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#964794 - 09/24/16 04:12 PM Throw down guns....
RICH G
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Do most of you think these are fairy tales? Well they aren't. Heard it talked about from time to time....

Looking more and more like this is what happened in Charlotte unfortunately.


Edited by RICH G (09/24/16 04:25 PM)

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#964795 - 09/24/16 04:30 PM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
RICH G
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I just can't trust any government these days, evidence is started to flow on the MSM that Obama was complicent with Hillary's private server crimes. WTF, how bad can things get. We need a coup, this corrupt fraudulent government needs to be gone and there seems to be no procedural means to do it. I think the Military needs to step in, either that or citizens need to exercise their right to overthrow a corrupt treasonous government.

One way or another it needs to get done, I'm afraid there are just too many turds in the punch bowl and there is just no possible way electing Trump can fix this...

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#964796 - 09/24/16 04:39 PM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
RowVsWade Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
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Loc: Island Time
I don't think that is what happened in Charlotte. I think he had a gun, didn't follow commands and was shot. The problem I have in general is that if anyone that has contact with the cops has a gun in their possession (legally or illegally) the cops think that their only course of action is to kill. The fear and insecurities that are pervasive in LEO today is pathetic and antithetical to keeping the public safe. There's a major need in this country to reform law enforcement from top to bottom. Just google Jack Yantis and the complete sh.itshow that the pigs caused. If you're not angry enough after reading the reports just check out the history and reputation of the 2 pigs that murdered that Idaho rancher in his front yard.

As for "drop guns" I know an old timer Seattle cop that said back in the 60's and 70's it wasn't uncommon for a lot of cops to have a plant gun that they'd taken off some "criminal". I think that with cameras everywhere now it's tougher to do it. Besides all a cop has to do anymore is to say they feared for their life. That's the "kill a person and get out of jail free" card. Modern day cops get away with murder regularly and if the criminal justice system doesn't get its sh.it together, there's going to be a lot of dead cops in the future. Not to mention traffic nightmares for the state sponsored funerals that generally annoy the living sh.it out of me.
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#964797 - 09/24/16 05:04 PM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
LocalTalent Offline
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Registered: 06/30/14
Posts: 137
Originally Posted By: RICH G
Do most of you think these are fairy tales? Well they aren't. Heard it talked about from time to time....

I've heard gnomes and interdimensional portals talked about from time to time.

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#964801 - 09/24/16 05:42 PM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
RICH G
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Tell ya what, I saw the cop body cam vid and it does not help the cops case at all.

Nothing on the tape shows a gun, or one on the ground. Police procedure is to secure the suspect first and then make the gun safe by ejecting the round in the chamber, releasing the magazine and then locking back the slide if possible. The photos show a loaded 1911 on the ground which is not how it would be. You have to understand that the scene is not secure after the suspect has been subdued, his wife is still on scene and still needs to be perceived as a potential hostile threat, if that's how it really happened the cops would have never left a loaded gun on the ground.

Looks to me like they planted that [Bleeeeep!], the cops lie all the time, fabricate whatever they need to to protect image and civil liability. That's the way it is and always has been done. Most cops are nothing more than functional retards with common sense, easily controlled and manipulated due to their general train wrecks of personal lives.

I know my words are harsh but unfortunately, it is what it is. You people need to wake up, the problem is systemic. Darn near every officer involved shooting I was a part of had some sort manipulated investigation to put the police actions in a better light, made me sick and ultimately made me have to walk away. Every law enforcement agency in this country has to lie on a weekly basis in order to not get sued..

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#964802 - 09/24/16 06:11 PM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
RICH G
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I agree with you RvsW, we need reform of the entire criminal justice system, from the courts to the streets.

I am hard on the cops, because I was on the inside and know how dirty it is, I don't wish ill will on them but their own arrogance and pride is causing all this trouble. When have any of them come out and said, "we were wrong, we need to do better, we need to hold dirty cops accountable, we need to repair our relationships with society, we need to do what it takes to allow the public to trust us again". It never happens...

