Does this guy concern you?

This guys got a few "red flags" flying, IMO. He's certainly not a fellow I would vote for, given the option.

" President Obama's "green jobs" adviser could become a mounting liability for the Obama administration, as the latest revelation about Van Jones shows his belief that the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks could have been an inside job.

Jones joined the "9/11 truther" movement by signing a statement in 2004 calling for then-New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer and others to launch an investigation into evidence that suggests "people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war."

The statement asked a series of critical questions hinting at Bush administration involvement in the attacks and called for "deeper inquiry." It was also signed by former Rep. Cynthia McKinney and Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans.

The discovery comes after Jones had to apologize Wednesday night for "offensive words" he uttered in February when he called Republicans "assholes." He said the remarks "do not reflect the views of this administration" and its bipartisan aims.

But such statements just scratch the surface of Jones' past commentary.

He also has consistently leaned on racially charged language, pointing the finger at "white polluters and the white environmentalists" for "steering poison" to minority communities, as he makes the case for lifting up low-income and minority communities with better environmental policy.

A declared "communist" during the 1990s, Jones once associated with a group that looked to Mao Zedong as an inspiration.

Jones' exceptional past is reminiscent of associations noted during the presidential campaign, when then-Sen. Barack Obama doggedly fended off claims that he was tied to radicals and overzealous activists.

But with now-President Obama entering the perhaps trickiest phase of his young presidency -- building the kind of consensus around health care reform that President Clinton could not -- a divisive figure could prove disfiguring.

"In this environment, I think the Obama administration should be very careful of its dealings with anybody who can be labeled communist accurately," said Christopher C. Hull, an adjunct government professor at Georgetown University who runs the public affairs firm Issue Management.

"That's just going to play to the political sensibility that those on the right have that the Obama administration is socialist, literally socialist. ... It is unwise to bring in people who actually do label themselves socialist or communist."

Jones has mellowed considerably since the '90s. In some respects, he is about as mainstream as environmentalists come -- with recognition pouring down from high places over the past few years.

He's won plaudits from former Vice President Al Gore, who declared, "I love Van Jones," in an interview with The New Yorker.

Actor Leonardo DiCaprio penned the write-up on Jones when the presidential adviser was featured in Time magazine's 100 "Most Influential People."

"Steadily -- by redefining green -- Jones is making sure that our planet and our people will not just survive but also thrive in a clean-energy economy," DiCaprio wrote.

Jones was also named one of the magazine's "Heroes of the Environment 2008." He's earned a slew of other recognitions from other publications and institutions. He was even named one of Salon.com's "Sexiest Men Living" in late 2008.

Plus he's the author of the 2008 New York Times best-seller, "The Green Collar Economy."

Now a member of the White House Council on Environmental Quality, his book's central premise is that environmentalism and green jobs can lift up the economy and lift up low-income Americans.

He is the founder of Green for All, which focuses on creating green jobs in poor areas. He helped the city of Oakland pass a "green jobs corps" program in 2007. Green jobs is also one platform of the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, which he co-founded in 1996.

He also co-founded Color of Change, an advocacy group that focuses on black issues, after Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

Jones' history has drifted between mainstream activism surrounding issues of race, poverty and the environment, and activity he has described as "revolutionary."

Originally from Tennessee, Jones graduated from Yale Law School in 1993. But his life took a turn after he was swept up in arrests during a rally following the Rodney King verdict.

Jones has claimed he was monitoring police activity at the time, but that he met people in jail who changed his thinking.

"I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was like, 'This is what I need to be a part of,'" he said in a 2005 interview with the East Bay Express. Jones told the newspaper he stayed in San Francisco, and for the next 10 years worked with a lot of the people he met in jail. Months after the King verdict came down, Jones said, "I was a communist."

At the time he became involved with a group called Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), which described itself as committed to Marxist and Leninist ideas. He also started putting pressure on police in San Francisco, monitoring and drawing attention to allegations of police brutality. He was quoted accusing the police department of "killing black people."

He became a vocal critic of the federal government during the Bush administration. He and groups he was associated with assailed "U.S. imperialism" after the Sept. 11 attacks and called the assumption that an Arab group was responsible a "rush to judgment." He later co-signed the petition calling for an investigation into government involvement in the attacks. "

I would be interested in other peoples thoughts.

Mike

oh come on, that's just Glenn Beck nonsence

Truthers.

Birthers.

Does everyone have to be a f'n moron?

ISO...this POS is a 9-11 truther and a race baiter...his sorry arse will be packing his bags soon.

