Governor Dimslee

Just curious as to why it was okay for him to shoot a basketball at Wenatchee Valley College yesterday INDOORS WITHOUT A MASK around other people while thousands of high school and middle school kids can't do the same at their schools? Kids can't even do it under CDC guidelines while wearing a mask.

Some fuk demofag (esp Jason beezy) will spin the fuk out of what you said.

This cake is delicious!

I bet Inslee shoots his balls in a hole quite frequently in Seattle.

Snake, what makes you think it was OK for Inslee to shoot hoops?

Oh you didnt know?
That's the inslee/warshington way. It never makes sense.

I imagine all the sheep will be here soon.

This one's headed down the right path....

Keith

Waiting on Illahehesheshe to jump in with, " you f'n Trumpanzees....."

I was shaking my head as I read the article last night, and scrolled through the associated pictures as well (pictures are pretty funny). Not a Pulitzer prize-winning article by any means!

https://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/coro...6f4a79fab0.html

Anybody but inslee 2020.

Illashee will gobble down this bait just like the citizens of Wa do for any politician with a D next to their name.

He just wanted to give the lambs something to bleat about...

He's a dick like that.

I want to see the pic of him shooting hoops "around other people", Snake. Post it if you have it. I'd be angry too if it were true.

In the article that snit linked us to I saw two pics of him with the ball that according to the article, were taken "after his news conference" and there were no longer other people in the background.

C'mon Snake. It should not be that hard for you to back up your claims. Try harder. Post the pic you saw of him shooting hoops "around other people".

I agree it was stupid and hypocritical of him.

Socially distance. If you can't, then wear a mask.

If you are not socially distant, and not wearing a mask, then you should be called out for it.

What was he doing?

Fish on...

Todd

From the looks of things being a retard.

Last time I checked Inslee's approval rating was 70 % on Covid response. If you don't like him than vote for that Trump retard from East Jeffereson County.

Cake eater.

Dimslee is at it again. At his press conference today he said some things about Slade Gorton-voting for impeachment of Nixon and Trump. Really? Nixon resigned before the Senate impeachment in '74 AND Slade wasn't elected to Senate until 1980. And the Trump impeachment was in the HOUSE in 2019 and Slade hadn't been in the Senate since 2000. Just more lies and fabrication by Dimslee.

LOL

Citation? I bet not, just like your initial deception in this thread.

Here's what Slade actually said and did.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new...ns-resignation/

Surely you could find something to complain about that doesn't require you to deceive people.

It's a bit out of character for Snake.

I believe he's on a guided fishing trip and tossing out some good bait for you all. Seems to be getting some bites.

Too bad this place is only full of skanky tules.

Ha!

Probably should do a bit of your own research here, Snake...Slade Gorton was not in the Senate, but he rather loudly did chime in on the Trump impeachment hearings, and in favor of them.

Fish on...

Todd

So Dimslee won't debate Culp live on stage because Culp won't wear a mask even though they will be more than 10 feet apart. Interesting, Dimmer seems okay being in a room with other people while he's shooting hoops without wearing a mask himself?

Dimslee is done,, I see Culp signs everywhere and no Dimslee signs in East Jefferson County which is 70% democrat.

Why doesn't Culp grow a fuckin' pair and spoil Jay's plan by just wearing a mask then?

yeah he should just wear the mask, he should wear a trump mask.

Gotta agree with Rich here on this one...(doesn't happen often!). Culp is going to look WEAKer if he won't play Defense on the Hoop-Star Dimslee, even if he has to "mask-up"!

I have several friends who are one the "D" side that work for state agencies (DSHS, WDFW, WSDOT, & DOL), and while we try to not involve politics in our friendships (it can be done) these particular folks are adamantly against Dimslee anymore. Albeit, they're equally disappointed in the "other" avaialble choice. As of now, it's anything other than the status quo.

Even a blind pig finds an acorn every once in a while! Rich is right. Culp should mask up, I doubt that the debate will make a difference in the eventual outcome but Culp likely needs all the help he can get!

Culp's hopes of winning are pretty dim. Inslee leads

I think it will be a lot close then expected. Inslee won 52% of the vote, with various candidates taking the other 48%. Most of these will likely vote republican. This would lean the election to Inslee, if the same percentages hold up. What is interesting, though, is that King County, voting primarily Republican, had a 55% turn out, where as Spokane county had around 49%. Pierce County, which is more middle of the road then King County only has Inslee at around 44% of the total vote. It also had a lower percentage turn out, with Approx 52% turn out. Again, Thurston county, which gave around 50 % to Inslee, had a much higher percentage turn out than the counties that went against Inslee. I still give the numbers to Inslee, but it does not appear to be sure thing.

Inslee will be close due to massive fraud, he might take it in a recount in King County temporarily but the people will not stand for it.. Culp will win after the election is contested.

By the time this election is over, most of the elected officials including judges will be in jail if they are lucky, if they are not lucky they will wish they were in jail.

Culp signs everywhere, Inslee signs nowhere. Its reality if you see different post it.

I don't care for Inslee. That and being opposed to more than 2 terms for any politician, make me wish the Republicans could have found a really competent and well qualified candidate. They almost had it with McKenna in 2016. McKenna would be a far and away better governor than Inslee. However, McKenna's Catholic anti-abortion and anti-gay opinions can't win a state-wide election in WA.

Some wisdom in politics in 2020? Just wanting the best man or woman for the job regardless of party affiliation? Salmo is a boss and represents most ( I really hope so ) peoples’ opinions in politics.

Everything except leaning toward Rand Paul.

Like Salmo, I think WA would elect a Repub Governor if they nominated folks to the left of Attilla the Hun. I was set to support McKenna until he went all Tea-Party. We elect Repubs to a variety of stewed offices; it's who they choose that leads them to lose.

McKenna was corrupt, he is an establishment/deep state guy.. Practiced law for Perkins Coie law firm, they taught him well...

Culp has big support, I think he is going to win with a big lead early but late counted votes will go overwhelmingly to Inslee in the days and weeks following the election. Piles of fraudulent ballots in King County, so much so it will be obvious fraud and the people will go crazy in response.

The only one going crazy is Rich.

Fixed the typo

All I know about Culp is he picks and chooses which laws he will enforce. The son of a sheriff from East Jefferson County. Supported the John Birch Society!

Jay Inslees support is over 70 percent for his response to the Corona Virus. The only politician seriously that has a plan to combat climate change.

Go ahead and vote for whoever you want. I think everybody's minds are made up anyway.

Rich and Trump are still on the same page with....

"The only way we can lose is from voter fraud".

Kind of scary isn't it, the two minds thinking so similarly.

Trump's voter fruad commity was quietly disbanded when they found nothing. This didn't stop him from doubling down on it though.

