"There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax."
-Romney
Interesting, seeing as how 8 of the top 10 states with the highest percentage of filers who didn't pay any federal income tax voted for the GOP presidential candidate in 2008 and will likely do so again: Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana, South Carolina, Arkansas, and Idaho (GO VANDALS!). Mitt, it seems as though there are more than a few GOP voters who are "dependent" on government as well,
Please don't screw up the GOP's argument with facts!
Fishy
Mitt Romney, Class Warrior
When you think of class warfare, you probably think of inciting anger, resentment and jealousy among the have-nots against the haves. That’s what Mr. Romney has accused Mr. Obama of doing, but those charges have always been false. The truth is that Mr. Romney has been trying to incite the anger of a small slice of the richest Americans who need no government assistance but get it anyway, against the working poor, the elderly, the disabled workers and veterans, and even a significant chunk of middle-class Americans.
-Last paragraph and oh so true-
The right wing has long been whining about people who don’t pay taxes and who therefore don’t deserve a say in government. They have it exactly backward. The shame is not that those people don’t pay income taxes. The shame is how many poor people there are when the top 1 percent can amass uncountable fortunes fed by tax breaks and can donate tens of millions of dollars to political candidates to keep it that way.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/opinion/mitt-romney-class-warrior.html?_r=0Fishy
Actually Hank, my post was not about welfare recipients; it was about tax return filers who paid no federal income tax. These are the people Romney referred to as "dependents." Your source is about a different issue. I did not claim these people were or are "dependents;" Romney did. I was trying to illustrate Romney's error in the actual demographics of the people he was deriding as moochers.
Romney said these people are "dependents" I did not; not sure what else I need to say. It's your guy's quote.
I can see why this is called "The Dark Side."
Mitt Romney, Class Warrior
When you think of class warfare, you probably think of inciting anger, resentment and jealousy among the have-nots against the haves. That’s what Mr. Romney has accused Mr. Obama of doing, but those charges have always been false. The truth is that Mr. Romney has been trying to incite the anger of a small slice of the richest Americans who need no government assistance but get it anyway, against the working poor, the elderly, the disabled workers and veterans, and even a significant chunk of middle-class Americans.
-Last paragraph and oh so true-
The right wing has long been whining about people who don’t pay taxes and who therefore don’t deserve a say in government. They have it exactly backward. The shame is not that those people don’t pay income taxes. The shame is how many poor people there are when the top 1 percent can amass uncountable fortunes fed by tax breaks and can donate tens of millions of dollars to political candidates to keep it that way.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/opinion/mitt-romney-class-warrior.html?_r=0Fishy
Fishy, Do you remember when Reagan laid a copy of the tax code on the lecturn? That was between 1980-1988
Reagan had the Senate, I think for a total of two years. Thats it.
Republicans took over in 1995 January. And again in 2010 but not completely. Below is the ERA that Democrats controlled both the House and Senate.
1981 97 Senate 53 Rep House 244 Democrats
1980 96th Congress Senate 58 democrats House 277 Democrats
1955 84th Senate 47+1 Dem House 232 Democrats
If you dont like the tax cuts for the rich, blame democrats
Rush Limbaugh: America's Biggest Welfare Recipient
The OxyMoron, Rush Limbaugh, is always bitching and moaning about welfare recipients (and, indeed, he slams any working person who gets any kind of assistance from the government).
But note that Rush only has a problem with poor people who get welfare. Exempt from his criticism are the rich, the politically-connected, and the corporations, who really collect most of the welfare in this country.
Indeed, the military war profiteers get vastly more welfare than all America's poor people combined. I mean, how many billions of dollars in closed, no-bid contracts did Halliburton alone receive in the Iraq War? And they're merely one of the pig-like, greedy corporations with their snouts at the trough of the bloated, wasteful Military Industrial Complex.
http://www.beggarscanbechoosers.com/2009/12/rush-limbaugh-americas-biggest-welfare.htmlFishy
How Farm Subsidies Became America's Largest Corporate Welfare Program
With the House and Senate close to agreeing on a new $171 billion farm bill, the time is right to take a fresh look at farm policy to ensure that taxpayers are getting their money's worth.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports...welfare-programFishy
Rush Limbaugh: America's Biggest Welfare Recipient
The OxyMoron, Rush Limbaugh, is always bitching and moaning about welfare recipients (and, indeed, he slams any working person who gets any kind of assistance from the government).
But note that Rush only has a problem with poor people who get welfare. Exempt from his criticism are the rich, the politically-connected, and the corporations, who really collect most of the welfare in this country.
