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#972450 - 02/02/17 07:54 AM Re: The end of Grays Harbor fisheries as we know them? [Re: eyeFISH]
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Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
My in-laws had a solar hot water heater in Seattle and the damn thing worked pretty well. We looked at solar here at our new place but the neighboring trees made it marginal.

Our kids new house in Irvine CA has solar electricity on the roof plus sub-irrigation for water. Like Rivrguy says, it is amazing he places we aren't using it. Like Hawaii.

One of the key things that we need to deal with is the continuity of supply. There are some situations (hospitals, air traffic control, etc) where we must have reliable power 60/60/24/7/365. That means really huge batteries or some options for when the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine. Certainly not insurmountable, but we must think.

We also need to understand that until we get breeder reactors and other Star Trek advances that we will need fossil fuels. And we will have to make choices. You want to burn that gas in your boat chasing salmon on the Big Blue or save that petroleum for the (say) Navy and Zoomies.

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#972467 - 02/02/17 01:13 PM Re: The end of Grays Harbor fisheries as we know them? [Re: eyeFISH]
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Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
I just called the PUD in Grays Harbor, ask their opinion on a "made up" situation where money was no object, which source of heat would be the best in Grays Harbor...

1. Her choice would be "gas" but the limiting factor here is, gas is not available everywhere.

2. There is a "new type" of heat pump, that is better than the heat pumps that have been around for years. These use ductwork.

3. Ductless heat/cooling units, I have 2 of these......not the best looking but they work "GREAT".

Geo thermal, which was and is used, but Bonneville has not found them to be "cost effective" so there is no rebate program!!!!!!

We talked about baseboard.....but it was all negative...

I like my "ductless units" but I also have an insert......my house has been perfect the past few weeks!!!!
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#979514 - 09/05/17 02:53 PM Re: The end of Grays Harbor fisheries as we know them? [Re: eyeFISH]
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Well it's finally come full circle and thought folks deserved an update.... CRUDE OIL IN GH IS DEAD!

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/aug/30/crude-oil-no-longer-in-plans-port-of-grays-harbor-/
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