The true history of Washingtons salmon...
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/17/22 07:21 AM
And eradication of the native peoples prior to settlement... Hudson Bay company,, British Royal Navy and US Navy... Between around 1800 and 1840... They came in to this area and wiped out the native populations with small pox blankets... All up and down the coast north of the Columbia river and in the Puget Sound... Written out of history,,, still writing it out of history..
"Fort Discovery" established around 1820,, US Navy fort in Discovery Bay Washington,, used for human trafficking and building ships... "Slave Trade" written out of history...
You people have no idea...
Where do you think the fish went and when? You have no idea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jacob_Astor_IV#:~:text=Astor%20died%20in%20the%20sinking%20of%20the%20RMS,died%20%28equivalent%20to%20%242.33%20billion%20in%202020%29.%20Contents
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/17/22 07:23 AM
Posted by: Get Bent
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/17/22 02:38 PM
BitChute is an alt-tech video hosting service launched by Ray Vahey in January 2017. It is known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hate speech.
Dude you you’re the one drinking the koolaide. Take this crap some other place or do us all a favor and end your suffering personally.
Posted by: seabeckraised
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/17/22 05:16 PM
Yeah, not sure what this accomplishes man. Yes, some horrible things happened in the past, but this is no different than the people crying we’re on “occupied land.” If that’s the case, leave. To me, you’re basically rubbing it in to the native american’s collective faces.
Posted by: On The Swing
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/17/22 07:47 PM
Since when are you all about historical accuracy and accountability rich?
Posted by: Flatbrim Pescador
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 09:44 AM
The smallpox blankets are a myth. Just part of a leftist fictional narrative. There was a pre-contact smallpox outbreak all over the pacific northwest, it was widespread in the Western North American Indian tribes at the time. Many Columbia Plateau tribes traveled west of the Rocky Mountains to seasonally hunt buffalo and brought it back. There was no slave trade out of Discovery Bay, no shipyard, just a lumber mill for export.
Just a few things that were written into history:
1770-1775 - Smallpox decimates 30% of the Pacific Northwest native population
1788 - Robert Gray sails to Vancouver Island and encounters Indians with smallpox scars, this is the first American exploration North of the Columbia
1792 - Vancouver's expedition encounters Indians with smallpox scars, this is the first British exploration of the Puget Sound area
1806 - Lewis and Clark encounter Indians with smallpox scars
1807 - British parliament bans the slave trade
1838 - First US Navy mission to the Puget Sound, the Wilkes expedition, anchors at Discovery Bay also known as PORT Discovery (not Fort).
1858 - Lumber Mill established at Discovery Bay, the first industry there that did not build ships but export lumber
1986 - Joe D'Amico, a former police officer, created "Fort Discovery" at Discovery Bay, a private sector military training camp
Posted by: Carcassman
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 11:22 AM
Be careful how one defines "pre-contact". There were Europeans on the Pacific Coast from the early 1500s. But, even so, there is good evidence that the diseases, especially smallpox, travelled east to west. So while the local indigenous folks may not have directly contacted Europeans, they received the European bugs as they were passed across the continent.
Posted by: Flatbrim Pescador
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 12:06 PM
I'm defining pre-contact as before the "Hudson Bay company, British Royal Navy and US Navy" made contact with the tribes "up and down the coast north of the Columbia river and in the Puget Sound." If I was talking about prior to the 1500's, I would have said "pre-Columbian." Most likely smallpox spread in the Pacific Northwest by 1520 from Indian to Indian contact but this is not conclusively proven. What is conclusively proven is nobody was handing out smallpox blankets "up and down the coast north of the Columbia river and in the Puget Sound" and certainly not "Hudson Bay company, British Royal Navy and US Navy."
Posted by: Paul Smenis
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 12:27 PM
:yawn:
Posted by: Todd
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 01:01 PM
My favorite part is how Rich writes it, quoting from a right wing conspiracy fruitcake site, and FHP calls it a "leftist fictional narrative".
Fish on...