And the Trumps thought mail in voting was good enough for them for years.

Jay never fails to disappoint. On a visit to the eastern Washington town of Malden on September 10th, Dimslee presented apples from Olympia to Malden's mayor in Whitman County. The agriculture department informed the governor's office that taking apples from maggot-infested Western Washington to maggot-free zones, such as Whitman County, was illegal.
Great leadership and knowledge to not know the laws of one of your state's biggest businesses.

Yes.

Outrageous.

I know the Apple Maggot Quarantine Area and its preservation and enforcement is at the top of my list when considering my vote for governor.



This is what you guys have? Wow - Culp is going to get beaten like a rented mule, isn't he?

Another cast from Snake and another tule on.

Damn, he's either really good, or the tules have sunken to an all time low in these waters and will eat just about any bait tossed at them. Must be starving from all the other inedible crap/bait in the waters these days.

I don't recall tule fishing being this easy in the past.?.

UTC - Ultimate Tule Cure

You know those dam shakers, they'll bite a piece of turd corn.

setting a bad example, kinda like his presidential campaign that cost the taxpayers millions when there was absolutely no chance.

So, WA high school athletes are wanting to play fall sports, but at yesterday's press conference, Dimslee said it wasn't his decision but recommends that they don't play. And further said it was up to the WIAA. Really Jay, really? It's was your "decision" to set counties at certain phases that haven't been moved in months. Now with other states are playing sports, you're going to pass the buck and put it on the WIAA? It is YOUR decision, same with businesses opening, etc, and my favorite....at the start of this whole thing....you can be in a boat, but you can't be in a boat and hold a fishing rod. Unfukkinbelievable.
Talking out of both sides of his mouth again and never taking any responsibility.

Snake has ran out of UTC and is now using up some driveway bait. More than likely some freezer burned UEC.

0 Stars.

EvoJuice! EvoJuice! EvoJuice!

Jaybone stumbles again. His rant about the recent fires being caused by climate change was addressed by UW professor Cliff Mass in an interview with Dori Monson. Mass said that Dimslee was incorrect, in fact, 180 degrees incorrect.

How do you like them apples?

No news here.
It has been scientifically proven that douchebaggery follows douchebags around.

Cliff Mass is a great meteorologist but he is politically biased towards the right.

At least Inslee has the balls to point out climate change.

Climate change is occurring. You have to be a fvckin idiot to think otherwise.

The real question is to what degree is it man induced or a part of earth’s natural cycle. There is no consensus on this in the scientific community and it’s a fair question to ask.

Trumpanzee!!!! Here it comes!

See that would be true if your TV just received Fox News, but that's not reality, just like what you just said id not reality.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

"Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening."

See steamer your 100% smarter than you were a few seconds ago.
Your welcome.

There is a consensus on this.

Either that or you don't know what that word means.

I tend to agree with this. I do think that there is a political agenda around it, too. I'll even go as far as to say that Inslee is hanging his hat on it for self serving political purposes.

Argued with the wife a bit the other night about this.... I had to wonder if the dinosaurs argued about it as well.

Never give a goddamn inch.

With virtually every single climate scientist saying it is happening, and it is man made, and it is happening rapidly...well, there's consensus.

There are about two that disagree, and then there are oil companies and Republicans who call that a "debate".

No stars for you, Steamer.

Fish on...

Todd

So Dimslee goes on Twitter and says, "I'm glad to see Pac-12 sports are back. My office worked with OR,CA and our universities to improve the safety measures and help keep student athletes and staff healthy". What a crock of @#$%! You expect us to believe you did anything to help our youth get back to normal? Other states and leagues made the move long before and we follow late, but he's going to take credit? TRUMP is one who got colleges playing football.
Big question for you Jaybone….how's the UW going to play football when King County is at Phase 2? It's all about the money. What a fraud. Keep the public schools closed but open UW for football.
Read the avalanche of tweets ripping the Dimmer!

So, under Governor Dimslee's leadership, Boeing is yanking their Dreamliner production from Everett and heading to S.C. Our state and especially Snohomish County is going to take a huge economic hit. Maybe the Dimmer can send Boeing a box of maggot-infested apples to make it all better?

I blame Trump. If this is the greatest economy ever why are people losing jobs and unemployment is in double digits? Just like 1970 when Nixon was president and Boeing was laying off.

You've got to be shitting me... Blaming Trump, the person who wants to open the economy? It "Was" a great economy then boom COVID.... It's not rocket science, you had two threats being preached. Close the economy and save lives or leave it open and people die. But, it's the liberal Governors that have restricted the most.

You have a governor here in our Liberal state that's held everyone back for months because of Covid and the restrictions. Boeing may be a big one to go, but there's countless small businesses that didn't have capital to sit and wait out the Covid/Inslee restrictions. Unless this economy opens wide, we're going to see one hell of an issue come 2021 and beyond, I don't give a [Bleeeeep!] who sits in the oval office...

Keith

....speaking of spin.

Both those clowns need to go. Hopefully we get it right one day.

If only! Horrible process of choosing leaders if this is the best it can produce. (Full disclosure, I'm voting for Trump's policies over Biden's and trying to ignore all the bullsht).

So maybe this is a topic for another thread but, who would you put on the ticket given the chance?

Which trump policies do you love so much?

The ones where the environment is being destroyed?

The one where he sides with Putin over our own intelligence agencies?

The rhetoric that cause our brown and black friends to be assaulted or harassed at Safeway for not being white?

The one where he cranks up the deficits when there's no great recession?

The policies where he encourages white supremacists to interfere with our elections? Or asking foreign governments to interfere?

Or policies that promote Q anon?

How about the policy of lying to America about the severity of Covid, which has caused many more deaths than had to be.

Jeez.

6.7 trillion in new debt, and yet the economy's in shambles.

A trade war with China.

Farm bankruptcies at an all-time high.

A trillion dollar deficit BEFORE the covid outbreak.



Yeah - nice policies.

Derp.

[quote=OceanSun] (Full disclosure, I'm voting for Trump's policies over Biden's and trying to ignore all the bullsht).

So you're retarded.

Just FYI - both Moody's Analytics and Goldman Sachs say the market will perform better under Biden than under Trump.

Evo may dispute their findings.

All presidents from Reagan to now are running up deficits. The rate at which it’s happening is almost irrelevant... because nobody should be endorsing this idea at all. Period. Whether or not Trump gets re-elected, or Biden, the next president will spend the most of any yet. Book it.

You have to be a total fukkkin buffoon to not see how [Bleeeeep!] each side is. They are both equally terrible. To point criticism at one and not the other only proves how much of a lunatic and partisan hack you really are.

Almost all of you fit into this.

