#1037010 - 08/24/20 10:49 AM
Boats lost at B10 this morning
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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If you haven't seen the videos yet, you will soon...a guide from VIP Outdoors ran over a private boat this morning, both boats were lost.
All the people were rescued, thankfully.
The video is rather amazing...it starts with the guide boat up on top of the other boat, and all of the people getting in that boat...but when it starts to slide off, both boats went under in about 20 seconds and never came back up.
If you are on Facebook, it's all over there now.
Be careful out there, please...no fish or fishing is worth that.
Fish on...
Todd
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#1037011 - 08/24/20 11:11 AM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
[Re: Todd]
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The guide in question sold that boat to someone, new owner hadn't removed the wrap on it yet if I remember correctly but I could be wrong.
Hope everyone made it out safe. ALWAYS WEAR YOUR PFD.
SH!t happens fast, and its not a matter of if, but when.
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#1037012 - 08/24/20 11:14 AM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
[Re: Paul Smenis]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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The guide in question sold that boat to someone, new owner hadn't removed the wrap on it yet if I remember correctly but I could be wrong.
Had not heard this... Here's a link to the video on Facebook, if you are there... https://www.facebook.com/todd.ripley.3/posts/3742857445741879Fish on... Todd
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#1037019 - 08/24/20 01:19 PM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
[Re: Todd]
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Very lucky no one got hung up.
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#1037021 - 08/24/20 01:22 PM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Very lucky no one got hung up. Agreed. I think the boat on the bottom had time to abandon ship, and were all or mostly all in the red boat by the time they both went down. Scary AF. Fish on... Todd
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#1037024 - 08/24/20 01:40 PM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
[Re: Todd]
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Link to the video is dead
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#1037025 - 08/24/20 01:43 PM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
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Dick Nipples
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Link to the video is dead Takes me right to it...but you have to be on Facebook. Fish on... Todd
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#1037029 - 08/24/20 02:52 PM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
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Link to the video is dead Takes me right to it...but you have to be on Facebook. Fish on... Todd link worked for me sans Facebook.
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#1037055 - 08/25/20 10:27 AM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
[Re: Todd]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Followup from VIP Outdoors: https://www.facebook.com/vipoutdoors/videos/336875080833632I am glad everyone is ok, and this guy sure seems like a class act. Fish on... Todd
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#1037058 - 08/25/20 10:39 AM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
[Re: Todd]
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Registered: 10/26/10
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Wow - that's scary AF. They are extremely lucky nobody on the bottom boat wasn't knocked out or severely injured and thus could abandon ship.
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#1037136 - 08/26/20 10:41 AM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
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I'm not so sure about the class act part, Todd. A class act wouldn't say it could happen to anyone, when it's abundantly clear that these accidents only seem to happen to boat drivers who aren't watching where they are going. I see it happen with the guide boats quite often, when they finish trolling a line and all the gear is back on board, the guide powers up, then gets on his phone to check with his network about where the bite is going on, and usually watch where they are driving, but not always. I've fished among the bumper boat traffic there enough times to see that it's all about keeping one's eyes on the road, just like driving on the highway. Yeah, I question the "class act" myself, he seems to imply that because it's a good thing no-one was seriously hurt that blame for the "accident' isn't something to be talked about. I know that if i was in the boat being crushed I'd have some heavy hitter lawyers involved. I'd fuc*ing own "VIP". Hopefully the Coast Guard pulls this sucker's guide license. We had a pair of jokers nearly sink us at Seiku 10 or 15 years back, watching their rods and not where they were going impacts the rear corner of the kicker boat we were using. And this after us yelling " Look where you're fuc*ing going!". If they were a little more direct in placement and not just trolling we would have been in serious trouble. And why was the photo of the "accident" pulled ? Someone doesn't want bad publicity, I guess. It should be required to be posted on their website. That way people know what kind of guide they are hiring.
Edited by bobrr (08/26/20 10:45 AM)
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#1037138 - 08/26/20 10:46 AM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
[Re: Todd]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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There's no doubt that VIP's insurance company is going to be paying out, and it may be a lot.
Fish on...
Todd
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#1037235 - 08/27/20 08:32 AM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
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I'm guessing that VIP is licensed as a guide in Oregon, because to "guide" at Buoy 10 in Washington you need a charter license, although there is lots of cheating with respect to licenses going on down there, I wonder what type of Coast Guard license VIP has. Most likely a 6 pack, And it will probably get pulled, but will take a while. Can ODFW pull a guide's license for reckless boating? I doubt that. Almost all of the fishable water at B-10 is in Oregon. I'm curious about the victim's boat and why they didn't dodge the idiot's boat? I might have wrongly assumed that both boats were traveling at a trolling speed, but there are huge tidal influences that can accelerate boats going with the tide that could make a "trolling" speed pretty darn fast. A boat trolling down current could meet up with a boat trolling against the current could close the distance pretty quickly. I'm surprised that more serious accidents don't happen. The Rules of the Road don't seem to be followed there.
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#1037243 - 08/27/20 09:57 AM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
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River Nutrients
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I was also wondering about the licensing jurisdiction and pretty much came to the same conclusions with one minor exception. I believe the requirement in WA for a charter license is downstream of the Longview bridge to include but not limited to the Buoy 10 fishery.
Now for the rhetorical question. How much outside of the community revenue does not flow into Pacific County because of that charter license (limited entry and no more being issued) requirement on the WA side? And then how much sales tax is not going into WA coffers as WA fishers go to Oregon to meet up with what are often WA guides working on an OR guide license to include food, lodging and fuel?
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#1037244 - 08/27/20 09:59 AM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
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bobrr
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I'm guessing that VIP is licensed as a guide in Oregon, because to "guide" at Buoy 10 in Washington you need a charter license, although there is lots of cheating with respect to licenses going on down there, I wonder what type of Coast Guard license VIP has. Most likely a 6 pack, And it will probably get pulled, but will take a while. Can ODFW pull a guide's license for reckless boating? I doubt that. Almost all of the fishable water at B-10 is in Oregon. I'm curious about the victim's boat and why they didn't dodge the idiot's boat? I might have wrongly assumed that both boats were traveling at a trolling speed, but there are huge tidal influences that can accelerate boats going with the tide that could make a "trolling" speed pretty darn fast. A boat trolling down current could meet up with a boat trolling against the current could close the distance pretty quickly. I'm surprised that more serious accidents don't happen. The Rules of the Road don't seem to be followed there.
from the orig. photo (which looks like it is imm. after the collision) There are NO rods out in the offender's boat. I'd say they were trying to get somewhere in a big hurry, certainly too big of a hurry. And at speed how do you expect the victim's boat to get out of the way? After being near run into on the Chehalis by both charter and private boats numerous times (the last one got a ticket according to Grey's Harbor sheriff's Marine patrol) I am not surprised by any of this crap.
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#1037250 - 08/27/20 10:58 AM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
[Re: Todd]
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Shooting Instructor for hire
Registered: 10/26/10
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Loc: Snohomish, WA
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So how do they recover a boat in that instance? Inflatable airbags to bring it back up or do they just hook up a heavy hook and pull it up?
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#1037278 - 08/27/20 01:17 PM
Re: Boats lost at B10 this morning
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Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 389
Loc: Tri-Cities, WA
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So how do they recover a boat in that instance? Inflatable airbags to bring it back up or do they just hook up a heavy hook and pull it up? From what I've seen, they use inflatable bags. https://www.facebook.com/AllenWaterRescueServices/photos
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