More un-needed gun laws coming our way....

Posted by: Anonymous

More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/16/09 02:18 PM

This ones a real winner...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-45

Here is a synopsis of it from a friend of mine from another site:

Quote:
Basically this "little" piece of legislation would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

.It is registered

.You are fingerprinted

.You supply a current Driver's License

.You supply your Social Security #

.You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing

.Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25

Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.

There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Guns must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18.

The Government would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away.


OK Todd....I know they aren't knocking down any doors just yet, but after reading through the bill I can see that this is certainly a cause for concern.

Mike
Posted by: Todd

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/16/09 03:35 PM

I wouldn't really worry about it at all...there are plenty of real issues to be concerned about at this time...but just for kicks and grins, I'll give the gun grab update...

No guns of mine have been grabbed yet.

Fish on...

Todd
Posted by: Todd

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/16/09 03:44 PM

P.S. There's approximately a zero percent chance of this bill even making it out of committee, much less anywhere else...
Posted by: Dogfish

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/17/09 11:54 AM

I lost all of my guns in a boating accident. Go figure.

BTW, guns are bad, they scare me.
Posted by: Sol Duc

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/17/09 12:00 PM

Lost mine in a horrific gardening accident in 05'. cry
Posted by: murphy1

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/17/09 01:13 PM

GUN CONFISCATION IS BEGINNING !!





http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp





GUN CONFISCATION IS BEGINNING !!
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:06:20 -0500

Subject: GUN CONFISCATION IS BEGINNING-- SENATE BILL SB-2099 -

Forward Please





Subject: GUN CONFISCATION IS BEGINNING-- SENATE BILL SB-2099

HR45 Gun Owners Watch Out

Concerning the Blair-Holt proposed legislation: Senate

Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040

federal tax form all guns that you have or own.

It may require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun.

In November, our lying president promised he was not

going after our Second Amendment rights. This bill

was introduced on Feb.24.

This bill will become public knowledge 30 days

after it is voted into law. This is an amendment

to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means

that the Finance Committee can pass this without

the Senate voting on it at all.

The full text of the proposed amendment is on the

U.S. Senate homepage,


http://www.senate.gov// http://www.senate.gov/ You

can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number,

SB-2099.

You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do.

Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun

owner you know.

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text

Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation

bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals

if you don't fully comply.

It has started. Very Important for you to be aware

of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House.

This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record

of Sale Act of 2009..

Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because

the government is trying to fly it under the radar.

To find out about this - go to any government website

and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm

Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009.


You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm -

any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless: It is registered -

You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver's

License -You supply your Social Security # -You

will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any

time of their choosing -Each update change of

ownership through private or public sale must be

reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you

automatically lose the right to own a firearm and

are subject up to a year in jail. - There is a child

provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating

a child-access provision. Gun must be locked

and inaccessible to any child under 18. -They

would have the right to come and inspect that

you are storing your gun safely away from

accessibility to children and fine is punishable

for up to 5 yrs. in prison.

If you think this is a joke - go to the website and

take your pick of many options to read this.

It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people

are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along.

Any hunters in your family pass this along.

This is just a "termite" approach to complete

confiscation of guns and disarming of our society

to the point we have no defense - chip away a

little here and there until the goal is accomplished

before anyone realizes it.

This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.

If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one

to use against me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe.


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show

http://www..govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45


Please.. copy and send this out to EVERYONE in

the USA , whether you support the Right to Bear

Arms or not. YOUR rights are next. Government



is taking away our right to choose, as well as the

right to defend ourselves from intruders.

CALL YOUR SENATOR !!!!

Might not be a big deal right now, but if everyone waits till the last minute, it could become a bad deal for plenty of people.
Posted by: docspud

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/17/09 01:42 PM

Ouch, that last one was a painful read. Just looked it up and yes it is a true bill but will go no where. Not BO attempting to grab anything. Just one jerkoff's bill to likely please his base. One of those "look at what I put forward to help". It is not going anywhere. And I hate mass email for just that reason.
No need to get worked up over this one.
Posted by: Todd

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/17/09 01:49 PM

That law wouldn't confiscate anything...but it doesn't really matter, since it has one single sponsor, no co-sponsors, and will not go anywhere...it's dead before it even starts.