ISO,

You need to turn off whatever you're listening to. It's just gonna' poison your mind. Besides, what's offensive about calling Republicans assholes anyway? But then I'm not easily offended. And the among the last things I'm going to fear is an avowed communist. T'ain't worth the energy. Truly isn't. Heck, everyone knows SF is full of gays, communists, and other assorted radicals. My youngest daughter lives there. Better be a bunch of radicals. America needs a dose of radicalism to balance out the over-riding apathy.

Chill. Seriously. Don't be gettin' your blood pressure up and stuff. It ain't good for ya'.

Sg

Mike, I like you, and we've always got along...so take this in that vein.

I didn't even read your post...based on the garbage you've posted lately, I didn't feel even the slightest need to.

Without even having the slightest idea who you're talking about, if the question from you is "Does this guy concern you?"...then my answer, without even reading who you are talking about is...

No.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. If I don't read it, it did NOT happen or DOES NOT EXIST... THE GWEAT AND TEWWIBLE TODD HAS SPOKEN!!!!!!!

I appreciate your candor, Todd.

If you know me well enough, you also know that I don't get too worked up over needless issues, but I'm not afraid to post something up that, as an American, concerns me.

It troubles me to see our country (hell, even this forum!) so divided over political issues. We are all so quick these days to slap a convenient label on the "other side" and then fully discount anything they say or post beyond that. There's too much "venom" and not enough discussion going on...instead, personal attacks get started and the "message" is lost somewhere in the backwash of negative adjectives commonly used to verbally attack the "other side". No substantive progress or discussion (over any issue) can happen in that environment.

I am neither a RWNJ or LWNJ....I'm just an American that loves his country and hates seeing it loose all the ground (for Freedom) that it has gained.

America, as a nation, has existed (and prospered) for over 200 years, and the political systems put in place by the countries founders were, IMHO, "designed" to disallow this type of individual access (or control) over "The People". We've seen in history what happens when men like this Jones fellow are in a position to make substantive changes in a countries political philosophies. It is never good for "The People"..yet, in American we seem to be moving more towards a huge government of folks like Jones, and away from the Freedom and The Constitution that the USA is all about.

Many good men (some on this forum) have fought to help other nations to stop the spread of Communism in their countries, and now we have more than one outspoken Communist working in our Gov't. That concerns me.

All my life I've watched the news and read the papers, and have seen the negative results of this kind of Socialist/Communist governing.

It is BAD for America, and a lot of other Americans besides myself are quite concerned over it. No offense as you are a guy I respect, but telling me to stop being concerned (put the blinders on?) just isn't going to work.

Maybe I'm just too simple of an individual, but that's what I think.

Mike

Wow KK, tell us how you REALLY feel....LOL Somebody pee in your cheerios this morning? Or did you find out your wife was sleeping with a Republican? Man I have never seen such a hate filled posting as that one. Makes BS look like a pussycat. Get a grip dude. Hmmm , on second thought, maybe she's sleeping with BS? Don't worry, Todd and BWP will be around to massage your balls shortly. TFF!!!!!!

Nice rant KK. I will not even jump on you for it as I had one myself with BWP dipshat the other day.

You know this guy is a JackA and does not help BO's cause. He is full of hate, he should go and likely should not have been given his job to begin with. It likely pleased certain groups to put him there and I doubt anyone listens or follows closely what he has to say. Never even heard of him before this and likely wont after he is given the Ol' "thanks for your dedicated service foot in the butt". Just another distraction they dont need. Good to see you defending him as alway though.

As if Republicans sleep with women...............

KK, in case you forgot, those"people who hide in caves" are the same ones responsible for 9/11,the marine barracks in Lebanon, the USS Cole, Lockerbie, and a host of other attacks on the U.S. Or as you want to believe, it's all Bush's fault. You need to get in touch with Rosie,Janeane, and all the other LLLW's who believe the same horseshit. It's ALL a conspiracy!!!!! And Obama will save us all!!!!!!

Footnote: You seem to have an unhealthy facination with men fellating each other...just saying....

+1

You know, FDR's administration was chocked full of Communist sympathizers and we survived that so I doubt that the new guy can do too much damage. He seems to be a bit of a knuckle head though. He was arrested here during the WTO debacle ten years ago. Was he a looter or an unemployed protester then?

