Finally the Proof!

This weather is exactly why we need a series of dams on the upper Chehalis river!!!!

Hmmm, great point. I was thinking that as well. Not sure about a series of dams but two would do just fine. They need to make a big reservoir way up high. In the warm months they can pull cool water from the deep part of it..... That cool water would be beneficial to smolts in years of drought. Since the state is getting away from the planting of salmon and steelhead those dams would give us a couple more bass lakes...win, win

The warm water fishery's are where it's at.
Not to mention the benefit to the local economy while building the dams.

Why not plant Muskie as well?
That has been a tremendous success in Mayfield Lake.

The dams would also hold back the muddy water an extra day or two so the locals could continue catching the wild coho that head up Pautzke Creek.

Pautzke Creek... Would that be the North, South or Middle fork???

The answer is in the name.

What do you figure the significance of the donkey in this video is Timber?

He's a Democrat?

How about Lewis County quit allowing building on the flood plain, oh yeah, it's Lewis County. Hmm, I bought a house on a hill, no flooding here, it wasn't by chance.

We should just cork off all of the local streams. The Satsop, humptulips hell even the small little feeder creeks. Who needs wild fish anyways?

I can’t believe in this day and age anyone who cares about wild fish would want more dams. We just took one out.

You could say the same thing about King County, but they have a dam.
I say get rid of every dam starting with Howard Hansen and Mud Mountain. Absolute stupidity to build in a flood plain and complain about flooding. Even stupider to build a dam so you can build in a flood plain and pay for the maintenance and mitigation. Oh yeah, that's King County.

Perfectly logical! Thank you!

What would a dam due, wynoochee still floods and it has a dam

It's a smart ass

Build a dam.
Throw a culvert in so the wild fish swim around it.
Develop the flood plain.
Man is managing the entire ecosystem.

Concrete to all and to all a good night.

I honestly don't know how that project maintains any traction. If I recall correctly, last time the Corps of Engineers did an assessment of the proposed benefits from dams in the upper basin, they determined that instead of the 10 feet of water that covered I-5 at Centralia in 2007, with dams in place, there would have been 8 feet of water.

That project maintains traction because local movers and shakers are able to keep the concept alive by spending Other People's Money (OPM; i.e., Thurston Co. & WA state funds, not local), and because they know that the Corps has developed even stupider projects nationally if the political support can be mustered. The second no federal, state, or Thurston Co. money isn't available, and all the costs are on Lewis Co., the Chehalis dam proposal might finally begin to die.

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If a flood control dam works so well then how come Pacific is under water? Obviously, Lewis County won't make the same mistakes, right?

I have a counterproposal to offer: I could be convinced to support a dam... provided it's built at about Grand Mound. You could store a LOT of water in the Centrahalis Reservoir that would result.

Imagine if Howard Hanson and Mud Mountain had never been built.
Imagine a world where we let rivers flood and just built on higher ground. We would save so much money and property damage we could probably fund another war.

That statement is correct and wrong at the same time. The Wynoochee Dam is managed to reduce the flows entering the Chehalis at crest. It works by the way. The recent windstorm had the Chehalis held nearly two feet above forecast ( verified yesterday at high tide ) and Aberdeen had some flooding problems but minor. At my house it is the second highest in the last ten years but had not for the dam it would have been six inches or more higher and that would a have been a problem. If not managed correctly you get the Nooch on the freeway at Monte as a few years back but that was caused by not having enough capacity to hold a 1000 year flood.

Be careful what you wish for. I once saw a proposal to put a dam on the Sacramento/San Joaquin at the Carqueniz Strait so that more freshwater could be sent to SoCal. I bet you could get funding the Grand Mound dam if it included a pipe to LA.

EXACTLY! The one time every 500 years or so you really need a dam for flood control, it FAILS. True, dams help control minor floods, but it's not minor floods they're built to control.

The only effective means of preventing flood damage is by NOT BUILDING IN FLOOD PLAINS. EVERY PERSON clamoring for flood control dams on the Chehalis either lives or works next to the river (and in many cases paid a premium for the right to do so). I absolutely understand people wanting to protect their investments, but putting that burden on other people, who did not make the choice to build next to a large river, as well as the wildlife that will be compromised by dams, is flat out shameful.

Log it.
Build it.
Back it up.
Controlled release it.

Build more downstream..

Add a few parks as well.
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