Blaming either Inslee or Trump for Boeing's decision to move all 787 production to SC is to ignore the over-riding consideration factors.

Regardless of restrictions, or lack thereof, people are independently deciding to use air travel much less. Less air travel means airlines are ordering many fewer new aircraft. Fewer aircraft orders means Boeing has to belt tighten and make production adjustments in order to remain profitable and in business. And like all major business corporations, Boeing doesn't really give a sh!t about people, comments to the contrary notwithstanding, so it makes complete business sense for Boeing to consolidate 787 production in non-union SC instead of union job Everett, WA.

My reaction to Boeing: don't let the door hit you in the azz on your way out. Inslee and Trump are irrelevant to this turn of events.

Dammit Salmo. Bringing facts and logic to a political discussion, much less The Darkside, is just pissing into the wind.

Trump's response to the economy has kept it alive.
During the Democrats response to a crisis, the economy spun out of control I personally lost about $200,000 in wealth, most of which will never come back I had to dump the asset at a loss to keep my family fed. I was talking to my brother and he personally knew 6 people that killed themselves after they lost everything. It was immediate and out of control for most of us. I was self employed, so I got nothing. I owed $32,000 0 on a $250,000 asset (my home) and had to dump another asset at 1/3 the pre-crisis value to save it. The banks refused to work with me. At one point, the builder I was working at was still building and selling homes. Employing people and paying taxes. The government upped the requirements on the banks while promising to cover any losses. They came to the builder and tried to call the loan, even though it would put him out of business and result in a several hundred thousand dollar loss for them. It didn't matter, the government would cover the loss, but if they did not do it, they could loose their license. He pushed them off and paid off the loan.

These were some of the great policies of the Democrats during a crisis. From my perspective, almost every move they made deepened the crisis. They came and foreclosed on homes, lowered the prices and sold them only to the few home owners or investors who could buy. In many of the areas I worked, about 90% or more of the sales were foreclosures that were purposely price below market to sell quickly. Getting a loan, for many, was almost impossible. Then, refuse to sell to investors. Is it any wonder that prices spiraled downward as the few qualifying buyers chose to buy greatly undervalued properties? Or that the very rich were able to buy assets at pennies on the dollar. At one point, the FDIC offered 120 lots at about 75% of the development costs. I have buyers that wanted them, but the sale was for $3.2 million. No bank would loan that much and they refused to parcel them off in smaller lots. They sold them to a multimillionaire I know for just over a million in an auction. Within a week of the auction he sold some off for the original list of around $30,000 each. The rest he held onto and sold for around $70,000 each 3 years later.

Did the democrats suspend foreclosures or evictions? No. Did they offer unemployment to the millions of self-employed. No. What they did was extend unemployment to the those working in large corporations and businesses (read lots of union type employers) and redistribute wealth to large corporations and wealthy investors.

So tell me again how great the democrats were in 2008-2012, and how bad Trump is. Are any of you losing your homes? How many have lost their entire retirement accounts. How many of your friends have killed themselves as a result of the economy? Are you better off now economically then you were in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, or 2014? Yes, eventually it turned around, but I feel I lost almost 12 years of my life. Despite all the problems of this year, I am still doing as well or better. Right now I am about to sell an asset that I was unable to sell for $35,000 five years ago for around $120,000 -in the middle of a pandemic. I take that over what happened in 2008 any time.

There are lots of reasons to hate Trump. Just chose wisely.

Nope. See Clinton's surplus at the end of his second term...the one that GW spent.

Ya but he got a BJ from a skank that wasn’t his wife so nothing he did counts.

So now the Presidents personal morality counts?

Steamer lives to get all emotional and start presenting his opinion as if it's a fact.

You don't even have to go that far back to see what kind of bullsh!t he just typed out.

"Deficits don't matter!!"

lol

The problem with deficits is that some times they make sense, others they don't. Think of running a christmas tree farm. You invest with no return for 5 to 7 years, then in the last year make up for all the losses. Clinton got rid of a huge deficit in a few years by not over spending when the return was coming. That makes him unique. It seems the democrats always want to spend no matter what, while the Republicans want to cry about spending in down times, then over spend in the good times (or simply give it away to the wealthy). Neither is trying to figure out how to make a surplus.

Both parties are complicit with deficit spending. Maybe Clinton was an exception to that (I don’t know) but if that’s the case I will take that back. The parties are ok with it and it isn’t going to change.

Keep misconstruing what I said. Reading comprehension for you seems to be another deficit in this discussion. Deficits do matter and shouldn’t be happening at all regardless of how much.

You should use better words if you don't want them misconstrued.

My reading comprehension is excellent - you just talk out your ass too much.

Fixed it for you.

Sure you did, Evo, err, Steamer.

Keep telling yourself that...

1 star

The bantering between Dan and I is half a star at best. You’re being too generous.

Not sure how old you are Streamer, so IDK if you can remember back to the '90s? BUT from the mid-90's on until "W" showed up, the '90s were generally a great time (for a lot of the country, and me). Clinton wiped out the defecit, tech stocks had the market rolling (of course it was going to crash, even I saw it), housing starts were way up too.

IMO the R's started the BIG division in Federal Politics when Newt and Ken Starr went after Clinton for impeachment as a result of the Lewinsky hearings. The R's just wouldn't drop it, so what..he got a hummer, who would blame him??? Even though Newt was having an affair at the same time, as well as his predacessor as Speaker of the House also! Pot meet kettle...oh yeah..there were lots of steelhead too...

And Clinton was impeached by a group of Republicans for getting a BJ after being a great president in many ways, because who cares how good someone is at their job if they aren’t Jesus-like behind closed doors.The Reps were all Christian stroking holier than you types at this time, painting the Dems as the immoral ones, and it worked. In the near future after the Reps grand standing, many of the impeachment leaders like Newt were discovered to have had many affairs and been womanizers just like the Slick Willy Bill....and every career politician because they all want the fruits of power.

In the next election, because the Reps were supposed the ones with the moral high ground, W was elected, an admitted former cocaine addict, alcoholic, and womanizer. He was all clean now so it was just fine by the moral hypocrites of the world.

Agree. That's what I've been saying for years. That's when the great divide started. About that time Limbaugh clone, fox news, was also born, acting like GOP state TV and brainwashing the gullible.

I know this is about Dimslee, and I still feel he has to go! But Culp ain't gonna be the guy. Jay-Jay needs to go though as he's a dimwit, ambulance chasin', free loader, who sway's where ever the $$$ takes him. As mentioned in another thread; Gary Locke - while quite mundane, was a fine govenor from what I remember? I'm just embarassed that the R party has had 8 years and the best they could find has been Bill Bryant (remember him, bet not?) and Culp for the middle of Nowhere, Wa. I'm just not the demographic I guess..

