Liberals love

Liberals love:

Tax increases
Public and free healthcare
Public and free education
Unionized labor
Equal pay for equal work
Cutting military spending
Increasing domestic and foreign aid spending
Anti-racism
Anti-sexism
Anti-homophobia

oh and this one most of all

Criticizing Bush for not making a pre-emptive strike on terrorists before 9-11, then criticizing him for making a pre-emptive strike after 9-11.


And I'll add a few of my more fav liberal dribble:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet"
--Al Gore

"President Clinton was often known as the first black president. I wouldn't be upset if I could earn the right to be the second"
--John F. Kerry

"It depends on what the meaning of the word is is. If the...if he...if is means is and never has been, that is not - that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement"
--Bill Clinton


We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance. We dont know about anything thats happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing
--Michael Moore

"I would think that if you understood what Communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communists."
--Jane Fonda

"I mean, I think, Iraqis, I think, feel that if we drove smaller cars, maybe we wouldn't have to kill them for their oil.”
--Bill Mahr - Larry King Live (November 1, 2002)

With that how could you not want to vote in the DemoRat Hero.... John F. Kerry!!! :p




Sorry I meant Lurch

I remember watching Clinton answer that "is" topic and thinking "this guy has no conscience". I would have respected him more if he had just said that he an affair, was sorry and ashamed and wanted to move on. Great liar and politician, but terrible president and human being.

So since Clinton was impeached shouldn't Bush be tried for treason?

DA

I am sooooo looking forward to the Presidential debates. After watching Kerry during Meet the Press yesterday, he was fluent, incisive and credible and didn't shy away from tough questions, like when the tape rolled from his comments after coming back from Viet Nam. Every hard question asked of Kerry he met head on, hit it squarely, if not out of the park. If you contrast that to how Bush performed on camera on the same show, he seemed slow, stamering and just not as robust.

I guess if you are handed a set of questions before they are asked and have a crew of writers who have already answered them for you I'd expect you'd do pretty good. Also, If you already think that your person has no flaws you wont see any...

Yeah, he's got that running a country distraction going on right now....

Just my impression. Maybe it's because he is new to me, but I came away inspired after listenging to him.

I too am inspired by any man that can marry into
$500,000,000 and never have a job other than politics his whole adult life.

very inspirational

Jeff,

You probably watch shows like the Westwing and think they are real also:-0

Theking, if you had actually watched the program and had something intelligent to say, then I would be happy to carry on a dialogue, but I'll pass from getting drawing into your playground level sideshow....

"I guess if you are handed a set of questions before they are asked and have a crew of writers who have already answered them for you I'd expect you'd do pretty good. Also, If you already think that your person has no flaws you wont see any..."

Funny. Bush had his people drill him with questions from a mock press corps prior to his recent press conference and he still was a total unprepared disaster. So is it he hires incompetent people, is incompetent himself or both?

By the way, marrying into money is a lot tougher than being born into it.

Stl. LOL, that was funny and a lie. There were questions from the press that he specifically stated he wish he would have known about. But, please refer to the how to argue like a lib

U made my point clearly...

Oh and it depends on what your definition of is, is... :rolleyes:

Gotta give it to you libs though. Took a thread that had nothing to do with Bush and turned it into Bashing him on his speach.. Again, refer to, How to argue like a lib

He wishes he would have known about....so your answer is he hires incompetent people. Kind of strange that the one question you refer to has been an attack issue against this administration, that they refuse to admit mistakes, and yet he wishes he would have been prepared to be asked that question?

So you admit you're a liar then... And you also blatantly posted falsely. As I have thought all along, you have got nothing but conjecture and lies. And once again you try to tell people what they said. Again, please refer to the lib page. Your great, not only a liar but post no facts... U DA

Now back to the topic.

Liberals love to make sh!t up...

Jeff,

I watched it via on NBC East coast via my dish.
The man is as belivable as Martin Sheen. He would say or do anything to get into office. His waffling is symptomatic of that condition. I judge more by actions than what someone says. What they do is much more indicative of their thought process. Kerry is a tax and spend liberal fiscally. He is a socilist on domestic policy and foreign affairs. By his actions. Just set up his MTP comments side by side with his voting record and a blind man could see the inconsistancies. He is pandering to the liberal press and on college and university campus to get votes. Ever see him at a private business that was not union to talk grass roots with the people? He wanted to be known as the second black pres. a few months back. Yet when you compare that statement with his voting record again ( pro affirmative action) you see he is really a racist like most liberals. Based on the notion that black people are incapable of suceeeding on their own they need programs pushed by rich white democratic politicians to make it. The list of inconsistancies is longer than any other candidate in history.

You aren't aging well are you?

For the record Jeff, I agree with your assessment. I thought Kerry handled the tough questions with poise and conviction and I thought he represented himself and his ideas very well.

