Ferry boat and recreational boat collide

Posted by: Todd

Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/06/16 06:14 PM

I thought this was already posted here, but can't find it if it was...this was on the Pt. Defiance to Vashon run yesterday.



Fish on...

Todd
Posted by: bushbear

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/06/16 07:11 PM

Lucky it wasn't worse. Hope some paper can be hung on the skipper.
Posted by: DrifterWA

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/06/16 07:33 PM

I saw this on the news last night....didn't have the vocabulary, vocabulary added to the video....

Originally Posted By: bushbear
Lucky it wasn't worse. Hope some paper can be hung on the skipper.


I'll bet that person needed "more than roll of paper", to clean themselves up....wow................

I know the paper you were talking about.......
Posted by: Speyguy

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/06/16 08:26 PM

You could'nt manufacture a better name of boat for a news story....Pretty sure he had an old cassette tape of "Asleep at the wheel" playin route 66...ha
Posted by: fishbadger

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/06/16 09:18 PM

I know that guy, can't wait to ask WTF he was doing, or maybe he was getting done!

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Posted by: GodLovesUgly

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/07/16 04:04 PM

Rumors I've seen flying are he was down below in the head taking a sh!t.
Posted by: Todd

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/07/16 04:31 PM

That would be a good time to take the boat out of gear if there is no one above decks to drive, I think.

Fish on...

Todd
Posted by: Wooly Bully

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/07/16 06:30 PM

The yacht clearly had the right of way. I suspect this will not end well for the ferry captain.
Posted by: BroodBuster

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/07/16 07:47 PM

^^^There is the law of tonnage^^^
Posted by: Todd

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/07/16 08:11 PM

I think there are about six applicable rules, and they are quite in conflict.

Plus, at the end if the day, it's just stupid to put your boat on auto pilot and go below deck and drop a deuce with no one else onboard.

Fish on...

Todd
Posted by: Larry B

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/07/16 09:42 PM

The Flying Deuceman? Sounds vaguely familiar....

Truly stupid and avoidable.
Posted by: ColeyG

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/07/16 10:06 PM

I believe the coast guard calls that "failure to maintain a proper lookout." It's a good catch-all for general dumbfuckery.
Posted by: Todd

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/07/16 10:09 PM

Originally Posted By: ColeyG
I believe the coast guard calls that "failure to maintain a proper lookout." It's a good catch-all for general dumbfuckery.


Yes. This.

Fish on...

Todd
Posted by: NickD90

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/08/16 12:08 AM

Damn - what an idiot. Glad he's ok to carry on with his life as an idiot.

So what are the laws on both sides here? I can't possibly imagine that the Ferry Captain would be in trouble if the guy really had it on auto pilot whilst shatting?

Lastly, just how manueverable COULD a ferry actually be? Serious question. What is the protocol for the Ferry Captain in this case? Just run a sport boat over OR a hard wheel crank and slam it in reverse? What about the people and cars onboard?

If it were me, I'd just run em' over. It thins the herd and doesn't spill my passengers drinks.
Posted by: Old Kelpie

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/10/16 01:46 PM

Incredible! Maybe it was all that fog or ruff seas? Glad no one was injured or loss of a vessel.
Posted by: GoldDigger

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/11/16 03:46 PM

Not a boater..what is the law in this case?

Seems reasonable the little guy needs to get out of the way of the larger,
less maneuverable boat. But then, common sense is not always evident in laws.
Posted by: ned

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/11/16 03:51 PM

May well be the yachts mistake....but you'd think the ferry would have seen this guy 2 miles out from the wheelhouse, and with dual radar, and 3 in the wheelhouse. We all yield at some time, regardless of who's legally correct.
That, plus I'm just pissed at the WSF arrogance and ripping off my tax money in OT, and the 28% raise they get this year (if legislation approves it.)
Posted by: Keta

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/11/16 11:55 PM



Rule 15 - Crossing Situation

(a) When two power-driven vessels are crossing so as to involve risk of collision, the vessel which has the other on her own starboard side shall keep out of the way and shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, avoid crossing ahead of the other vessel.