Regarding Clinton-I was in my mid/late 20's when that debacle was taking place, and I remember the amount of people I personally knew who were totally enthralled with the impeachment hearings, aka the "gullible". Probably the same folks who were just coming down from their "high" from watching the "OJ Debacle" too. "Court TV" was a new novelty that was sweeping the land of the daytime TV viewers, plus the new-fangled Interwebzz/24-hr instant media source w/chat rooms and "fake-news" outlets, etc.

I was probably naive at the time, but I assumed "The Clinton Investigation" was a Colossal Waste of time and taxpayer MONEY, and the end result (regardless of a vote of "impeachment") would be a moot point. Most of "us" knew this as well, as we probably didn't give a rats-azz that 'Ol Slick Willy got a Hummer in the Oval Office. Or that he did what every other married guy would do when he was confronted about it...lie, lie, and deny! It's human nature; plus factor in that he's a politician anyhow and that lieing/dishonesty comes second nature with upper level elected positions??? [Bleeeeep!], how could anyone be surprised?? I just lost so much respect for the R's who were pushing the witch hunt...

As I mentioned, 'Ol Bill was good for the economy, which was good to me! It allowed us to buy our 1st house when I was 22yo, and then a new pickup in '96. In '97 I stumbled on a deal we couldn't pass up on a newer jet boat. Sold my 1st boat I bought when I was 21yo, and the new boat opened up an entire new arena for us to recreate in. Life was grand, as we had 2 good jobs with minimal debt and we didn't even have a credit card. Fiscally, the economy was cooking along well from my perspective. By the end of the '90s we'd sold our first house, and moved out of town to the same house I have today. The tech stocks had taken a hit (I believe) but the market was still solid and consumer confidence was positive. But Y2K was imminent, and changes were coming...

I was raised a "R", but my wife was a "D" when I met her. Over time she had started to change some of her views to a more conservative perspective, and I was becoming way more moderate. But by the late '90's, thanks to the shait show the R's were hosting against Clinton, she had retraced her steps and I continued to become more liberal. By 2000, we both became so frustrated with anything political, we just tuned it out. Essentially we just worked, and went full on killin' fish and game. As we couldn't comprehend any of the macro political ideals/beliefs being served up anymore (especially from the R side). "The times, they were a changin"...."Dub-Ya" or Gore....

Culp is going to lose by double digits. You don't have to be bright to graduate from Chimicum HS. Inslee is looking pretty good. I still want a president from Washington state. Jay's problem is that he ran as a green candidate. Trump is taxing the hell out of me and creating a big debt just like his personnel debt that was revealed. $750 of income tax? Really! My federal income taxes rose in 2019 with Trump. I never received his welfare stimulus check. Lost over $100K in my retirement this year. I took some profits from the stock market on Friday. I see a stock market crash on the horizon. Now Trump is defunding social security right before I retire.

You 2 aren't the only posters on here. 9/10ths of that star go to the other people

True

Governor Apple Maggot is a true politician. One day before tonight's debate, Jaybone relaxes Covid restrictions that could have been done weeks if not a couple of months before.
Ironically, he won't debate Culp in the same room while being socially distanced due to Covid risk, but his new mandate would allow him to sit down in a restaurant and have drinks together a little longer than before.
Read more here: https://mynorthwest.com/2212818/rantz-gov-inslees-brazen-coronavirus-mandates-politics/
And if that is not enough for you Dimmer supporters, understand this: WA state has the 5th highest business closures in the nation. 4,975 businesses closed, 3,062 PERMANENTLY closed. What a leader!!

Thanks for the update, nice to see that he is getting a few things moving in the right direction.

Look at it this way, he could always do worse... he could have lead us into a mess like we have in the White House right now by taking covid too lightly.

The debate should be interesting.

Culp rhymes with pulp, and that's what Culp will be after Inslee "steamrollers" him in the debate tonight. It's going to be like watching a westside pro team taking on a eastside junior varsity squad, but there's no mercy rule to end the game. Dimmer for the easy win, tonight and on November 3rd.

I hope I don't fall asleep during the debate between Jay - bland - Inslee and Dimbulb Culp. I'm counting on Culp to make enough stupid or just plain incorrect remarks to keep me entertained and awake.

With Seattle having the lowest infection rate of all major cities in the US, and King County as a whole right up there, too, any complaining about how we're dealing with the Coronavirus pandemic around here should fall on deaf ears.

But it won't.



I watched an interview with Culp the other day...literally his only qualification is that he determined that he wouldn't enforce the law, and the "law and order" crowd loved that, for some reason.

He comes across as pretty dense, not much of a speaker, and not particularly knowledgeable about...well, much at all.

I'm sure he's a great guy, but he is not governor material, and probably would not be Sheriff in a county of any significance, either.

Fish on...

Todd

Have to agree with the Reeferbum on this one...

This election, like all at this time, is about perceived ideologies, at not actual policies or out comes. Inslee is a democrat and Culp is a republican. That is all that will matter.
Culp should have adequate to win on, but even if he does, it won't matter.

This for sure...

Makes you wonder since we were the first to get going with the Covid and had next to no testing available for many months in the early phases how many people went "unknown" for having it...

Hands down though, Inslee handled this pandemic well. Masks work.

Keith

I feel bad for all those red states that are spiking so badly. I mean just think of all those people living there wondering why they have the "flu" and it's not even winter.

Do you smell anything burning? It's just Dimslee, he got smoked last night in the debate. As Cousin Eddie said, "I haven't seen a beating that bad since someone put a banana down my pants and then let a monkey loose"

Culp did make a good showing and said a lot of the right things, Inslee sounded like he didn't take the time to realize he needed to debate, if Culp doesn't outright win this thing he sure make it closer last night.

Have to agree on the first (2) statements, but I feel Jay-Jay will still get the nod for the next term. While Culp is definitely WAY underqualified for the position, Dimslee has had his chances for 8 years and under performed IMO. It was fun to watch Jay squirm!

“Climate fires”

Really Jay? You sound like a total dumbphuck. Culp should have brought up the DNR Forest reports that Inslee ignores... and only funded only at 20% for wildfire prevention. Jay made his bed with that one.

At least he admitted to lying about not knowing about CHOP. I guess it’s better to be labeled a liar than being unaware.

Yes, he has and yes it was.

Maybe running a state is a bit more complicated than representing and arresting the fine folks of Republic. With a little work on the hair, and Trump knows the best hair people, Culp could be a stand in for Bill Barr should Barr go down with Covid. Denny Heck will be a very good Governor, when Inslee joins the Biden team.

I really liked what Cowboy Culp had to say about fisheries and hatcheries. Jay doesn't seem to get it on fisheries but understands climate change.

