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#995684 - 11/01/18 01:51 PM US Armed Forces Dumping the 5.56
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Rumor has it that the US will be bringing the 6.8 mm/ SPC into service as our new preferred ammunition for the armed force’s M4 Rifles.

No more 223/556 ! thumbs
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Hmmm

- "Wild steelhead were more numerous this year than they were in the 1970s" ( ITYOOL - 2015 )

- "It's past the time to "play nice", after all, they are pooching us royally."

D'uh!

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#995707 - 11/01/18 04:48 PM Re: US Armed Forces Dumping the 5.56 [Re: Myassisdragon]
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Originally Posted By: Myassisdragon
Rumor has it that the US will be bringing the 6.8 mm/ SPC into service as our new preferred ammunition for the armed force’s M4 Rifles.

No more 223/556 ! thumbs


If true, the Grendel People will go suicidal.

I think it's actually that new caseless ammo and not 6.8 SPC, though.
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#995773 - 11/02/18 01:58 PM Re: US Armed Forces Dumping the 5.56 [Re: Direct-Drive]
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I have not fooled with the Grendel, yet. It just wasn't a viable option back when I decided to what caliber to use for my AR projects. Shortage and expense of the raw brass was the deal breaker for me and the reason I went with the 6.8 SPC. I'll admit, the 6.8 is not a real great long range cartridge. Say 400 meters plus. However, for the purposes I have, home and yard defense, it works out really well.

A 110 gr. Hornady V-MAX @ 2650 fps will knock the socks off a 5.56 round all day long. Want proof ? Shoot a 5.56 at a hanging steel plate 8 inches in diameter at 200 meters. Pay close attention to how loud the smack of the bullet is on the plate. Also, how much dancing around the plate does when hit.

Now shoot the same plate with a 6.8 SPC. It will be very different in both sound of the smack and the movement of the plate. Those 100 gr. V-MAX's are real bad ass. Tear your freakin' arm off at best on a less than center mass shot.

Load a 95 gr Barnes TTSX @ 2825 fps and you have yourself a handy little 200 meter deer rifle.

So, ammo is more expensive than 5.56 but has more knockdown performance. Knockdown being the key word here and a factor to be considered.

Get off my lawn.

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#995793 - 11/02/18 03:08 PM Re: US Armed Forces Dumping the 5.56 [Re: Myassisdragon]
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Having both the 6.8mm /spc, and the 6.5 Grendel and being fortunate to have taken a few deer with both, either one is a great little deer cartridge when used with common sense and knowing limitations of range and game taken with either one.

I slightly prefer one over the other but not for either one’s game taking limitations although, anecdotal evidence for us seems to show one has a bit better bang flop one shot knockdown capability at similar ranges used. The same cartridge comparison also has one round that sounds off better on steel plates, with a bit more lift and wangle on the plates at ranges from 50 thru 400 yards, our semi-self imposed game taking limits. Both will get out there aways accurately beyond that with ease, but not for our taking of big deer.

Like Mr. Bart says, the 6.8spc with a Barnes 95 TTSX loaded up a bit, really likes deer a lot, and out to 300 - 350 yds. for us with ease. If the shot was offered and taken proper, the little 6.8mm made one almost think ya just hit the deer with a very well placed .270win. Shot !

The Hornady 100 GMX and Hornady SST have worked out nicely as well...

One side note. Danger, danger Will Robinson - If you choose to own and hunt with both cartridges in your camp, really check which boolits you have just put in your hunting coat before loading in the gun. They are so very similar, itz eazy to mix them up !!!
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Hmmm

- "Wild steelhead were more numerous this year than they were in the 1970s" ( ITYOOL - 2015 )

- "It's past the time to "play nice", after all, they are pooching us royally."

D'uh!

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#995813 - 11/02/18 05:00 PM Re: US Armed Forces Dumping the 5.56 [Re: Myassisdragon]
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So I'm still thinkin' that this report is about the new caseless ammo, which happens to shoot a 6.8mm slug.
NOT the 6.8 SPC cartridge.

Grendel People can move away from the edge, now.
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