I didn't see GWB when he was on so I can't make a fair comparison.

I think Elvis needs to pop a couple more downers and eat a fried banana sandwich... he's becoming delirious! j/k

As for Pmartin - I just know he's got to be more intelligent than he let's on...

"I thought Kerry handled the tough questions with poise and conviction "

Conviction? Conviction? are you sure? Like when Russert totaled the buget numbers and the tax savings Kerry proposes and showed him a 250billion shortfall of a balanced budget. Then Kerry said there were other creative ways to Save money that were not included in his proposal that add up to a balance budget. I would think a man of conviction would spell it all out line by line and column by column and defend it as such. Conviction ? you mean byhis answering of the question on the mysterious world leaders who want him elected? Or maybe you mean conviction like " til death do us part " in his first wedding vows? No? Maybe the conviction in his answer that his response to the Vietnam war was that of less mature individual. When 4 months ago he stood by it word for word action ofr action.

You are absolutely right King! Kerry's conviction pales in comparison to this:

President Bush's statements on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons."

United Nations address, September 12, 2002

"Iraq has stockpiled biological and chemical weapons, and is rebuilding the facilities used to make more of those weapons."

"We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have."

Radio address, October 5, 2002

"The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons."

"We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."

"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States."

"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" -- his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons."

Cincinnati, Ohio speech, October 7, 2002

"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent."

State of the Union Address, January 28, 2003

"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

Address to the nation, March 17, 2003 .


And he said it all to the American people with a straight face!


I guess judging one's conviction is subjective at best... huh?

Then there IS a difference.

Tax and Spend vs. Cut Taxes But Spend Anyway

That's a heckuva choice. Isn't American politics great?

4 salt,

Our best itelligence told him what he presented to the American people. If " imminent" turns out to be wrong then it was a mistake in intelligence, not willful intent to decieve. Iraq clearly had WMD's as agreed by the leaders of Nato and most of the UN. Iraq was clearly in violation of all the UN resolutions justification for the war. We do not know the rest of the story as of today anything condeming is premature and you would not like to be judged by the same standard on any issue. Secondly all the back seat drivers would be the first ones howling had Sadam sold WMD's to terrorist. Which we still do not know if he did or did not.

Standing up before your God, friends, family and community and the person you love more than any other and saying you will love honor and obey then a few years later going back on those very words speaks volumes about a persons character. And thaty lack of conviction shows in almost everytrhing he does except what is in the best interest of JF Kerrys ego.

King,

I repectfully disagree there. As much as we'd like to believe the fairy tale of "Till death do us part" the reality is that sometimes it just ain't possible.

Case in point:

A woman marries her High School sweetheart. Turns out he is genetically pre-disposed to alchoholism. He begins a cycle of abuse. Counseling (including religious where applicable) is tried and all reasonable methods for resolving the problems are exhausted, yet she and her children live in constant fear. Divorce is the ONLY option as I see it in this case. I know that this may be an extreme example, but my point is marriages do not necessarily last forever, especially if there are extenuating circumstances. There are millions of different scenarios that play out every day here in America. That's why we have such a high divorce rate.

Sometimes breaking the marriage vow is justified. Would you stay married to your wife if you knew she was being unfaithful?

Since we do not know what transpired in Senator Kerry's first marriage, who are we to call his character into question.

I also believe in the "Here and now". We've ALL made moral and judgemental mistakes in our lives. I would rather hear about what the future holds than what someone may have done 30 or so years in the past. Even if it supposedly reflects on their character.

Now as far as GW and the reasons for war in Iraq go, if you honestly believe: "Our best itelligence told him what he presented to the American people" then you've obviously been selectively ignoring a WHOLE lot of recent evidence to the contrary.

"Love honor and obey"...what do you know of those words? I ask you, if Kerry becomes your president will you follow him into the abyss no matter what? I wouldn't without some serious answers. If your answer is no then why do you hold others to your hypocricy?
By the way, at least Kerry mentions a "balance budget". It's a shame we have to settle for the better alternative instead of the right person but he is definitely the better of the two.

4salt,

All those things are avoidable with proper due diligence and effort. Either your word is worth something or it is not.

I don't think Laura's all that bad looking. I mean, compared to her mother-in-law ....



Oh, nevermind.

Yeah why didn't we just send Barbara into Iraq? Saddam would have surrendered instantly.

Bashing an old lady is considered polite where?

It's from the same place where you dare not bash a gay boy.... Just look over your left shoulder....It's dark, I know, but don't be scared...

I can just see Babs in a matronly dress and apron twisting Saddam's ear and dragging him through the desert.

I like Barbara Bush...I just can't help but laugh though when I remember that George W Bush is so lucky that his mom in on the one dollar bill.