You may have liked what Culp said about fisheries and hatcheries, but the take home message I heard in that regard is that he is absolutely clueless on the subject. I heard Culp say that he wanted hatcheries at 100% production. I take that to mean that he wants recent year cuts in hatchery production restored. That fails to consider that many of the hatchery production cuts are the result of complying with ESA requirements. Culp also wants to reduce the state budget. That being the case, where would the money come from to restore hatcheries to 100% production? Can't come from the General Fund if he intends to reduce state spending. And sport fishermen don't want to pay more for fishing licenses when WDFW is actively reducing recreational fishing opportunity. And lastly, restoring hatchery production, within ESA limits, would result in very little increase in the overall sport harvest. Neither Culp nor Inslee seem aware that salmon and steelhead populations are in the toilet due to poor ocean survival rates, a factor over which we have zero control.

Regarding wildfires, I don't see that the governor has much influence on that. Unless the gov has been vetoing legislative appropriations to DNR for that purpose. DNR Commissioner Franz has been very active during her tenure both in fire prevention measures and fire suppression, to the extent of the available budget. It isn't the fault of the governor or even the legislature that the citizens of WA don't want to spend a sh!t ton more tax money on fire prevention measures. As Inslee mentioned, there are something like 22 million acres of forest in WA, and there is no way all of it could be treated in a short time.

I am sorry I missed this last night, sounds like it was actually worth watching...I managed to tune in to a bit of the VP debate while setting stuff up in my new house, and that was less than thrilling.

Pence was as unimpressive and bland as I expected, besides lying virtually every other sentence, but Harris didn't seem as well-prepared as I expected. Haven't checked out the polls this morning but I suspect she will probably be sitting at about 60/40 as the winner, not dissimilar to where Biden and Trump ended up.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. That fly stole the show.

[/quote]....Neither Culp nor Inslee seem aware that salmon and steelhead populations are in the toilet due to poor ocean survival rates, a factor over which we have zero control.[/quote]

Salmo, current fisheries are so farked-up would another "wrong" (election of Culp) upset the apple cart even further..really? I don't honestly know, but last night it appeared Jay-Jay doesn't either on multiple levels...

Folks are calling for more hatchery production, more fire protection, fixing up of roads, and whole long list of stuff but are unwilling to pay for it. If you are unwilling to pay for it, you don't really want it.

WORD

The debate was a non event.

Moderator, "Culp, what is your plan?"

Culp, "I plan to fix everything."

Moderator, "Culp, thank you"

Moderator, "governor, what is your plan?"

Inslee, "I'm currently fixing everything."

Moderator, "thank you governor"

That was about it for an hour.

No plans, no details, very little rebuttal, a few good questions, but no follow-up.

Culp did OK, but really said nothing more than what's on a campaign sign with bullet points in someone's yard.

Inslee kind of stumbled around answering just about every question and looked unprepared.

There's a huge hatchery just sitting there waiting for man to stop sh1ting in it long enough for the fish to recover.

....Neither Culp nor Inslee seem aware that salmon and steelhead populations are in the toilet due to poor ocean survival rates, a factor over which we have zero control.[/quote]

Salmo, current fisheries are so farked-up would another "wrong" (election of Culp) upset the apple cart even further..really? I don't honestly know, but last night it appeared Jay-Jay doesn't either on multiple levels... [/quote]

Snit,

No. More likely than not, Culp wouldn't and couldn't make fisheries any better or any worse. If elected, he will learn that the governor has next to no power over fisheries, although gubernatorial support for hatcheries could be expected to play out for more legislative support.

Sg

Excellent summation. I need to learn to take better and more concise notes.

Looks like it's gonna' take a much more effective pandemic than Covid-19 to clear the way for that recovery to begin. BTW, if the world human population were decreased by say, 50%, there is no assurance that environmental recovery would result in anadromous fish populations looking anything like they did in 1850.

Let's shoot for harvestable levels first or is it the all or nothing mentality?
Oregon south coast rivers allow retention of wild fish, so it's possible, we just need the will.
Until the sh1thing stops and those that sh1t are held accountable, the downward spiral will continue.
Welcome to the days we have made.

Wrong! Harvest/retention can happen over wild fish populations that have and will continue to have exceeded spawning goal populations.

Keith

Hatcheries have failed, the cost is outweighing the benefits, thinking more money will fix things is fools plan.
HSRC laid out the ground work, and there's only one way forward, which is protecting wild fish habitat or there's always golf.

It's not the hatcheries that are failing, they're reduced plants considerably or in some cases over 70%, of course the returns will fail.

But on the flip side of the coin, it is the hatchery fish that's the demise of the wild... You can't have both.

Keith

Governor Apple Maggot is ranked #50 out of 50 in the nation's governor list determined by the Cato Institute. NOT #1, NOT in the top ten, NOT in the top half, but last, dead last.
Yeah, keep supporting him, keep voting for him. And you wonder why our state is a mess.

Cato institute...lol. No surprise there.

Well the "DBS Institute of Trying Not to Die of Covid" ranks him near the top.

To be fair, Snake, Cato is not a reputable source of much...at least not much that is useful.

Fish on...

Todd

Do you really think that sport fishing even consumes 15 minutes a month of a governor's time?

This is so far down list that it's irrelevant to their long-term plans.

The tribal $$$$ does get some consideration though, probably near the top.

Arguing over it here is a waste of bandwidth.

CATO is a Liberterian think tank. At least we don't have a state income tax.

So you think you are getting over on the state government?
Think again, 10% sales tax and some of the highest property taxes in the nation more than makes up for no income tax.

Here is a quote from higher up the food chain in Culp's world.

"Trump says in bizarre Fox News rant that California has to ration water because it poured its supply into the sea to 'take care of certain little tiny fish."


"The Trump administration has moved to roll back protections for the fish to direct more water to farmers, who are among the president's strongest supporters in the state."

Lol, farmers might be his only supporters, California farmers have always voted Republican, so what?
How many farmers do you think there are?
Trump will lose California by a landslide, possibly the biggest in history.

It's gonna be a great, great landslide.
Some of the best landslides ever.
Involving some of the best people.
Occurring in a great state.

It was the wealthy agricultural industry owners in California that first combined the ultra rich and poor religious groups in the republican party.

They knew it would be difficult to get the average person to vote for laws that would only benefit the ultra rich.

They took on the causes of the religious community, at least they said they did. The payoff was they got very close to 50% of the voting public.

The religious community would go along with just about anything to benefit the rich as long as you said you were on their side.

This happened during the dust bowl years and has continued on to this day.

I'd say the pastors of the mega churchs love this relationship.