As for the President's big speech on Tuesday, I just received the automated call from our school district about it this afternoon. I am reserving judgment until the speech is made public on Monday. I really don't see how telling kids to work hard and get the best education possible is a bad thing. As for the dopey assignment that the Dept of Education seems to think is necessary, that is just more of the same from goofy administrators in the world of education.

BTW, Bush the elder gave a very similar speech to the kids back during his term and shockingly the left screamed indoctrination.

You guys shouldn't be too hard on Kanetok, he only hates those that are on the right of him. That only includes most of the free world. After reading his thoughts for the last few years I'm pretty sure that only his shadow on a sunny day stands to his left. Good luck with the fishing trip.

DBA..just remember, it must fit KK's definition of "credible" in order to
be considered in any discussion. Those blinders he wears tend to rule out most arguments.

Sorry KK, I was wrong. I should have written attack and change the subject. My mistake. I understand when you cant defend the other approach works better. Next time I will sure to state which tactic you use and not confuse the two.

KK, I'm pretty sure you don't remember and since you didn't state what is an approved credible source I will go with the Gephardt quote published in the Wa Post 1991. I actually remember Gephardt's quote although I'm a little surprised that I did since I was only 23 back then and the living was good. Here yah go and enjoy.

"1991: DEMS BLAST BUSH 41 SCHOOL SPEECH
From the Washington Post, published Friday, October 4, 1991: Democrats assailed the Bush Administration today for spending $26,750 in taxpayer money to hire a production company that oversaw President Bush's telecast from an eighth-grade classroom here to schoolchildren around the country on Tuesday. The money came from the Education Department's salary and expense budget. As a result, Representative William D. Ford, the Michigan Democrat who heads the House Education and Labor Committee, demanded that Education Secretary Lamar Alexander appear before the committee to defend his "spending scarce education dollars to produce a media event." And the House majority leader, Richard A. Gephardt of Missouri, said, "The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the President." The President's spokesman, Marlin Fitzwater, responded by denying that Mr. Bush's talk to the schoolchildren had been a political event and calling the criticism "nonsense."

I do believe that Dick Gephardt trumps a lowly state party leader since Dick was the House Majority Leader at the time.

Now, I realize KK you are splitting hairs and since I have seen your picture I wouldn't recommend too much of that, you don't have much hair left. However, "paid political advertising" and "indoctrination" are pretty damn close to the same accusation, IMO.

Now I'm off to the sprawling metropolis of Belfair to do an appraisal. A little paying work every so often is a good thing. Have a good afternoon guys.

Why don't we all take the stance of waiting to hear what the address contains before spouting off, as some folks have.

One other thing: I already stated that I am waiting to preview the speech on Monday before getting too worked up one way or the other. I'm sure the speech is fine and will be generic enough BTW.

Just wanted to show you KK that the left can be and is just as full of crapola as the right is sometimes but I'm pretty sure you already knew that.

So KK, are we to assume you are the product of private education?
If so, the old adage still stands..

Elitist as defined by privately educated over priveleged snob.

Ok KK, if you say I'm a "RWNJ" then it MUST be true! All that really does though is muddy the waters up even more and the issue would once again be lost in the ensuing backswash.. Is that really what you want to happen, or can you actually speak to the issue of Jones being an outspoken Communist?

Do you EVER plan on addressing the issue, or you just going to throw all kinds of personal attack crap into the ring and hope I go away?

My position is: If the man is a Communist then IMO he has no place working for the US Gov't.

What say you?

Mike

Nice job kaykay...you've become an even bigger sh!tbag now that Obammy is your God....keep up the good work cause your one term sh!t puppet will have douchebags like you to thank for the loss.

I didn't think a piece of sh!t stained retard like yourself could be any sh!ttier but ..... sh!t I was mistaken.

Figured the "win" would keep you happily wiping the drool from your 21st chromosome.

KK sure sharpened the hooks before starting his daily fishing.

Catching looks to be good.

Dirtbag....now that's funny coming from an old gardener... kinda' like a pun. Please stop in any time I'd love to make your aquaintance......wink.

In any case your boy has done wonders for my business it's f ckin booming. Lot's of gun sales and since Obammy has f cked the economy up lots of gardeners have been shopping here I am sure your employees Jose and Hose B have been here along with countless liberals, they try and act tough but are poosies (just like you), are getting loans from us. Interest is where the money is ya know? Oh and ammo has been flying of the shelves....kinda' like Y2K where lots of dipsh!t liberal fags bought stuff (guns and ammo) which they are incapable of handling and afraid to have around so they dump it in 12-24 months. Either free or pennies on the dollar.....it's better for them that way. Just like you, they are sheep.

