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#1050789 - 04/19/21 10:55 AM 2021 Ocean Seasons ......... sorta
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I thought a thread for this years salmon seasons might be helpful to some.

NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
April 16, 2021
Contact: Kyle Adicks, 360-902-2664
Public Affairs contact: Ben Anderson, 360-902-0045
Washington salmon seasons tentatively set for 2021-22
OLYMPIA – Despite a strong projected coho return to the state’s ocean waters, this year’s Washington salmon seasons largely reflect continued low runs of some wild Chinook and coho stocks, especially in Puget Sound, state fishery managers announced yesterday.
The state's 2021-22 salmon fishing seasons, developed by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) and treaty tribal co-managers, were tentatively set Thursday at the end of a week-long Pacific Fishery Management Council (PFMC) meeting held via webinar.
“These are difficult times for salmon in Washington, which means it’s also a difficult time for fishing,” said WDFW Director Kelly Susewind. “Fortunately, there should still be some good opportunities available to anglers throughout the state. We’ll be monitoring returns closely to make sure we’re staying within our conservation objectives, and modify fisheries as needed.”
Managers made a late push Thursday to reach final consensus on potential fisheries for Queets River and Grays Harbor coho while staying within conservation objectives established under the Pacific Salmon Treaty, which pushed the PFMC meeting past its original adjournment time.
Season recommendations now move forward for approval by the National Marine Fisheries Service and final rulemaking, including additional opportunity for public comment and consideration of those comments.
Puget Sound
Continued low returns of Stillaguamish Chinook and Snohomish coho, as well as Skagit spring and Skagit summer/fall Chinook, will again impact fishing in several Puget Sound marine areas. Winter salmon fishing will again be mostly closed in East Juan De Fuca Strait (Marine Area 6), the San Juan Islands (Marine Area 7), Deception Pass and Port Gardner (areas 8-1 and 8-2), Admiralty Inlet (Marine Area 9), and Hood Canal (Marine Area 12), with some limited hatchery Chinook retention opportunity available in Marine Area 11 in November and December.
“Setting seasons for Puget Sound is always a challenge, with a few stocks that can restrict fishing throughout the area depending on the time of year,” said Kyle Adicks, intergovernmental salmon manager with WDFW. “We worked very hard this year to preserve fishing opportunity where we could, while recognizing that conservation concerns will always impact everything we do.”
Those conservation concerns include strict protections for Stillaguamish and Skagit fish, which are expected to reduce catch quotas for summer fisheries in Marine Areas 7 and 9. There will be no salmon fishing in the Stillaguamish River in 2021, and instead there will be a game fish fishery.
Most Puget Sound marine areas will once again open for the summer season beginning in July or August, with mid-June openers currently planned for areas 10 and 11.
The 2021-22 season also includes the return of pink salmon to Puget Sound, pink salmon will be part of the 2 salmon daily limit in all marine areas and many river systems have bonus daily limits of pinks depending on the expected return.
Columbia River
Many Columbia River fisheries are expected to offer expanded opportunity compared to 2020, beginning with an opportunity to retain sockeye and hatchery Chinook from the Astoria-Megler Bridge to Highway 395 in Pasco starting in mid-June.
The lower river from Buoy 10 to the Highway 395 bridge in Pasco is planned for an Aug. 1 opening for both Chinook and coho; Buoy 10 didn’t open until Aug. 14 last year. A strong coho forecast and increased Chinook run size should provide for good fishing opportunities.
Washington's ocean waters
Initial ocean fisheries reflect increased coho quotas due to significantly higher projected returns of Columbia River coho in 2021; however, low projections for Washington coastal coho limited quotas there, particularly on the north coast.
All four of Washington's marine areas are scheduled to open June 19 for a Chinook-only fishery, then transition to a Chinook and coho fishery beginning June 27 in Westport and Ilwaco, and beginning July 4 in Neah Bay and La Push. Daily limits and days of the week open to salmon fishing vary between areas.
More information
Additional information about this year's sport salmon fisheries and the North of Falcon process can be found on WDFW's website at https://wdfw.wa.gov/nof. Visit https://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/regulations to see statewide fishing regulations and download the latest fishing rules pamphlet, and https://fortress.wa.gov/dfw/erules/efishrules/ for emergency rule changes that may impact fisheries.
For information on tribal fisheries, contact the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission (http://nwifc.org).
WDFW continues to ask anglers to practice responsible recreation amid continued concerns related to the COVID-19 pandemic in Washington, and to check for potential restrictions/closures at their preferred destination before heading out.
The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife works to preserve, protect and perpetuate fish, wildlife and ecosystems while providing sustainable fish, wildlife, and recreational and commercial opportunities.
Individuals who need to receive this information in an alternative format, language, or who need reasonable accommodations to participate in WDFW-sponsored public meetings or other activities may contact the Title VI/ADA Compliance Coordinator by phone at 360-902-2349, TTY (711), or email (Title6@dfw.wa.gov).


Edited by Rivrguy (04/21/21 08:36 AM)
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#1050802 - 04/19/21 12:50 PM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: Rivrguy]
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Being the backward-looking ***hole that I am, I seem to remember that the Westport Charterboat fishery landed about 750,000 coho at least into the 70s. Even cutting this in half for Boldt (and not all of the fish taken were subject to sharing) we have lost a lot. Therefore, a "strong projected return" of coho rings hollow.

