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#989111 - 05/14/18 09:27 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
After 2 1/2 days of hauling ass and up the Canal...FMcFF is now on day five of being stuck right at the bridge, moving back and forth nonstop and unable to find a way thru.

As the caption on his current status says: "Stuck on the south side of the bridge. Morale low".

Stats say that 65% of Hood Canal steelhead don't make it past the bridge, that's a brutal bottleneck.

At least he's still alive...40% of the original starting fish are already dead.

Sergeant Snackbar and a couple of others have crushed it, they are past the last array at the entrance to the Straits and are in the ocean!

Fish on...

Todd
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#989112 - 05/14/18 10:34 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7232
Loc: Everett
Whoah! Boom went from narrows bridge to off marrowstone island over the two day weekend, that's cooking! I think he has a real shot at the ocean now....
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#989113 - 05/14/18 12:06 PM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 14486
Loc: Tuleville
Dawg Paddle is cruising right along and just stopped by Whidbey Island to say hi to Rico.

He's not going to win the race, but I'd love to see him make it to the ocean.

Swim Dawg Padde, swim!
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#989121 - 05/14/18 01:09 PM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
MPM Offline
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Registered: 12/09/08
Posts: 766
Loc: Seattle, WA
Eddy Gar shot up Colvos Passage and past Elliott Bay. Making progress!

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#989162 - 05/15/18 07:59 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 389
Loc: Tri-Cities, WA
Team PP is in 9th.

Swedish is stuck at the bridge.

"Almost past the hard part!"

The pontoons carrying the Hood Canal Bridge extend 15ft underwater and span 83% of the canal. Steelhead generally migrate near the water's surface, away from the shore. Research has shown that juvenile steelhead often swim back and forth near the pontoons once they reach the bridge, a sign that the pontoons may be obstructing migration. Predators may learn this and hunt at the bridge for an easy meal, which could explain why so many steelhead appear to be dying there.

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#989163 - 05/15/18 08:12 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Damnitall. Fishy McFishFace died swimming back and forth at Hood Canal Bridge. Six days of being stuck without able to get by makes a fish a pretty easy target there, apparently.

RIP, buddy.

Fish on...

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#989175 - 05/15/18 11:57 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Dawg Paddle is in 12th place now, just off of Marrowstone Island as well. Don't think he's got the speed to make a Top 10 finish.
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#989194 - 05/15/18 05:00 PM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3314
Sounds like more fish are making it this year. Cool!

I did this last year, and my smolt's journey looked a lot like this year's Fishy McFishFace run. Back and forth at the bridge multiple times, culminating in more seal scat.

It seems clear that the bridge has a significant impact. What Swifty27 said, plus, the back sides of the pontoons probably make for great ambush spots when smolts finally get up the courage to run around the bridge. Let's tear that thing down and start a new ferry route!

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#989207 - 05/15/18 08:34 PM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 7260
Loc: Snohomish, WA
Dumb questions: Does it have to be a floating bridge with pontoons? Too deep or rough for pilings? The HC expanse isn't that wide at all. China just built a 60 mile bridge for cryin' out loud. Why can't we tear it down like we did the Elwha dam?
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#989223 - 05/16/18 07:26 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 389
Loc: Tri-Cities, WA
Woo hoo! Swedish is past the floating bridge! I'm really surprised how long he stayed there without getting eaten.

Pretty deep at the HC bridge (depth in fathoms). 300ft should be doable though. I'm sure a non-floating bridge could be built. I wonder if a channelized floating bridge would work. If the floats alternated depth, there would be multiple shallow channels along the length of the bridge.



Narrows for comparison.

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#989225 - 05/16/18 07:55 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I think they should retrofit the bridge with channels and tunnels thru it to let the fish pass...15 to 18 feet is too deep for steelhead smolts, they are surface migrators...unless there is a way to direct them to the high rises so they can swim thru there.

Any fixes like these, though, just seem like making great ambush points for predators, too.

Fish on...

Todd
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#989233 - 05/16/18 08:50 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/06/01
Posts: 1194
Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
Five of our fish (out of 11 total) are still alive. One made it all the way, one is near the finish line in PA, one is ready to get chomped at that damn bridge, and two are still swimming laps in the river. Low "n" but it does seem that maybe a couple extra are making it through vs. last year.

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#989235 - 05/16/18 09:01 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
The Moderator Offline
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Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 14486
Loc: Tuleville
RIP Dawg Paddle.

Made it to end of Whidbey and the opening of the Straights.

Close....but not close enough.

D'oh!
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#989274 - 05/16/18 05:16 PM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Only three of Team PP left now. Puget Sound is tough on smolts these days!

Fish on...

Todd
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#989489 - 05/19/18 01:13 PM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12766
HORRIBLE stats... glad I'm NOT one of them smolts!
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#989661 - 05/23/18 03:25 PM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
Larry B Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 3020
Loc: University Place and Whidbey I...
The Gov's Orca Recovery group's Prey working committee meets next Tuesday in Oly. I wonder how they will find a way to ignore the adverse impact of pinnipeds on final return of Orca food (AKA Chinook).....

Some possibilities:

1. Totally ignore reality
2. Rationalize that they, too, have to eat
3. Pour more money into production and hope to outproduce a corresponding growth in pinniped numbers

Others??
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#989686 - 05/24/18 08:27 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13521
I anticipate that they will choose to view the situation through rose colored glasses, where mutually exclusive outcomes are possible.

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#989694 - 05/24/18 11:04 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: Salmo g.]
Larry B Offline
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Registered: 10/22/09
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Loc: University Place and Whidbey I...
Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
I anticipate that they will choose to view the situation through rose colored glasses, where mutually exclusive outcomes are possible.


Yes, the rose colored glasses syndrome. Seems there is an epidemic of that these days.
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#990002 - 06/04/18 08:34 AM Re: Survive the Sound: Team PP [Re: eyeFISH]
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Registered: 11/24/03
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Originally Posted By: eyeFISH
HORRIBLE stats... glad I'm NOT one of them smolts!


Our neighbors to the north aren't faring much better...

https://chromersportfishing.com/2018/01/30/bc-fish-farms-sea-lice-killing-wild-salmon/
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