smoking previously frozen fish

Posted by: fromcuthroattosteelies

smoking previously frozen fish - 06/03/02 09:20 PM

Should it really make THAT big of a difference. A couple of weeks ago spent the weekend at the Cowlitz and brought home 3 steelhead and two springer jacks. Smoked em' up the next day without freezing them and they turned out simply phenomenal. Last weekend I froze 2 steelhead and smoked them yesterday and they turned out horrible even though they were only in the freezer for a week. I catch all of my fish on the weekends so I usually always have to freeze them before I can find the time to smoke them. How long will a fresh fish last in the refrigerator? Maybe I could leave them there for a while and then smoke them without ever having to freeze them. HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!Smoked fish is sooooo good when done right.
Thanks
Cuthroat
Posted by: FishCatcher

Re: smoking previously frozen fish - 06/03/02 09:32 PM

I always vacuum seal my fish and freeze it. I wait until I have enough to fill my smoker or I decide to take a day off from fishing. I prefer to freeze it before I smoke it. It always comes out good. Just my opinion but I freeze it to kill any bugs and think it opens the pores more to soak in the brine.
Posted by: escapee

Re: smoking previously frozen fish - 06/03/02 10:48 PM

I agree with fishcatcher, freezing didn't ruin your fish, it was something else. I think freezing it before hand helps.
Posted by: desertdrifter

Re: smoking previously frozen fish - 06/04/02 12:01 AM

If you dont have a vacume packer put youre fish in a ziplock bag fill it with water and get all the air out and most of the water. I always fillet my fish first but you will have to cut them up into managable size. To thaw: put them in the sink full of COLD water the faster they thaw the better as long as they dont get warm. I personaly think this is better than a vacume packer, but what do I know. this my tried and true method hope it helps.
Posted by: silver hilton

Re: smoking previously frozen fish - 06/04/02 12:43 AM

Answer to question 1, how does freezing affect smoked fish? If you freeze the fish before brining it, it breaks the cells down a bit, and the fish takes the brine a lot faster. I brine fresh fish 6 to 8 hours, frozen fish about 2 to 3 hours for the same affect.

Answer to question number 2, how long can you keep fish in the fridge? I think fish that has been in the fridge, not frozen, for more than four days, tops, is liable to start getting skanky. I generally try to do something to the fish within 48 hours, either cook it, brine it, or freeze it.
Posted by: RiverLiver

Re: smoking previously frozen fish - 06/04/02 10:55 AM

I have found that I get a better smoked flavor if the fish is frozen first ( vacuum sealed) S.H. is right the cells break down and the brine and smoke is more readily absorbed. I almost always freeze my fish for a week or so before smoking.
Posted by: chumsalmon

Re: smoking previously frozen fish - 06/04/02 10:55 AM

I'm with silver hilton on this one, if i smoke my frozen fish, then i'll cut the brine recipie in half, and brine for the same amount of time. it always turns out just fine. Or as SH suggested just brine for a shorter period of time.
I to still freeze all my fish in water, i have yet to afford a vacume packer, but that is my next purchase. will save on my frezzer space laugh
Posted by: Timber

Re: smoking previously frozen fish - 06/04/02 11:08 AM

What I like to do is if I know I am going to be smoking it is mix my wet brine and pour it into big zip lock bags with the fish before I freeze it..I have found this turns out the best for me..

I've never tried it but I bet a guy could sprinkle dry brine over it then vaccum pack. That might work out well to..


TM
Posted by: MasterBaiter

Re: smoking previously frozen fish - 06/04/02 12:31 PM

I agree that about 4-5 days in the fridge is the limit. You should keep the fish from soaking in the drippings so you want to drain the container often, this will slow down the stenching process. I will even rinse periodically and pat dry.

2 weeks in the freezer is nowhere near long enough to produce negative affects to your catch!

One suggestion when freezing is to leave the fish in roast form rather than fillets. This will leave less flesh surface area exposed to the detrimental dry refrigerated air that sucks the moisture out causing freezer burn. Also if you are vacuum sealing, it is easier to get a reliable seal since there are less bones exposed that ultimately create pin hole punctures in the vacuum bags.

IMHO, steelhead does not smoke as well as salmon anyway! It does not have nearly the amount of oil content producing a drier fare.

Hope this helps!

Thomas Pate