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#1050809 - 04/19/21 02:59 PM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: Rivrguy]
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Maybe it is hollow because the Westport Charterboat fishery landed 750,000 coho year after year!
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#1050813 - 04/19/21 03:35 PM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: Rivrguy]
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FYI. PfMC website has data base of Westport Charter coho landings from 1976 onward. I think 1976 was the record high BTW. The Westport charter coho catch was 450K that year. It dropped to half that the next year and remainded below 200k thereafter.


https://www.pcouncil.org/safe-documents-3/

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#1050818 - 04/19/21 05:29 PM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: Rivrguy]
Luke R Offline
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Tough to read the PFMC catch document and not get upset at our seasons when you see the treaty/non-treaty catch balance. 2-1 and not in our favor.

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#1050830 - 04/20/21 06:40 AM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: Rivrguy]
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Just no end in sight for bad news... My snoho coho season looks like it's toast for good..

What I've never understood is, when a fishery opens to retention, they open it for two or three fish at a time. Fishery becomes overcrowded with fish hogs and what do you know, after a few years you get depressed stocks.... I just don't understand why if they want to keep a river open for a longer period of time and allow more fish to spawn, why not just take the conservative approach and open it to 1 fish per day? Folks that really enjoy fishing and harvesting a little (not everything) would still be motivated to go. Just fricken maddening!!!
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#1050832 - 04/20/21 07:30 AM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: cobble cruiser]
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04/20/2021

Originally Posted By: cobble cruiser


What I've never understood is, when a fishery opens to retention, they open it for two or three fish at a time. Fishery becomes overcrowded with fish hogs and what do you know, after a few years you get depressed stocks.... I just don't understand why if they want to keep a river open for a longer period of time and allow more fish to spawn, why not just take the conservative approach and open it to 1 fish per day? Folks that really enjoy fishing and harvesting a little (not everything) would still be motivated to go. Just fricken maddening!!!


WDFW, Fish management just can't get past the MSY bit when they come to setting seasons for salmon, that's more to deal with the commercial bit of season setting.

MSY = maximum sustainable yield

(especially in forestry and fisheries) the maximum level at which a natural resource can be routinely exploited without long-term depletion.
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#1050833 - 04/20/21 07:33 AM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: Rivrguy]
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Well...if these are the only people that WDFW will listen to BEHIND closed doors under the guise of it being a public meeting you have your answer.

Ravae O'Leary

Dave Croonquist

Ryan Bullock

Robert Kratzer

Cary Hofmann

Bill Meyer

Tom Moonan

Rod Fleck
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#1050834 - 04/20/21 07:36 AM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: Rivrguy]
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If that's supposed to be a "responsible" and "well staffed from across the stakeholder group" committee we are way more effed than we know
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#1050836 - 04/20/21 07:57 AM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: Rivrguy]
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I was on the original routing list do to an earlier contact, but asked to be dropped off the panel. The panelists selected are guides and business people on the Coast. I will not be one of the panelists.

Dave Croonquist


The WDFW panelists will be:

Craig Burley
Larry Carpenter, Chair 
Joe Panesko
James Anderson, Commissioner
James Losee 
Don McIsaac, Commissioner 
Barbara Baker, Vice Chair 
Kelly Susewind 
Kelly Cunningham


Edited by bushbear (04/20/21 08:09 AM)

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#1050837 - 04/20/21 08:17 AM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: Rivrguy]
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Here's the agenda for the ZOOM meeting on the Coastal Steelhead regulation follow-up.


Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife Fish and Wildlife Commission


WHEN: April 21, 2021 – 2:00-4:00 PM
Agenda:
1. Opening remarks - stakeholders 20 minutes
2. Commissioner Comments 20 minutes
3. Staff presentation – 2021-22 communication plan for season setting 20 minutes
4. Stakeholder questions 20 minutes
5. Next steps 20 minutes
6. Closing comments/meeting wrap up 20 minutes


*WHERE: This meeting will take place via Zoom.
The link for the public to listen to the discussion is: (https://zoom.us/j/98213726635).

To join via phone please choose a number below and then you will be prompted to enter the Webinar ID#:
982 -372-6635
1-253-215-8782 1-888-475-4499 (Toll Free)

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#1050873 - 04/20/21 01:13 PM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: On The Swing]
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Originally Posted By: On The Swing
Well...if these are the only people that WDFW will listen to BEHIND closed doors under the guise of it being a public meeting you have your answer.

Ravae O'Leary

Dave Croonquist

Ryan Bullock

Robert Kratzer

Cary Hofmann

Bill Meyer

Tom Moonan

Rod Fleck


Well I know a couple of those dudes pretty well so I'll go ahead and ask them. Really great guys that I know do care immensely.
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#1050875 - 04/20/21 02:31 PM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: cobble cruiser]
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Loc: Arlington, Washington
I like seeing there will be a gamefish fishery on the Stilly. Hopefully it amounts to more than a September 1st or 15th opener and we get a full summer steelhead and cutthroat trout fishery like we used to.

I will keep hoping for a coho fishery on the Snohomish.

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#1050876 - 04/20/21 02:33 PM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: Rivrguy]
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They only "care immensely" to the extent of how their pocketbooks will be effected one way or the other.

They DO NOT represent a "diverse" group of stakeholders...every single one is a commercial entity poised to continue their profiteering off our failing stocks.
Where's the conservation group people, the private anglers..where are all the other stakeholders?
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#1050886 - 04/21/21 06:23 AM Re: 2021 Seasons ......... sorta [Re: Rivrguy]
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Any idea when detail dates will be announced?
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