I know some folks who work on CA water distribution. The Delta Smelt is blamed for running water through the delta and out to the Bay. While required under ESA, the real reason for the water movement is to keep saltwater at bay. If they din't run the water downstream, they seemed the farmers saltwater. Fum ducks.

Jay-Jay moved several NCW counties up from "Phase 1.5 to 2" yesterday!! (We feel like the Jefferson's over here!!) Interesting how the news media report "the data" differently.

The local rag here reports the actual Covid #'s as reported by the health dists on a daily account. To move from phase 1.5 to 2, "Inslee's restart plan was supposed to require counties to get down to 25 positives cases per 100,000 people over a two-week period. Chelan and Douglas counties are at about 138 positive cases per 100,000 people, according to the health district." Out of curiosity I read a similiar article this morning on the Seattle Times website, which lacked any of the wonky math to substantiate this sudden "promotion" for 5 Eastern/Central Wa counties. The Times just reported that Jay moved 5 more counties up to Phase 2 (YAY JAY!!)

Is Jay feelin' the heat in the kitchen from (Gulp!) Culp? Probably not, maybe just tired of everybody bitchin' at him?


https://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/chel...f273fabb7d.html

Such BS.
Covid.......The virus so bad you need a test to know you have it.

Obesity kills.
Will they control our fork next?

Other people's stupid behavior relating to the "hoax" could very easily kill me, or leave me with long term health problems.

Other people's stupid eating habits may affect my wallet due to paying for their health care, but leaves me otherwise healthy and happy.

Far more areas of our lives could get back to normal if a certain segment of the population would just follow a few simple precautions.

This idea appears to be lost on a segment of society that is challenged in comprehending many aspects of critical thinking skills.

Thus my point, currently Chelan/Douglas Counties are at 138 cases/100K and the threshold to move to Phase 2 is 25 cases/100K. Seems Jay-Jay may fit into that segment of the population who's "critical thinking skills" are severely compromised?

I admit there could be WAY more issues at play than I'm privy to, but he has used the positive cases/100k as the litmus test for migrating up/down the Phase chart.

Ah yes. My Father In Law.

trump and his values, ethics and low character are the leading cause of the demise of the American way of life.

Vote trump....out.

It really is that simple.

That is too funny.. What's Trump got to do with it? Look at these states that are Democratic led states... For that matter, let's just take a look at our home state and how fiscally responsible our Governor is..... This is our problem, wouldn't you agree?

Dimslee F RATING

Go Governor Inslee! And he ran for president

Keith

Keith you should go fishing instead of voting, we will all be better off.

Right.. Fiscal responsibility, a subject that ruffles the feathers of the left.. Why is that?

Keith

We're 7 trillion further in debt than in 2016, and the deficit was nearly a trillion dollars before the covid-19 outbreak.

You can't vote Republican and claim fiscal responsibility any more. Those days are long gone.

What's worse than a tax and spend Democrat?
It's a tax break and spend Republican.
FYI Republicans are only fiscally conservative when they are out of power.

Rebublitards would vote for Satan himself if he said he was for fiscal responsibility and anti-abortion.

Peel back the layers and maybe the results from Repooplitards and Demotards are essentially the same, but Repooplitards voted for Satan.

I want decent classy man for President, not a man who represents our worst selves, it is that simple. Same goes for governor.

Dan, yes on paper we are just that. No matter what administration was in the last 4 years, there would be a large deficit considering the World Wide Covid pandemic..

The big Q is would it only be 7T or would it be more if Pelosi and crew had a Democratic Senate/Pres? Trump added 2T before the pandemic as of Feb 2019. But who's kidding, the national debt is a number that's compounding beyond repair and reduction. But let's just fix it with more taxes!!

Keith

Keith stop watching entertainment news.

C'mon...

Keith

I know you're trolling but seriously tell that to my mom who spent nearly 2 weeks in the hospital with Covid. AND she's still having relapses months later.

I wish her the best and a speedy recovery, no one wants to deal with the covid [Bleeeeep!]...

Keith

Thank you, Keith.

Covid sucks.
No doubt about it.
I wish her and you a happy and healthy life.
It's unfortunate that it doesn't treat everyone equally.

You do make a good point, but... if you point that same finger to the top you get the same bottom line, total failure, ineptitude, "F" grade now add on no quality of character, a denigration of society and total disregard for the truth and you've got trump.....might as well start at the top and work down.

Prioritizing is a skill, sometimes you just have to.

The same goes for watching all news including your “sources”. There is no such thing as unbiased media/news anymore. Believing otherwise is lying to yourself or Evo level stupid.

That's it get it all out Sreamer, your time on the island maybe coming to a end sooner than you might think.
lol

I’m certainly hoping so! The consolation will be if I win... meaning your sorry ass is gone at least.

Illahee is another Rosie O'donell. All lip service, he won't leave on a lost bet...

I know my words good, I'm done, gone and outta this joint after election day and I either pay or collect my $50.....

Keith

I don't think you know me from squat Keith, but from what you write about politics, I'd say your a loyal Fox News follower, who doesn't know his ass from a plate of peas.

Your problem Illashee is that you think anyone even slightly right leaning is an uneducated, knuckle dragging, sister humping Trump supporter. I lean slightly right of center but not by a ton. You mischaracterize my beliefs constantly when in fact I am more level headed and closer to being neutral than yourself. I think many Democrats are decent people and I will even vote for good Democrats. That is because politics are on a spectrum, they are not a dichotomy no matter how much you try to convince yourself of it. But more likely, simplifying an issue and categorizing into only two boxes (my box is good your box is bad) is probably easier for your small brain to comprehend and to better simplify complex things.

PP
The wild fish loving liberal Washingtonian fishing site.

Pretty pathetic what this place has become.

ALL the good ones have quit this place long ago.

Wouldn’t figure you’d write much more than that. In all due respect I play along here. It’s sad to see such a left leaning guy like yourself that’s so closed minded.

Something happen to you in the past you want to share that took you so far left?

Keirh

Illashee never writes a post longer than a few sentences. It doesn’t come as much of a surprise though. I’ve pointed this out in the past. To be taken seriously requires having a degree of depth/substance and demonstrating understanding that is a bit more than just a surface level or rudimentary. Illashee fails to show any depth... about anything. This is why nobody really takes him seriously.

It is interesting how the political left takes pride in embracing diversity except when it comes to diversity of thought. I see Republicans being more open-minded and willing to listen than Democrats... and that comes as a big surprise to me.

Lol anyone who takes anything here seriously must have some serious problems!

Dos Muchos, wise words!

I was just outside as I started loading the pickup for this upcoming weekend of deer season, and I closed the tailgate (not slammed) and immediately a bull cracked off a bugle very clsoe by! Hearing things like that sure puts things in perspective, a good perspective!

