Washington Initiative 1183

I have no idea how I’ll vote this one…

Quite frankly when I was a kid we had no problem getting whiskey…so if it was that easy then, it must be just as easy now considering in 2009 it cost the state $500 Million annually as a result of underage drinking….and that WITH the current regulations in place. (according to the No 1183 website)

Anybody have an opinion one way or the other?

No 1183

Yes 1183

The issue of people under age 21 obtaining alcohol is distinct and separate from the issue of the state being the sole seller of hard liquor. I've been opposed to the state's liquor monopoly all my life. I-1183 isn't written particularly well since it's written to benefit its chief advocates, but I'll vote for it just to express my opinion that the state should not be in the liquor sales business. Regulation and enforcement, yeah, I'm sorta' OK with that. I'm sure that if I thought it over I'd decide against total deregulation.

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Costco is driving this with others. Here are some pictures of what Costco will look like if it is passed. I will be voting yes on this.

Looks pretty....

The ONLY chance of getting anything resembling a competitive price on booze is to have the State OUT of the liquor business.

I'm voting for it. I want some of that Costco scotch. It's made by McCallans.

Here are some more costco pictures

I love Costco. Unlike, say, Wal-Mart, Costco has a reputation for treating their employees good and paying fair wages. But I'll be damned if I am with them on this one. I have no problem with state owned liquor stores and I certainly don't want to see WSLB employees lose their jobs in this economy.

Makers Mark is my friend.

I voted yes last year and I'll vote yes again this year on I-1183.
I saw a poll recently where every county except King supporting it.

I'm waiting for the anti I-1183 commercials to come out with the little kid holding a liter of Crown. There will probably be someome smoking, a casino and a church with a big shiny cross in the background.
Save us from ourselves!!!!!!!

Here's my suprised look

I'd like to sponsor an Iniative to make King County it's own state

Indeed. My friend too. Only bourbon I buy.

either i have a case of deja vu... or we decided this last year.

this is the problem with paid signature gatherers and the corporate influence in politics. the voters clearly spoke (whether you agree or not) but the corporations behind this have the money to continue putting it on the ballot until it passes.

i'll vote no solely because i don't support initiatives that are bought and paid for by corporations. show me a initiative with grassroots support by actual citizens of this state and i'll actually consider voting yes.

the funnest thing is to ask the signature gatherer pestering you as you enter a store or waiting in line for the ferry if they are being paid. they will rarely answer the question and try all sorts of mental gymnastics to change the subject.

If that's what Costco will look like if the initiative passes, then I'd bet the gov and legislature will get what they want: higher liquor sales and more liquor tax collected. Don't they call that a win-win outcome?

Huge yes vote here.

I'll be bringing some Kirkland Vodka up from SD on Monday.

The NO on 1183 "Blood on the Asphalt" and "Collapse of Civilization as We Know It" commercials from the beer companies would almost be amusing if people weren't actually falling for them.

There are states that have drive through Margarita stands and their DUI rates aren't any greater than WA's.

Anyone Free, White, and 21 ought to be able to buy himself a bottle any time he damn well pleases anywhere he finds convenient.

drop the "White" and I'll agree.

The government and their mixed messages crack me up.

"Alcohol is bad, but here's 4000 gallons of it to get you guys through the weekend."

If hard alcohol is legal, there is no reason it shouldn't be available everywhere beer and wine is.

There goes Iries' pedestal.......it wouldn't surprise me if he did that kinda' on purpose.

Like a loser that dies of auto-erotic asphyxiation.....his barstool beside him on the floor of the closet.

tff.

Gotta love how those who are for or against something hunt around grab a stat or study then parade it out as the real deal out of context. This one is a classic example as those apposing privatization appear to being getting a little desperate.

http://www.washingtonstatewire.com/home/..._foundation.htm

That's an old, old, old, saying from back during segregation. Doesn't mean anything now.


I like how WSLCB's biggest hypocritical argument is that if 1183 passes, and this is according to WSLCB itself:

"Mini-Marts will sell to children 1 in 4 times"

WA state Voter's pamphlet:

"Mini Mart Loop hole
1183 is another flawed measure designed to benefit the big chains, not the public. It gives big chains an unfair competitive advantage over small grocers, while a major loophole will allow mini-marts to sell liquor across much of the state."

Wait! Which is it WSLCB? Does it benefit big chains OR mini-marts??