Should the people be able to question our leaders?

Rick Santelli did a segment this morning, on CNBC, that he called 'Under the "Borg" walk' and the crux of the matter was the ability and the reasonableness to question authority, and the power that authority possesses, to interpret 'facts' as they are presented to the mass's. I found his ending quote to be of special interest.

Frederich Nietzsche, "All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

This really belongs over on the "Brian Blake" thread...

No sh!t!

I grew up in the 60s. Questioning authority and pretty much everything is second nature. My general lack of respect for authority might have something to do with my not rising to the top of management ranks.

I only breach the subject because the progressives seem to get their panty's in a wad whenever anyone questions the morals or ethics of their annointed leaders.

Conservatives don't, though.


Either that, or they do, and since you are one, you pretend you're different.


Whichever.

Well Dan, in fact I do believe that a different set of standards are applied to conservative leaders by the majority of the media than the standards that are applied to our liberal leaders, only an uninformed dimwit would proclaim otherwise.

You might keep this in mind, assuming there is room for it.
"All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth." Frederich Nietzsche

Respectfully.

Of course you do.



I'm pretty sure that was my point.

Rev, your head must be nine feet up your ample ass.

Hope this helps.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. "You're either with us, or against us!"

The Tood has been drawn out of his cave.

Well, while a trench nine feet long might contain your ego,----,if it were deep enough.

That same trench could not also contain your monkey ass.

Geeze... that's, nine feet....at some point wouldn't his head come out his mouth?

Politics in this country have been ruined by the media and their sensationalism. What makes blackmouth a dumb dumb is that he doesn't get that.

This really is not a political party issue it is a mass media issue. There is no unbiased anything anymore and thus the facts are whatever you make them.

And to your Nietzsche quote, that is truer than ever now, but it doesn't negate that there are facts and a reality. Funny thing is, back during the eight years of GWB, lots of bleeding hart liberals were quoting Nietzsche, I guess it's just a cycle.

I'll vote for whoever I like. No party affiliation here BTW. I often get criticized for being a libtard when I defend Obama, and was called stuff like that defending conservatives in the past. It is sad that people see all in red and blue. Thanks media for tellng everyone what to think and giving everyone what they want to hear.

Pick you channel, pick you color of brainwashing.

Five years ago about 80% of Russians had a favorable opinion of Americans. Today about 80% of Russians consider America the biggest threat to Russia.

The propaganda machine is stronger today than ever before in human history. I don't think peoe even care about the truth any more.

Hitler had it figured out below!

Oh I get it alright, I just thought that the Dark Side was getting a bit boring and could use a bit of a stir. So I made a post that I supposed would unsettle some of the libtards that scurry about in the cracks and cranny's here on the Dark Side. And just as I expected they showed up like rats to cheese, bringing along with them their disease and pestilence.

What a clown.

Fish on...

Todd

grayhook greatly overestimates his own cleverness.

Fish on...

Todd

Tood, I wanted to make sure that you realized that the humor of you calling me a clown and saying that I overestimate my cleverness was not lost on me.

Well the fact is I do think that the site had been languishing lately, and I don't know of what you speak when you say that I'm "Folding like a house of cards" because I stand by my stated opinions.

I suspect you are wrong about that.

Fish on...

Todd

lol

You whined and people called you a whiner.

Shocking only to a paste eater - like you apparently are.

I was not shocked, I was not even a little bit surprised as my post that you quoted shows.

Evidently your reading comprehension is not so good.

Evidently, your self-awareness is not so good.

My self-awareness may not be as good as some others. I am not a naval(sp) gazer.

But I seem to have you figured out.

You weren't trolling or baiting a trap, loser - you were just being a drippy cu.nt about the media picking on conservatives and polishing Obama's helmet all the time. And now you're backstroking like it was all some trolling attempt instead of a sand-packed snivelfest.

If it was, your technique is bullsh!t and you should go kill yourself.

Everyone knows it wasn't, though - but you shoukld go kill yourself anyway.

I've been an observer and poster on this board since 2004 and I have learned over time what kind of responses to expect from the liberal posters on this site when anyone, posts anything, that challenges their dogma. It so apparent that even you should be able to recognize it. You can, can't you? ---- Oh my, is that why you all get so upset when someone shows you how simple that you all really are?

And by the way Dan I still believe that a different set of standards are applied to conservative leaders by the majority of the media than the standards that are applied to our liberal leaders, only an uninformed dimwit would proclaim otherwise. You are now excused, and free to go and set your hair on fire.

So who filled you in Hank? Someone besides you must have popped their head in your colon to get you up to speed.

There is a reason your mom nicknamed you cream pie...the best of you dribbled right down her leg.

Hey look - Hank is a drippy cu.nt, too.

Go get a box of tissue, you fuckin' pussy. I'll hook up the hose so you can wash out your sandy vag.

I'm excused? By you?

Fu.ck off, old man. You're just a sniveling old bastard, and you should probably just die instead of any more of the earth's oxygen and resources.

Well you certainly can't questioin Putin in Russia!

drip, drip.................

If I had a death wish I might, and I suppose that is your point, correct? I am pleased to be a citizen of the USA, and I do understand that 'proud' is a problematic word.

Yes by me, as you seem to be lacking in judgement and or wisdom.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Action of Second Continental Congress,
July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.

WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great-Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public Good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing Importance, unless suspended in their Operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

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He has called together Legislative Bodies at Places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the Depository of their public Records, for the sole Purpose of fatiguing them into Compliance with his Measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly Firmness his Invasions on the Rights of the People.

He has refused for a long Time, after such Dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the Dangers of Invasion from without, and Convulsions within.

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He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the Tenure of their Offices, and the Amount and Payment of their Salaries.

He has erected a Multitude of new Offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harrass our People, and eat out their Substance.

He has kept among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies, without the consent of our Legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a Jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution, and unacknowledged by our Laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all Parts of the World:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us, in many Cases, of the Benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pre-tended Offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an arbitrary Government and enlarging its Boundaries, so as to render it at once an Example and fit Instrument for introducing the same absolute Rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with Power to legislate for us in all Cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our Seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our Towns, and destroyed the Lives of our People.

He is, at this Time, transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the Works of Death, Desolation, and Tyranny already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and Perfidy, scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous Ages, and totally unworthy of the Head of a civilized Nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the Executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic Insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions we have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble Terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated Injury. A Prince, whose Character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the Ruler of a free People.

Nor have we been wanting in Attentions to our British Brethren. We have warned them from Time to Time of Attempts by their Legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the Circumstances of our Emigration and Settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and Magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the Ties of our common Kindred to disavow these Usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our Connections and Correspondence. They too have been deaf to the Voice of Justice and of Consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the Necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of Mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace, Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World for the Rectitude of our Intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly Publish and Declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES, that they are absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political Connection between them and the State of Great-Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which INDEPENDENT STATES may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

You've done it now fish4brains, how dare you bring up the past as if it has anything to do with the future.

Apparently.

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