I am a little disturbed that you think about me so much but I am a pretty awesome dude so I'll take your daydreaming about me as a compliment.

Stop by some time I guarantee you won't forget me...well considering your age YOU might.

One little kid from B'ham cheering you on and you're ready to pop your cork....sick f ckin old man.

I like that one. Carry on.

Your point is you're a pedophile?

You're welcome.

I was only responding, in kind, to your posts...you've been feverishly insulting everyone with a different opinion and now you want to play the victim/race card.....silly fag-poosie-pedophilic liberal.

You are unarmed old man that's why you never bring anything to the discussion...but you are too stupid to realize it in your hate filled bubble/cul-de-sac/trailer park. Yet you mock a poster for a spelling mistake....you're the queen of f cked up spelling and poor proof reading so before casting stones...yada yada yada.

pot meet kettle....glass houses, etc ad nauseum

Hurry now and reply back 'cause I'll be closing the shop soon and the fellows want another good laugh....

Thanks.

Looks like I have the great ability shut the dumb-f ck up......cool my work here is done for now.

Mission accomplished.

You have to like a coward and a liberal..... but I repeat myself....they turn tail and run when confronted.

Wow KK...must have really given you a headache writing down all that drivel (above), and you STILL can't answer a simple question!!!

No debate here, it's a very simple, "YES or NO" question that you can't even answer. And you're saying that I'm not the "brightest bulb on the string"?

Here it is, real simplistic:

Do YOU believe that is appropriate for an outspoken Communist to have such a powerful position in the US Gov't?

Simple...is it Yes?...No?

Mike

Damn, I hope, even coming from you, that that's a joke...if not, then I think you really are retarded.

Gun sales have gone through the roof due to infantile fear, the kind that this thread started on, and has thrived on.



Wait a minute...I thought Saddam Hussein was responsible for that stuff?

Isn't that why we're in Iraq?

Don't bother answering...

Fish on...

Todd

Noice ! lmao.....one Czar down...36 to go.

About time! Unfortunately for Obama, the damage is already done...awww geee, so sad.

Dang. Those pundits were spot-on.

Blockbuster Trade: Team Obama Sends 'Green Czar' Van Jones to Team Venezuela for 2 Community Organizers to Be Named Later Plus Cash!
Written by Morse

Caracas, Venezuela/ Futbol News - Team Venezuela Owner, Coach and Manager Hugo Chavez is said to be exuberant today after acquiring the services of multi-talented rabble rouser and [**whoops**] stirrer, Van Jones after Jones was finally expelled on multiple "Red Card" violations in the US.

"Jonsey is the last piece of my puzzle to complete my all Red Team, "chortled the mega maniac banana republic Czar and Narco Dictator.

Jones who had a checkered past, despite being named to Obama's All Time Great Socialist Team of Czars, was finally forced to leave the county after a national outcry from both sides of the aisle after the American public screamed 'outage' after numerous incidents of avowed Fascism and Anarchy while on the playing field of American Politics.

Team Obama Locker Boy Robert Gibbs, interviewed while cleaning up the Team Dressing room and sorting dirty jockstraps, was philosophical about the trade.

"Yes,we did lose the glue that kept our team together, but on the other hand, we're getting two promising rookie community organizers, and the $30m in Narco Cash is going to go a long way to help other embattled team members in the upcoming 2010 playoffs!"

According to ESPN polls Team Obama, coming off a lopsided season of victories is ready to be upset due to a lack of leadership, poor use of personnel, and a very flawed game plan now being exposed by previously outmanned foes.

Chavez, who has nationalized his nation's banks, the oil industry, fruit growers, the Cocaine Cartel, and has banned radio , tv stations and cell phone towers, said Jones would be put in charge of eliminating the last vestiges of dwindling dissent, including that of his ex-wife, who continues to claim Chavez is suffering from 'little dick' syndrome, recently defined on the Spoof and discovered inadvertently in the UK in a public loo frequented by a fervent football fan, also wearing red.

Jones, who is said to have exited the White House with a Golden Parachute approaching 10's of millions of TARP stimulus money, is said to be happy with the trade.

"Finally, " he reportedly said, " I'm in a country that appreciates me, and one in which I can truly be one of the Top Bananas!"

Los Vegas odds, just out today, lay 50-1 that Obama and Chavez will be sent to obscurity after 2010.

Is this kind of like Trump saying Obama isn't an American? Where in the hell do all of these whackos come from? I'm afraid for my country.