Also, it has nothing to do with President Obama...he didn't write it, and he won't ever see it.

Fish on...

Todd
Posted by: docspud

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 01:57 PM

That guy is nothing but a racist that hates BO because of the color of his...............O'crap.
Posted by: stlhead

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 02:03 PM

"Hope somebody buys that guy a beer!"

Yeah, if all morons would just congregate in one place. Whether legal or not it's just plain stupid.
Posted by: Timber

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: stlhead
"Hope somebody buys that guy a beer!"

Yeah, if all morons would just congregate in one place. Whether legal or not it's just plain stupid.


Care to elaborate on why? I'm not understanding your comment.....


Buy that gun totin man a beer!!!
Posted by: stlhead

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 02:23 PM

Sorry if you can't see it.

What don't you get?
You don't carry a gun around the POTUS unless you are SS or asking for it.
But it must be nice to see a pres who respects his right to do so. No way in F'ing hell would he have been able to do that around Bush.
Posted by: stlhead

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 02:26 PM

BTW, my bro in law is SS and guy's like this are one more whack job that has to be watched.
Posted by: stlhead

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 02:47 PM

You find that amusing AM? Maybe he should have exercised hs right to drive a Ryder truck as well? Maybe excercising his free speech by painting "BOMB" on the side. Carrying a sign, yelling and looking like a general idiot is one thing, no matter which way you lean, but packing a deadly weapon means you are using up SS resources that could have been used else where like maybe to stop a real threat.
Posted by: Dogfish

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 03:28 PM

Ouch!
Posted by: stlhead

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 03:31 PM

No conclusions. It's a fact and something that obviously didn't dawn on you. Cheer on idiots like that all you want but absolutely gauranteed the SS eyes were on him at all times.
So, you agree that that should be allowed or no? If so why should that be allowed? What if he were excerising his rights by being on the roof of a building with a long range, legal, rifle?
Posted by: Todd

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 04:28 PM

Exercising your right to be stupid doesn't all of a sudden make it a good idea...carrying a weapon around the POTUS is just a good way to get yourself shot, and frankly, makes all of us who own guns look like idiots.

Fish on...

Todd
Posted by: Dogfish

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 04:44 PM

I really don't think that open carry is right for me. Hunting and fishing, absolutely, but in the downtown streets, not for me.
Posted by: The Moderator

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 04:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Dogfish
I really don't think that open carry is right for me. Hunting and fishing, absolutely, but in the downtown streets, not for me.


Exactly. I don't need to see that Dogfish is packin' a .38 special snubby. smile

Posted by: The Moderator

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/18/09 04:54 PM

I could see Aunty packing a stainless steel 8" S&W .357 magnum with Packi grips. A .44 might be a bit much.....

"Do you feel lucky, punk? Well, do you? Go ahead punk. MAKE MY DAY!!!!

laugh
Posted by: Dogfish

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/19/09 03:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
Originally Posted By: Dogfish
I really don't think that open carry would have been right for me before I lost all my guns in a tragic boating accident. Hunting and fishing, absolutely, but in the downtown streets, not for me.


Yer slippin' Dogfish.......................


Not slipping, just showing my sanity. If they get to see it, they really don't want to. 14 rounds of .45ACP will be headed their way shortly, along with another 13 round reload in short order.
Posted by: BroodBuster

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/19/09 05:36 AM

I don't think the Secret Service is too worried about the guns they can see............More worried about the ones they don't know about!
Posted by: stlhead

Re: More un-needed gun laws coming our way.... - 08/19/09 12:41 PM

Never the less they are required to watch a nut like that. Just an off handed comment and they are required to pay you a visit. It's part of their job so make it easier on them by not encouraging wack jobs.