Jay Inslee is out

https://www.governor.wa.gov/news-media/inslee-statement-%E2%80%9Cwe%E2%80%99ve-made-washington-beacon-progress-nation-i%E2%80%99m-ready-pass-torch%E2%80%9D
Fingers crossed for a recreation friendly hunting and fishing Governor next term.

Better start finding candidates now. And constructing coalitions.

Hallelujah! Hopefully the next one won' t make us choose between our jobs and a mandate and puts recreational fisheries on an equal playing field as commercials.

Considering that Ferguson just said that he is considering running I am not sure this is better.

I hope it's good news but the track record in this state doesn't give me alot of hope.

Sitting on the sidelines taking potshots at candidates won't help. The consumptive users of resources need to construct coalitions beginning now and find a truly electable candidate to support.

Worst governor in state history !
Now we need a person who protects and defends the constitution and Liberty and Freedom and will reverse all the unconstitutional garbage that’s been done.

5/04/2023



Must be a "far righter"?????

Just checked, since I was born, 1940, there have been 9 Democrat and 4 Republican Governors......If you are on the political "right side", you'd better be a doer, not just a talker/or typist or it will be 10 D's and 4 R's governors.

Ohhhhh please list "what YOU feel are the "unconstitutional garbage" that has been done and need to be reversed.

Further, if you think something is unConstitutional take it to Court and prove it.

Proving something it unconstitutional is not that easy, especially when the power of the state is against you. Perhaps if you are independently rich. I actually sat in a council meeting years ago when they were passing a very questionable ordinance. One of the council members asked their lawyer about whether is was constitutional. The lawyer actually stated that they were on very shaky ground and that it probably would not pass muster, but not too worry as the cost of fighting would be too much for most people. He went further on to state that if someone actually did fight it they could drop the charges on that case, allowing the law to stay on the books. They then passed the ordinance. It felt to me like they were committing organized crime. Its been over 30 years and that law is still on the books.

I just hope we have a choice for a moderate candidate, with a common sense approach to all sides, regardless of party. Tired of the left wing loony's and the right wing wacko's and there antics. And of course, have a candidate that likes to recreate fishing and hunting.

Bob Ferguson, the current Attorney General, has announced that he is going to run. I figured as much; Ferguson has been waiting for Inslee to step aside, so this is his chance. I do not approve of Ferguson as AG, and I don't want him as governor either. He is a left wing progressive, and that's too far left for my political preferences. And I lean to the left. A moderate, of either party, would be a blessing, but moderates can't seem to get past the primaries. My guess is Ferguson will have the greater war chest by a country mile, and therefore the election. A Republican like Rob McKenna, former AG, has the skills a good governor needs, if only he would leave the Catholic dogma behind.

Another thing that popped up with Bob is that the AG's Office has, on more than one occasion, withheld discovery in court cases. Very recently they got fined a bunch plus have to pay the opponents attorney fees plus pay a guy $500/hour to deeply investigate the documents. I believe that he also supports non-disclosure in general, opposing expansion of Freedom of Information requests. Should add that WDFW has similarly lost traparency cases. I'm with Salmo on this.

I was supportive of McKenna until he put on the tea-party hat.

Good points about Ferguson, C-man. Not good governor material. I want more transparency in government, not less.

If not McKenna as the R candidate, who? Everyone else on that side has been a frickin' whacko.

What is happening?! A political thread without Todd? The truth will be here shortly to guide us....

This here is the problem. Why does it matter what political hat one is wearing? McKenna was one of the more reasonable candidates for governor this state has seen in a while. But people in these parts are so fixated on party that they will pick a worse candidate they probably like less as long is the person aligns with their “team”. Does anyone here truly think Inslee has done a better job in office than McKenna would have? From my perspective, the quality of life in Washington has declined in a variety of metrics during his tenure.

As far as who would be better in the long run for salmon, fishing and hunting it is hard to say, but I’m inclined to believe McKenna would be better for sportsmen and opportunity.

