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#944624 - 12/10/15 12:52 PM Finally the Proof!
WDFW X 1 = 0 Offline
My Area code makes me cooler than you

Registered: 01/27/15
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This weather is exactly why we need a series of dams on the upper Chehalis river!!!!

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#944626 - 12/10/15 01:14 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
Mystical Legends Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/01/05
Posts: 517
Loc: Des Moines NOT Seattle
Hmmm, great point. I was thinking that as well. Not sure about a series of dams but two would do just fine. They need to make a big reservoir way up high. In the warm months they can pull cool water from the deep part of it..... That cool water would be beneficial to smolts in years of drought. Since the state is getting away from the planting of salmon and steelhead those dams would give us a couple more bass lakes...win, win


Edited by Mystical Legends (12/10/15 01:15 PM)
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#944627 - 12/10/15 01:32 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
WDFW X 1 = 0 Offline
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The warm water fishery's are where it's at.
Not to mention the benefit to the local economy while building the dams.

Why not plant Muskie as well?
That has been a tremendous success in Mayfield Lake.

The dams would also hold back the muddy water an extra day or two so the locals could continue catching the wild coho that head up Pautzke Creek.

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#944628 - 12/10/15 01:49 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
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Pautzke Creek... Would that be the North, South or Middle fork???
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#944629 - 12/10/15 01:57 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
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My Area code makes me cooler than you

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The answer is in the name.

What do you figure the significance of the donkey in this video is Timber?


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#944650 - 12/10/15 05:44 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
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Registered: 01/09/14
Posts: 2312
Loc: Sky River(WA) Clearwater(Id)
Originally Posted By: WDFW X 1 = 0


What do you figure the significance of the donkey in this video is Timber?


He's a Democrat?
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#944651 - 12/10/15 06:13 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: Bent Metal]
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How about Lewis County quit allowing building on the flood plain, oh yeah, it's Lewis County. Hmm, I bought a house on a hill, no flooding here, it wasn't by chance.
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#944654 - 12/10/15 06:28 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
jgreen Offline
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Registered: 04/18/12
Posts: 315
Loc: Elma, WA
We should just cork off all of the local streams. The Satsop, humptulips hell even the small little feeder creeks. Who needs wild fish anyways?

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#944660 - 12/10/15 08:49 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
speymont Offline
Fry

Registered: 01/07/12
Posts: 22
I can’t believe in this day and age anyone who cares about wild fish would want more dams. We just took one out.

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#944661 - 12/10/15 08:57 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: fish4brains]
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Originally Posted By: fish4brains
How about Lewis County quit allowing building on the flood plain, oh yeah, it's Lewis County. Hmm, I bought a house on a hill, no flooding here, it wasn't by chance.

You could say the same thing about King County, but they have a dam.
I say get rid of every dam starting with Howard Hansen and Mud Mountain. Absolute stupidity to build in a flood plain and complain about flooding. Even stupider to build a dam so you can build in a flood plain and pay for the maintenance and mitigation. Oh yeah, that's King County.


Edited by No Warranty (12/10/15 08:59 PM)
Edit Reason: Forgot there were TWO flood dams in King County

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#944662 - 12/10/15 09:00 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: No Warranty]
speymont Offline
Fry

Registered: 01/07/12
Posts: 22
Originally Posted By: No Warranty
Originally Posted By: fish4brains
How about Lewis County quit allowing building on the flood plain, oh yeah, it's Lewis County. Hmm, I bought a house on a hill, no flooding here, it wasn't by chance.

You could say the same thing about King County, but they have a dam.
I say get rid of every dam starting with Howard Hansen and Mud Mountain. Absolute stupidity to build in a flood plain and complain about flooding. Even stupider to build a dam so you can build in a flood plain and pay for the maintenance and mitigation. Oh yeah, that's King County.


Perfectly logical! Thank you!

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#944665 - 12/10/15 11:10 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
Met'lheadMatt Offline
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Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 723
What would a dam due, wynoochee still floods and it has a dam

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#944673 - 12/11/15 06:57 AM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
Timber Offline
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Loc: Stumpy Acres
Originally Posted By: WDFW X 1 = 0
The answer is in the name.

What do you figure the significance of the donkey in this video is Timber?



It's a smart ass
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#944691 - 12/11/15 11:05 AM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
WDFW X 1 = 0 Offline
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Build a dam.
Throw a culvert in so the wild fish swim around it.
Develop the flood plain.
Man is managing the entire ecosystem.

Concrete to all and to all a good night.

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#944698 - 12/11/15 12:35 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
FleaFlickr02 Offline
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Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3314
I honestly don't know how that project maintains any traction. If I recall correctly, last time the Corps of Engineers did an assessment of the proposed benefits from dams in the upper basin, they determined that instead of the 10 feet of water that covered I-5 at Centralia in 2007, with dams in place, there would have been 8 feet of water.

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#944709 - 12/11/15 02:55 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: FleaFlickr02]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13523
Originally Posted By: FleaFlickr02
I honestly don't know how that project maintains any traction. If I recall correctly, last time the Corps of Engineers did an assessment of the proposed benefits from dams in the upper basin, they determined that instead of the 10 feet of water that covered I-5 at Centralia in 2007, with dams in place, there would have been 8 feet of water.


That project maintains traction because local movers and shakers are able to keep the concept alive by spending Other People's Money (OPM; i.e., Thurston Co. & WA state funds, not local), and because they know that the Corps has developed even stupider projects nationally if the political support can be mustered. The second no federal, state, or Thurston Co. money isn't available, and all the costs are on Lewis Co., the Chehalis dam proposal might finally begin to die.

Sg

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#944710 - 12/11/15 03:50 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
Carcassman Offline
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7428
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
If a flood control dam works so well then how come Pacific is under water? Obviously, Lewis County won't make the same mistakes, right?

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#944711 - 12/11/15 04:26 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
FleaFlickr02 Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3314
I have a counterproposal to offer: I could be convinced to support a dam... provided it's built at about Grand Mound. You could store a LOT of water in the Centrahalis Reservoir that would result.

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#944718 - 12/11/15 06:22 PM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: Carcassman]
No Warranty Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 07/28/09
Posts: 111
Originally Posted By: Carcassman
If a flood control dam works so well then how come Pacific is under water? Obviously, Lewis County won't make the same mistakes, right?

Imagine if Howard Hanson and Mud Mountain had never been built.
Imagine a world where we let rivers flood and just built on higher ground. We would save so much money and property damage we could probably fund another war.

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#944732 - 12/12/15 07:41 AM Re: Finally the Proof! [Re: No Warranty]
Rivrguy Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4411
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
Quote:
What would a dam due, wynoochee still floods and it has a dam


That statement is correct and wrong at the same time. The Wynoochee Dam is managed to reduce the flows entering the Chehalis at crest. It works by the way. The recent windstorm had the Chehalis held nearly two feet above forecast ( verified yesterday at high tide ) and Aberdeen had some flooding problems but minor. At my house it is the second highest in the last ten years but had not for the dam it would have been six inches or more higher and that would a have been a problem. If not managed correctly you get the Nooch on the freeway at Monte as a few years back but that was caused by not having enough capacity to hold a 1000 year flood.
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