Instead of running honest cops out of town and protecting corrupt activities maybe they should start cleaning house instead of alienating and attempting to destroy whistleblowers.

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#964804 - 09/24/16 06:28 PM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
RICH G
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Something else obvious I need to point out,

How many cops on scene? how many different angles of body cam footage? They showed the footage they did to put them in the best light possible, and it didn't do a very good job, which is why they were reluctant to show anything. How come no footage being shown which shows the gun? Why only still photos? The gun is the second biggest threat/priority on scene, #1 after the suspect is neutralized... No way would they allow that gun to lay on the ground loaded, it would have never happened.... Do you think they would take the time to photograph the gun before securing it at an unsecured scene,,,,, nope... Securing the scene is the number one priority under all circumstances to protect their own lives and the public's, documentation of the evidence is secondary... If it was legit the photo would have showed an unloaded made safe gun...

While guys were securing the suspect someone else would have unloaded that gun and made it safe at the same time or as soon as possible..

I'm only pointing out the obvious.


Edited by RICH G (09/24/16 06:29 PM)

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#964806 - 09/24/16 07:10 PM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
BroodBuster Offline
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Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 3113
Loc: Bothell, Wa
Welcome back Rich.

Now be a good American and watch some football smile!
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#964847 - 09/25/16 09:57 AM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
RICH G
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I won't name names but, 6 officer involved shootings occurred in agencies I worked for when I was a cop. out of that 6, I was involved in the investigation of 5. Out of the six 2 were completely legit and involved no lying to my knowledge, I pulled the trigger in none of them. Other agencies were complicit in the investigation of all of them and had no problem going along with whatever, infact they helped strategise.

Pretty fu$%king sick if you ask me and all, "if you scratch my back I'll scratch yours"..... believe it!!!!

So that's the only pool I have to draw from to form an opinion, 66% of officer involved shootings are probably dirty. I'll tell ya the FBI and justice department knows all about this and they could give a f%&k, they have their own shootings and other curruption to help coverup.


Edited by RICH G (09/25/16 10:03 AM)

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#964871 - 09/26/16 06:54 AM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
RICH G
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The more I talk the safer I am..... the risk is if somthing suspiciously happens to me not me running my mouth.

It's like this, me talking is the price they pay for what they did, as far as I am concerned they just have to take it....

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#964872 - 09/26/16 06:55 AM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
RICH G
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And honestly, I only talk here so who really gives a crap, it's not like I have a blog or podcast.

And another obvious point is that thousands of people know who I am and what happened, some work in the media, some write books, some make TV shows and some make movies, my story is really interesting and if I get suspiciously taken out, people are gonna do somthing about it and the story will get way bigger than it ever was.

I'm sure as far as they are concerned it's better to just keep me as a guy who has an interesting story about the criminal justice system, but don't forget he believes in bigfoots and Gnomes.

If somthing happens to me the story becomes infamous.

I don't talk specifics and I don't name names, but I don't do that because I couldnt.


Edited by RICH G (09/26/16 07:31 AM)

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#964910 - 09/26/16 04:47 PM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
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Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 16138
Rich, sounds like you're going off the deep end, seek some help and enjoy life, not being mean, just some friendly advice.


Edited by Sol Duc (09/26/16 05:32 PM)
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#964915 - 09/26/16 05:08 PM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
RICH G
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Unfortunately it is as bad as I say, inconveniently for you I am still in the shallow end.

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#965547 - 10/06/16 06:51 PM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
RICH G
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Has anybody watched the full video?

If you have can you see how that whole thing was obviously a major F#$k up?

Why are those cops rendering half assed aid to this guy for like 13 minutes? Where is the ambulance and medical staff? Do you think they would have waited that long to get medical staff on scene if it was one of them?

Last but not least where is the gun? Or should I say what gun.....

That was a complete abortion from start to finish..

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#965550 - 10/06/16 08:18 PM Re: Throw down guns.... [Re: ]
Piper
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Originally Posted By: RICH G

That was a complete abortion from start to finish..

It was an abortion all right... a 50 year old retro-active abortion at that...

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