Ferguson is terrible and even worse than Inslee. My fear is he will be our next governor because he is a (D) and some people can’t fathom the idea of voting for an (R) even if they are a considerably better candidate.


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I was hoping PCE Bruce Dammeier would stick his foot in the door, but it doesn't sound like he's inerested for now. He is a moderate and they seem to have trouble getting support in the current climate.

Whoever has a plan to clean up the homeless drug vagrant camps and to allow the poiice to do their jobs properly gets my vote.

passing a high capacity magazine ban last year should have been enough. So now my pistol and an ar or ak hold the same amount of ammo, so they do the same amount of damage. logical right? So what was the need to ban "assault" rifles? This is a blatant unconstitutional violation of the 2nd amendment.
Drifter, what does the second amendment say?
What's going on in Illinois right now?
Hopefully sooner than later that happens here.

Bingo. Look how fast our country got turned on its head.

-Remember when inslee said that maga republicans are the ones not getting vaccinated and endangering their neighbors? Politicizing chit again. And not focusing on making crime illegal again.
-Remember when jaybob and turd Ferguson tried to smear sheriff Ed troyer in court and make him out to be a racist, even though he has a couple of African American foster children in his family. Not to mention, one of the most polite, shoot you straight officers in the area.
-Remember the 30$ car tabs that we voted on, for them to tell you afterwards. Not gonna happen folks. Tyranny at its finest.

We defaulted on passing a drug possession law but made sure to step on your second amendment rights first. Washington priorities.

We are way better than this guys.

For many voters, yes, political party does matter. But I think a lot more care about positions on issues. And I think that is where McKenna lost. Anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage is never gonna' fly in mostly liberal WA state even if fiscal conservatism were the next priority. Those were deal breakers for me, and I don't even have a dog in the abortion or gay fights.

Regarding hunting and fishing, I don't think either Party much cares. The hook and bullet fraternity is just too small of a niche interest to matter in the larger scope of state politics. Both will give high quality lip service to the subject and then deliver nothing after being elected. Unless hunting and fishing dole out a hella' lotta' cash to the campiagn, that is.

I don't think any reasonable argument exists that McKenna isn't more highly skilled than either Inslee or Ferguson, but no R can win if they are in the anti-abortion and anti-gay rights camp. It's been that way in WA for at least the last 70 years.

That would more likely than not be a R candidate. And McKenna was probably the best in WA in decades, and we - and he - saw what happened. So then the Rs ran a true nut job like Culp last time. It's hard if not next to impossible to get a qualified R candidate to run in WA.

Déjà vu the Darkside has returned.

I would agree with this for the most part. What is interesting to me is how much value people put on social issues that mostly do not impact them personally. The majority of Washingtonians are neither gay nor seeking abortions. One would think the other issues are more important and would be the deciding factors. As for CM, I doubt he is either gay or seeking an abortion. I’d be interested in hearing his justification for his decision.


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Which decision? I wanted to support McKenna because he seemed, before going far-right, to support social choice and fiscal constraint. As do I.

WA, in my mind, is in a fiscal mess. How much do we spend on hatcheries, habitat, education, homelessness, infrastructure, mental health, and so on? To what end? What has that money accomplished? I don't mind growing money at something, if it works. And if continued expenditures are tied to success.

The left generally appears to no support accountability but for me, meeting the big social issues trumps that. I am searching for that "middle-person" but don't see forcing people into closets or backstreet abortions as a viable alternative.

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So then the Rs ran a true nut job like Culp last time.
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Say the folks that actually put forth & voted for the dumbest nut job of a governor that has spent and wasted more money and time making the most serious issues of this state worse than they were before he came to power...

The dems in this state own all of this fiasco.

The decision to not vote for/support McKenna. Also, how is it “far right” to believe in traditionalism when it comes to marriage, family values, and personal responsibility? That seems more level headed, reasonable and rationale than supporting post modernism and “freedom” to mutilate one’s own body to kill a child that isn’t wanted or undergone transition surgeries, especially for minors.

It raises serious ethical questions that the political left and the medical field both refuse to address. There is improper informed consent both with abortions and with sex transition surgeries. The UK is realizing this and there are many lawsuits around this.