Every vessel which is directed to keep out of the way of another vessel shall, so far as possible, take early and substantial action to keep well clear.

Rule 17- Action by Stand-on Vessel

(a) (i) Where one of two vessels is to keep out of the way, the other shall keep her course and speed.
(ii) The latter vessel may, however, take action to avoid collision by her maneuver alone, as soon as it becomes apparent to her that the vessel required to keep out of the way is not taking appropriate action in compliance with these Rules.

(b) When, from any cause, the vessel required to keep her course and speed finds herself so close that collision cannot be avoided by the action of the give-way vessel alone, she shall take such action as will best aid to avoid collision.

(c) A power-driven vessel which takes action in a crossing situation in accordance with Rule 17(a)(ii) to avoid collision with another power-driven vessel shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, not alter course to port for a vessel on her own port side.

(d) This Rule does not relieve the give-way vessel of her obligation to keep out of the way
Posted by: supcoop

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/12/16 11:53 AM

To Todd's point about violations, believe the yacht broke two. Failure to maintain lookout and violation of 33 cfr 165.1317 (violation of security zones established for passenger ferries). The ferry skipper will likely be held accountable as well for not taking proper actions to avoid collision. The ferries can fall under the "restricted in their ability to maneuver" category if they are in a narrow channel giving them the right of way. This does not appear to be the case in this incident. Be interesting to know how it plays out. Glad no one was hurt.
Posted by: Todd

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/12/16 02:18 PM

That full reverse looked like it was either right at or right after the moment of impact...a few degrees course change to the starboard and that yacht would have cruised right off the bow and no collision.

Plenty of fault to go around here, I think...but really, no matter how it works out legally, the yacht skipper really screwed the pooch on this one, and is lucky his boat didn't sink and he didn't drown.

Fish on...

Todd
Posted by: OnFish

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/12/16 04:34 PM

My father was killed in a boating accident in October 2012 fishing for silvers out of shilshoe 2 riggers down no real course of action for him to take . A very large pleasure boat with speed to match basically ran right over the top of him and his long time fishing partner !! the laws are very tricky to say the least !!!!! to all boaters out there PLEASE keep an eye on your surroundings and the others around you !!!!! RIP !!! My father Don Hatch
Posted by: blackmouth

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/12/16 06:29 PM

I hold your father and his fishing partner blameless, yet sadly they are gone. Life is oh so precious and very fragile, it can be gone in the blink of an eye.

As far as the situation that the video shows, the skipper of the Yacht shares blame with the skipper of the Ferry boat " Chetzemoka" I have been in situations where I, or people around me were inactive, mentally gathering information and not taking decisive action. I have witnessed these situations and yet I could find myself in a similar situation tomorrow, and hopefully I would take early and decisive action.

Take action early, and if you're wrong and you have wasted some effort then you will be able to consider your action at a later time.

If you take no action?
Posted by: toobad

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/13/16 05:36 AM

How much money have we spent, in tax dollars, to keep a terrorist from doing this very same thing?
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northw...t-attack_t.html
Posted by: fishbadger

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/13/16 12:41 PM

Originally Posted By: toobad
How much money have we spent, in tax dollars, to keep a terrorist from doing this very same thing?
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northw...t-attack_t.html


I hear what you're saying but seriously, to extrapolate this mistake into regulatory change, and establish no-craft periphery zones for state ferrys, and invest in the resource to enforce them, would be gross overkill. . .just for a guy grinding out an ill-timed deuce.

No need to pull any more alarms.

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Posted by: Carcassman

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/13/16 01:55 PM

and, as the Captain of the ferry just how do you know (from the video) that is doing a deuce? I must have missed something in the video.
Posted by: fishbadger

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/13/16 05:59 PM

I'm sorry, I think you lost me there. . .

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Posted by: Carcassman

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/13/16 06:27 PM

It sounded like you were saying that the current terror by boat rules and enforcement are sufficient. That guy just showed they aren't.
Posted by: Dan S.

Re: Ferry boat and recreational boat collide - 12/13/16 07:17 PM

You mean no matter how many laws are put in place, we might not always be safe?

The horror.



"grinding out an ill timed deuce" made me laff.