The yard elk have been going crazy for the last week, as they really started acting up at my place last Thursday night. There have been 4 bulls around the place quite often as soon as it's dark.

Monday morning I finished my conference call at 5:15 and I kept hearing "something" outside, but was ignoring the disturbance (I thought it was the kid or wife listening to a pod cast) until it dawned on me the elk were so close I could hear the bugles from inside the house! I walked out on the deck and 4 different bulls were close enough (in the dark) to be heard from inside the house! Tuesday morning was a replay of Monday, pretty neat-o if you ask me. Wednesday (today) I was up a few hrs earlier at 2:45 to work on a bid. I let the cat out, and walked outside to see if the rain/wind had stopped (been nautical the last few days) and coughed. BAM, cow-call maybe 50yds away! "Holy shait" I said to myself, another one, and another, soon they were all yappin' it seemed. The neighborhood herd was between my place and my neighbors place, combined there's a couple of acres of "pasture" available for them to graze in.

I talked back a little, just enough to re-assure myself that I'm not an elk, but they didn't seem to mind. I could hear them walking around, every time a car drove by all the conversing stopped until the tailights went around the bend. The cat was soon wet from the pasture grass and we both tired from listening to the language we couldn't understand. 3am, I went down to my office to work. And yet I'm thinking of moving away due to implants and political climate...hmmm, times they are a changin'!

Phukk politics!

So well said.
I share all that.
Except the cat.
Keep it real and always scream back at the bull.
Sounds like a great life.

It's funny when people call being wrong "diversity of thought".

2+2=4 you dumb cvnt, and saying 2+2=5 isn't diversity of thought, it's just being a fuckin retard.

Donald Trump is a fat, lazy fukk. Fact.

Sorry if your vagina is sore now.

LOL Keith and 1 x 0 = 0 are so far to the right that they accuse centrists as liberal.

They don't like Inslee because he supports windmills. They do cause cancer you know because Doctor Trump said so.

I'm more conservative and Republican than most that have labeled me "liberal" because of my vocal mistrust/distrust/contempt for trump, that clown is the wrong person for the wrong job, proving it again and again by filling the swamp to depths that were unimaginable in any of our previous administrations... he's much better suited for the center square in Hollywood squares or the host of The Price is Right.

This isn't about the economy, or even D Vs R it's about the low character, non existent ethics and moral decline that trump has made acceptable, leading the easily lead down to his level and making a mockery of the USA, all in the name of personal gain and ego.

Vote trump....out.

Cross the next bridge when we get to it.

Priorities.

Your example is a false equivalency. Facts cannot be disputed but ideas can be. Diversity of thought is centered around ideas. Within the context of this discussion, it relates to politics and the idealogical difference between conservatives and leftists. Neither are particularly wrong. They primarily differ in thought around what the role of government ought to be. Conservatives believe in the government having a minimal role whereas leftists believe the role of government to be considerable. You know this.

There is no sore “vagina” but I expected to see a more thought filled post from an “educated” man. But par for the course seems to be acting indignant instead of backing down. It’s a similar trait to what Evo has.

Now would be the appropriate time to dismiss yourself from the discussion.

Thanks for that story. Really cool to have horny bulls talkin [Bleeeeep!] to each other so close.

But....do you not see the irony in that you say “Phukk politics” and yet you are the one thinking about leaving paradise because by the sounds of it some libtards are moving in?

I work with conservative Trump lovers, have one if those home made giant Trump 2020 signs a stones throw away from my house, and I hate Trump, but I would never consider leaving my home because of that.

I must be so far to the right because my ideology and thought process differs from yours.. Go back and read, I've stated Inslee did a great job with the Covid, better than most Governors. He led well in the moment and as a state (metro/populated areas). He sucks fiscally, period...

Windmills? I wish I had property that had windmills.

Keith

If you are looking to Cato for your "facts" about economics, you may as well be listening to Hannity or Tucker, they are just as accurate.

Washington State consistently ranks in the Top 10 for income (10th right now), and is in the bottom 1/3 or so for overall tax burden (29 out of 50 right now).

We are #10 in the country in GDP per capita, and #19 in economic growth (GDP).

When schit hits the fan nationally, we are consistently one of the last, if not the last state to feel the pain, and we are one of the first, if not the very first to begin the recovery, with a smaller dip in between the two than most anywhere else.

Why would we want to switch to a party that has proven since the 80s, both nationally and locally, that looting the taxpayers for the rich is their goal?

As with whining about economics by most who are ignorant of it, the whining comes from the Socialist counties that take far more tax dollars than they produce, all the while complaining about us 206ers who are paying their way.

Fish on...

Todd

Steamer - goes to the dark side looking for enlightenment, reason and rational discussion.



This, of course, confirms my suspicion that Steamer is a retard and should not be taken seriously. Knucklehead hasn't learned a thing in all his time here. I bet his school just gave him a degree so he'd leave.

You say it like there is something wrong with that..?

Right, who doesn't keep the rainy day fund? I mean, do you walk life living paycheck to paycheck or do you save some for those [Bleeeeep!] up situations in life that happen? When you spend more than you have coming in, it creates problems.... But then again, you can just RAISE TAXES to compensate for the differences.

This is something that should be taught in school at a younger age. It's a sad deal for the younger generations to come.

Keith

I'm sure it was the best move for everyone involved.

So, Keith, in spite of the fact that Washington State ranks well in every facet of the economy, you agree with Cato that we have the worst economy in the nation, and it's Inslee's fault for not having a rainy day fund?

I see your economics degree is being put to good use.

This reminds me of Spent Metal telling us how amazing Trump is at "the economy", and I showed him actual facts that show our economy is worse off with Trump, and he said that "numbers" aren't facts.

This are the kinds of dipshits who vote against their own interests every day because they are too dumb to manage simple numbers.

Fish on...

Todd

It's not worth arguing Todd.. An apple is apparently not an apple.

The state budget passed by Washington state lawmakers in March had a $4.5 billion hole blown through it.

The State’s Economic and Revenue Forecast Council predicted the current 2019-2021 budget will fall short of needed revenues by an estimated $4.5 billion. The 2021-2023 budget is predicted to be $4.3 billion below what was estimated in February.

But hey, we rank very well in every facet of the economy. I totally understand the logic...

Keith

You clowns better run along now and recharge your brains via your Twitter and Facebook accounts.

Don't forget to set aside time to sit around and boo hoo about some liberal actor or old sports star that croaked.

Liberal is as liberal does.

He uses his fisheries degree in a like manner.
lol

Yup, fisheries degrees are knee jerk reactionary degrees, just like the economic degree that Inslee has..

Oh [Bleeeeep!], we have a short fall... What now???

Keith

The darkside is certainly the last place to look for enlightenment... but it is always the first place to look for cheap ‘n sleazy entertainment. But it’s a great place to call a spade a spade.

