Posts: 44
Krijack, Can we get the link to where you found this?

Thanks

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#984999 - 02/05/18 04:17 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
the_chemist Offline
Parr

Registered: 08/18/16
Posts: 44
On a related noted, anybody know what year the spring catch and release fishery on the Snohomish system shut down?


Edited by the_chemist (02/05/18 04:17 PM)

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#985003 - 02/05/18 08:20 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: the_chemist]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: the_chemist
On a related noted, anybody know what year the spring catch and release fishery on the Snohomish system shut down?


2000, I believe.

Fish on...

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#985009 - 02/05/18 09:25 PM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
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River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7413
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
If WDFW had huevos they could/should directly challenge it. It's what they used to do, before Co-management. Now they "negotiate".

Need to remember back a few years ago when the State and Feds approved a Baker sockeye fishery in late May. I mention this as there is decades of trap data as to when the sockeye actually arrive.

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#985015 - 02/06/18 01:02 AM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
OceanSun Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1303
Loc: North Creek
There go the last of the awesome Pilchuck wild fish that the backyard poachers didn't get! I get that they are a sovereign nation but SO ARE WE! Who's going to stand up for OUR fish! Stewards of the land my ass! Sometimes the tribes advocate for fish-positive policy but in this case it's blatant [Bleeeeep!]!
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#985016 - 02/06/18 07:13 AM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
Steeldrifter Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 02/23/08
Posts: 176
Loc: Pierce county
Unbelievable........How can this even be considered by the stewards of the environment? This is wrong, we either protect wild steelhead by all user groups or its a hopeless cause.

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#985018 - 02/06/18 07:57 AM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
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Registered: 03/27/09
Posts: 2256
Now that its clear and obvious they have no one to answer to and they can get away with whatever they feel like, it's time to really start taking advantage. Unbelievable that they can blatantly get away with fishing over a depressed and threatened stock that's been closed to everybody to try and repair it. Guess they're above everybody else though. How discriminating and unequal does Washington want to take this?!!! This is a new low!

Where are you now WFC? What, no money in it? Corruption sucks!!!!


Edited by cobble cruiser (02/06/18 08:10 AM)
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#985020 - 02/06/18 08:20 AM Re: Any idea what run this is targeting? [Re: Krijack]
Great Bender Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 01/03/17
Posts: 155
Loc: Hood Canal
Just a week after the WDFW Director moves on, and the Commissioners reject a proposed NOF rule change based on the guidance of a WA State AAG, a Tribal entity unilaterally declares a "season" on another threatened fishery...certainly a coincidence, don't you think? Those who are unfamiliar with precedence and history are certainly doomed to repeat it.

Take this to the Commission and go over their desk tops with it. Ask all the questions you're rightfully entitled answers to. Be sure to inquire how they could depend on a legal strategy supposedly built around resource protection that has been a miserable failure for more than a decade. Remind them that their overall mission is to preserve and protect a Recreational fishermens' opportunity as well as conserving our fish.

Wrap things up with a resolving demand that they collectively seek a different direction in regard to their legal counsel...one that the stakeholders can embrace and support...

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