First part of any good plan is "First, do no harm"...so making sure the Republicans don't get anywhere near it would be a good first step.

The TeaBaggers will get mad if you put your "hands on" their Medicare while going about the necessary business of destroying Gubmint Healthcare...be careful, you still need their votes.

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Todd

Yeah, you're right. It's far better to ignore it and hope it goes away. Who needs leadership on such a trivial issue anyway? The best plan is to demagogue and misrepresent it. "Destroying Medicare as we know it" has a nice ring to it.

No, that's just the first step...but color me surprised that you'd just make up the rest.

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Todd

It's surprising to me you haven't heard the "destroying......" yet. Debbie "Home Perm" Wasserman Schultz was all over the airwaves with it yesterday.

Here's a recap for ya. She's more into the "end Medicare", rather than "destroy Medicare".

Well, considering that's what the right wingers would like to do to Medicare (and any number of other "entitlement" programs), why would you have a problem with anyone saying it?

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Todd

P.S. Saying they want to "fix" it does not make it so...when the "fix" is to whittle it down to nothing so that it costs nothing and helps no one.

Well, that should be more of an incentive for the Dimowits to devise a plan of their own. You know, lay their ideas out there and come to some sort of compromise.

Don't you think that would be a better approach?

If nothing is done about the funding for Medicare it will end, no matter what party is in power.

Compromise? With Republicans in Congress?

Are you fuckin kidding me?

You have been watching them for the past three years, right?

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Todd

That's plain for anyone to see. The vid shows the Dims don't have any solution and they'd prefer to talk smak about the Ryan plan. Who knows? It's such a politically charged issue they know whatever they say or any solution they have could possibly lose them the election. Maybe Obama has something up his sleeve, but it's as toxic for him as Ryan's ideas are for the Repubs. He's said no amount of tax increase will help, but hasn't said what he thinks will help.

Which brings me back to my original point. How can you compromise anything if you have nothing to compromise with?

Well the last three years sucked on many levels as to congress. Not a fan of the R House but the with Reid refusing to bring anything forward from the Senate side after the 2010 election and pass it so it goes to conference to reach the middle it is not surprising.

So if you did not like the last three then your gonna love the next four. Odds are the Senate will be R as well as the House with the current Prez still hanging in. Not that bad though as Clinton was at his best with the R's in the majority and lord he had the Newt to deal with. He did have to give up cigars as they were bad for ........ his health?

Second term for any President is about the legacy they leave and not being bound to their bases be it D or R and reelection. If history is a guide and BO wins he will in all likelihood govern much differently. Now that is the crap shoot as the current President is not a Bill Clinton.