Todd
Posted by: 5 * General Evo
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 01:48 PM
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/plag/5240451.0001.009/--did-the-us-army-distribute-smallpox-blankets-to-indians?rgn=main;view=fulltext
Posted by: Flatbrim Pescador
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 02:49 PM
My favorite part is how Rich writes it, quoting from a right wing conspiracy fruitcake site, and FHP calls it a "leftist fictional narrative".
Actually there is nothing in the video about smallpox, the pacific northwest, hudson bay company, the US navy, the royal navy or anything else Rich supposedly "quoted" from the right wing conspiracy fruitcake site.
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 07:59 PM
Bet you did not know there was a previous civilization even right here in the Pacific Northwest... It was buried in the mud... Many of the older buildings are older than you think and not from us...
Tartaria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdkfa8mhCi41909 worlds fair lake union... They dug that chit out of the mud...
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 08:01 PM
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 08:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj25AY9S3ykWe could barely build any of this stuff today if at all... Most of the bottom levels are underground... Why would you dig out basements with hand tools??? Because we did'nt build any of that chit...
Most every county seat has these Tartarian buildings,, who knows how old..
Huge cover up people..
You have no idea... This is all going to come out fairly soon...
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 08:07 PM
Unbelievable,, I know... Sounds crazy... These people had far more advanced tech than we do... Zero point energy,,, living waters... What happened to them?
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 08:09 PM
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 08:11 PM
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 08:13 PM
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 08:15 PM
They dug the state capitol out of the mud as well... We never built that chit... Some fake ass staged photos but that's it.. That chit was here from way before...
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 09:10 PM
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 09:20 PM
Posted by: Streamer
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 09:43 PM
Holy chit Rich. Go dig some more of those mushrooms you had a few years ago and relax a bit.
Steamy
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/18/22 10:22 PM
Posted by: Todd
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/19/22 08:35 AM
Holy chit Rich. Go dig some more of those mushrooms you had a few years ago and relax a bit.
Steamy
I think it's going to take a little more than poisoning himself to fix this.
Fish on...
Todd
Posted by: Salmo g.
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/19/22 09:35 AM
I don't understand why Rich is posting these fascinating revelations on a barely-read sport fishing forum instead of some place with an actual and widespread audience. Unless, of course, he has been banned from all other media . . .
Posted by: 20 Gage
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/19/22 10:00 AM
I don't understand why Rich is posting these fascinating revelations on a barely-read sport fishing forum instead of some place with an actual and widespread audience. Unless, of course, he has been banned from all other media . . .
Cuz there always appears to be a few active “Biters” laying in wait here to respond...
Posted by: OceanSun
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/19/22 05:47 PM
Kind of like when you're hiking down the river and just flip your bait over into a little pocket on your way by to the hole you really want to fish...
Posted by: fishkisser99
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/19/22 06:58 PM
...omg..."Will Washington's CDC/Nazi Covid Death Camps interfere with the Fauci-stein genetically-modified 5G autonomous stream side salmonoid microchip injection program?"
...lookout, Todd--squirt that buck and it might hurt! (...your portfolio of salmon-related NFTs....)
Posted by: Rivrguy
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/20/22 05:22 AM
Gentlemen I realize that there are some refugees from the Dark Side that are wandering around lost. PP is not the proper place to give them a home, move on.
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/20/22 08:48 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_Park,_Seattle
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/20/22 08:51 AM
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/20/22 09:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUyID0YMsKwgenerated its own electricity,, zero point...
The technology is represented in the architechture,,, antenna's...
Posted by: I'm Still RichG
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/20/22 09:05 AM
Posted by: On The Swing
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/20/22 12:07 PM
*YouTube is not a citeable source*
No matter how many times some goof rants into his phone and posts it.
Posted by: The Moderator
Re: The true history of Washingtons salmon... - 01/21/22 03:22 PM
I hop on this board once in a blue moon and this is the chit I get to see and deal with.
If you feel the need to post non-fishing stuff to this board, don't.
If you feel the need to talk politics, spew general mis-information about nothing to do with fishing, or just have that urge to blab about nothing even remotely related to fishing, don't do it here.
Go somewhere else.
I've put Rich back on a "one post per month" time out as I was sick of dealing with him then and I'm sick of dealing with him now.