Again, it strikes me as bizarre that given the current state of affairs in Washington, like you said, with its severely poor fiscal, educational, mental health, homeless, infrastructure policies that “the big social issues” that aren’t really “big social issues” are more important to you when you are neither gay, nor seeking abortions to begin with. The former issues affect you to a considerably higher degree.

Does this make sense to you?


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I didn't vote for him. I wanted to until he went too far in my mind. In the US I grew up in and was educated in (including 8 years in parochial schools) I was taught that my rights did not allow me to tell others how to live.

My religion, and my beliefs within it, are mine. Not yours. I can't tell you how to live so long as you allow me, or others, to live our lives.

You are correct that WA's lac of success is a big problem. It will only be solved when society, from the bottom up, makes its representatives accountable for results. Always voting "no" or "yes" is not accountability.

Since this is actually a fishing site I am going to make a comment about choices for the next governor of WA. As far as fishing is concerned in this state does it really matter who the next governor is or what party he/she is? The tribe(s) in this state will buy him/her off with money for their campaigns. They have done it before and will continue to do it.

hI think you hit that nail on the head, Lifter. I also think BC is wandering down that same path.

With regard to fishing, I agree that it doesn't matter who or which party the next governor is from. Fishing is too small of an issue to matter to any candidate. Unless, like I posted above, fishing interests drown a candidate with campaign donations. Money can make it matter, but that's about the only way.

yes Lifter u hit right on the head..$$$$ is what talks

passing a high capacity magazine ban last year should have been enough. So now my pistol and an ar or ak hold the same amount of ammo, so they do the same amount of damage. logical right?


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So...exactly what kind of damage are you looking to do?

So...exactly what kind of damage are you looking to do?[/quote]

none. Just simply stating that because of a ban on high capacity magazines, which pretty much made all firearms equal (as far as capacity and excluding Revolvers), there should have been no unconstitutional ban on certain types of rifles. Last I checked, most shootings in this state happen with stolen pistols. Confused still?

So...you want the guy that shoots you to have a high capacity magazine so he do more damage. Got it.

I believe what he is saying is that legally, an assault rifle can not have high capacity, so why out law them. They have no more destructive power, under the law, then any other gun. Those who ignore the high capacity magazines are not likely to obey the ban. The argument makes sense, except that just as easily it can be stated that one you have the gun you can easily exchange chambers. Someone could more easily hide the magazine and legally possess and transport the high capacity gun, switching out the magazine at the last moment. I am not arguing a side, just noting that if you want to restrict the ability to have a high capacity option, the ban on guns may make be a logically move. Personally I think that with millions of the so called assault rifles out in the public, moves making things illegal will have little effect. People just want to do something, even if it makes no difference. Much like the legislator who wants to up the penalty for people who commit mass shootings. Really, like the fact that most are suicidal and the penalty is almost always going to be life with no parole or the death penalty?

you still aren't understanding. Let me make it more clear. As of last year a pistol or rifle bought in Washington cannot include a magazine with the capacity exceeding 10 rounds. Youare also not able to buy the high cap. magazines here. So, in theory, a pistol and rifle will do the same exact thing. And when most of the shootings happen in this state are done with pistols, there was absolutely no reason to infringe on our second amendment right by outlawing certain makes of rifles. I hope this helps ww. "he do more damage". Hes aren't the only ones that can use firearms. Then when you cant control crime in your major cities, you decide to step on our rights. Right on time. That's what this about.

I am going to say on more thing. That our nation is so great because we do have constitutional freedom and liberties. Other countries either admire or hate us for it. Without those freedoms we become more like the ones that hate. spoon out

I don't understand the need for more than 10 rounds. But if you need more I suppose you could buy more clips. I have one extra clip for my '06, (which I have never had to use) and zero clips for my .50 caliber black powder.

What I don't want is a people telling me what I should or shouldn't have or what makes sense, I can make up my own mind. Magazine and rifle bans aren't going to prevent mass shootings any more than the war on drugs has reduced crime and addiction.