Indeed, the military war profiteers get vastly more welfare than all America's poor people combined. I mean, how many billions of dollars in closed, no-bid contracts did Halliburton alone receive in the Iraq War? And they're merely one of the pig-like, greedy corporations with their snouts at the trough of the bloated, wasteful Military Industrial Complex.
http://www.beggarscanbechoosers.com/2009/12/rush-limbaugh-americas-biggest-welfare.htmlFishy
Your blog has some issues with the facts. Limbaugh does not own the radio station or network. So whether its CBS, ABC or FOX they are the guys responsible for the bill. What any radio host, including Alan Combs, or Air America are paid is irrelevant on the issue of the value of the public air waves. Im not even sure they are or were ever free. He just says they are. But in all fairness, lets just assume the millions paid to Howard Stern were a rip off to the taxpayer. Furthermore, the poor in America are not on their own. With all the social programs, the poor are rich compare to the poor in other countries. Most have cars, two TV's and if you get around much, a lot of folks are obese. The proof is in the yard signs. Go look. All the neighborhoods with the least valued neighborhoods are posting signs for democrats. Little good it does them.
The proof is in the yard signs. Go look. All the neighborhoods with the least valued neighborhoods are posting signs for democrats. Little good it does them.
I take it you've never been to Kansas?
Rush Limbaugh: America's Biggest Welfare Recipient
The OxyMoron, Rush Limbaugh, is always bitching and moaning about welfare recipients (and, indeed, he slams any working person who gets any kind of assistance from the government).
But note that Rush only has a problem with poor people who get welfare. Exempt from his criticism are the rich, the politically-connected, and the corporations, who really collect most of the welfare in this country.
Indeed, the military war profiteers get vastly more welfare than all America's poor people combined. I mean, how many billions of dollars in closed, no-bid contracts did Halliburton alone receive in the Iraq War? And they're merely one of the pig-like, greedy corporations with their snouts at the trough of the bloated, wasteful Military Industrial Complex.
http://www.beggarscanbechoosers.com/2009/12/rush-limbaugh-americas-biggest-welfare.htmlFishy
Your blog has some issues with the facts. Limbaugh does not own the radio station or network. So whether its CBS, ABC or FOX they are the guys responsible for the bill. What any radio host, including Alan Combs, or Air America are paid is irrelevant on the issue of the value of the public air waves. Im not even sure they are or were ever free. He just says they are. But in all fairness, lets just assume the millions paid to Howard Stern were a rip off to the taxpayer. Furthermore, the poor in America are not on their own. With all the social programs, the poor are rich compare to the poor in other countries. Most have cars, two TV's and if you get around much, a lot of folks are obese. The proof is in the yard signs. Go look. All the neighborhoods with the least valued neighborhoods are posting signs for democrats. Little good it does them.
Sorry LB, not my blog.
Fishy
Cool. I actually got a response to something I posted in response to the blog that you apparently think is valid.
The proof is in the yard signs. Go look. All the neighborhoods with the least valued neighborhoods are posting signs for democrats. Little good it does them.
I take it you've never been to Kansas?
No, but you might have a point. Ive driven a lot thru Nevada and a lot of dirt poor towns were supporting Sharon Angle.
Good to know, that some of them want a better life, not a better handout.
The proof is in the yard signs. Go look. All the neighborhoods with the least valued neighborhoods are posting signs for democrats. Little good it does them.
I take it you've never been to Kansas?
No, but you might have a point. Ive driven a lot thru Nevada and a lot of dirt poor towns were supporting Sharon Angle.
Good to know, that some of them want a better life, not a better handout.
Everyone wants a better life, it's just that some realize that the board is tilted to much in favor of those with BIG dollars, millionaires, billionaires and multi-corps and that has corrupted most everything in our lives.
Fishy
Posted by: Jerry Garcia
Re: About that 47% - 09/19/12 08:37 AM
Why do we need the government to redistribute wealth, just gave $5 to a guy in the Safeway parking lot, he needed gas or bus money or food.
Posted by: BroodBuster
Re: About that 47% - 09/19/12 09:46 AM
There's a leisure class at both ends of the economic spectrum.
It's the majority of us working hard and paying our taxes in the middle who get screwed from every angle possible from every politician possible.
Ya'll are just too stupid to figure that out!!
But WTH the horse has already left the barn so please carry on with your partisan bickering
Why do we need the government to redistribute wealth, just gave $5 to a guy in the Safeway parking lot, he needed gas or bus money or food.
Redistribution has gone on for too long, there is far to much funneled to the top.
Fishy