I think you’re a little fvck nugget but I’d still buy you a beer or let you jump in the boat any time. I don’t hold grudges against people. I don’t take things that seriously.

Keith, I'll ask you the same question I asked Bent Metal...

By what standard are you measuring how good or bad the economy is?

Fish on...

Todd

Hopefully he's measuring it by his own bank account instead of waiting to be told on Facebook, Twitter, or Piscatorial Pussies.

The degree of gullibility in America is only eclipsed by it's stupidity.

Good to see you have at least a degree of wisdom.

And thanks for being a good example.

Spoken like a proud American with an axe to grind.

I wasn't arguing about having a good to great economy (which we've always had here in WA IMHO), I was discussing the Governors job for our state. The fact that he spends more than the budget on a consistent basis and with Covid he's got us set up for a 4.5B shortfall over the next few years. I just don't understand the logic I guess.

Everyone here less a few cries about Trump going bankrupt and how he's a [Bleeeeep!] business owner and runs the country like [Bleeeeep!]. Just seems we have a Governor that does the same I guess. I guess an apple really is an orange on the dark side...

Keith

Some have to wonder how that one sperm actually made it... [Bleeeeep!]'s beyond me.

Keith

This much dumbfuckery deserves it's own slow painful payback.
Trump's executive orders will be flushed down like a big turd, then the investigations into corruption will begin.

You spend a little too much time with the ladle in hand.

Keith

Moody's Analytics and Goldman Sachs both predict better market performance under a Biden administration than a Lardass administration.

They know Fatty is a complete knob that's in over his stupid head.

I like money.

What a Cuckold. lol

stlhdr1, Isn't this budget short fall being caused by low tax-collections due to the Covid recession? And how does that compare to other states this year?

Ouch.

The difference being it's OK if you are a Libtard sack sucker, vs a RWWJ like Trump

Sack sucker.

Good summary Todd. Neither the Democrats nor Republicans are my particular cup of tea, but the above pretty well covers why I end up voting for libtard Democrats more often than Republicans. Well those, and the social issues where control freak Rs want to ban abortions and keep gays in the closet, all the while transfering money from the middle class (me) to the richest 1%ers.

I agree with Keith that Inslee is not a good financial steward. Hardly any politicians are, D or R. Rs used to stand for fiscal responsibility, but that train left the station long ago.

It seems obvious, but I must be missing something, that a socially "liberal" fiscally "conservative" candidate for local and statewide councils and legislatures should have a good chance of winning.

It's like we know that "defund" the Police won't work but rework them, fund them adequately, and fund the necessary social services, courts, and jails should. But no candidate seems to be able to hold those diverse thoughts in one brain.

Seems simple, we don't need to defund the police, but rather revisit the definition of qualified immunity.
It needs to be a tool for accountability instead of the shield it's used for today.

We need more than that. We need to allow the police to police and not be social services folks. We need to not only fund mental health but actually deal with the problems so that they don't go crazy on the streets. We need to a actually do something about the homeless, and that includes providing safe places to live, treating drug abuse, preventing crime. It's a lot of things, no simple answers, but we have to fund answers and not just speak in sound bites.

So, Dimslee tweets this today: "Washington passed 100,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 today. Every choice you make right now matters."
Right now? Oh, NOW you mean. So, the past 7 months of mask mandates, social distancing, business shutdowns, school closures....those didn't work, they just put people out of work and out of touch. But NOW we're going to make better choices? What choices? Typical Dimmer, just words but no answers or plan. What a leader.

If you're going to hammer Inslee on something at least pick a topic and angle that makes sense.

It mattered then and it matters now, don't follow the recommendations and pay the price, its that simple.

Lots of other stuff to go after him for, this one is weak.

Good to see you are capable of rational thought. You should use it more often.

Definitely. Plenty of other things to go after him for. This is weak.

It has mattered all along if you wanted to end this pandemic...has it mattered to you, yet? I'm guessing not.

Fish on...

Todd

lol

That's what you're gweebing about today?

I still have the garden hose hooked up out back if you need to use it to wash the sand out of your mangina.

Christ.

Masks matter... But until you can get people to stop the at home gatherings as if it's a safe place, this pandemic will keep at it's pace or escalating. It's common for people to trust those they know most and let their guard down in these moments. Imho it's the number one factor to the case #'s...

Keith

So, Governor Apple Maggot's campaign team has done a good job these past few weeks....they have kept the Dimmer quiet. Not much talking, no shooting basketballs and kept him away from fruit.
The Dimmer will win today because our state is full of libtards, but hopefully he'll see how many of us voted for Culp and he'll realize that he needs to improve as governor. Maybe in time he can move up from #50 to #49 in the nation's ranking. But I doubt it. More than likely, he'll just speed up the rotation of the water in the toilet as our state continues to be flushed into the sewer.

Agree.

...is it tomorrow yet?

Idaho isn't that far, why not move away from the libtards, move in next to bubba a burn a MAGA cross in your front yard.

Courd'laine yall!! I know I misspelled that dgaf

[/quote]Idaho isn't that far, why not move away from the libtards, move in next to bubba a burn a MAGA cross in your front yard. [/quote]

That is a distinct possibility for us, as the property values continue to escalate in Central Wa. With the increase in property values, our property taxes have steadily increased as well. Mainly driven by the retiring implants from parts to the West and South (but not entirely, as there's increased industry, plus additional medical facilities as well). Subsequently, the surrounding areas of my 'burg are expanding to accommodate these new inhabitants.

This all adds up to "more people", in an area where the cities infrastructure was designed 40+ years ago. There have been some modernizations, but overall the towns are WAY behind in upgrading. With more people comes the problems that larger towns have; how to balance the budgets and where to distribute the monies (City/County), increased crime (unsure if there's an exponetional relationship?), and for me personally the loss of the "smaller town feel".

Now the last issue is totally subjective, as a lot of the folks moving in are doing so for this very reason. And within 2 years (once the kid is done with HS/AA) we may be moving away. It's all relative, eh? At least we'll do well on resale.

I was listing to a Dave Ramsey broad cast and was listing to someone talk about how cheap they could live. It was sad to realize that the taxes on my home, alone, were jsut slightly lower than the house payment they were making. I live in Pierce County, so a huge chunk of that is going to pay for mass transit that I will never use. Add in the 4th highest gas taxes in the nation for roads that are in adequate, and I too am thinking it might be time to move.

Yeah...many things to consider, I wonder how the people feel who are already where those leaving here will go? It's a good guess that the locals will generally resent the housing prices being driven up and that taking the general cost of living up with it, I 'spose it will be much like the local Washingtonians felt about the Cali invasion 20/30 years ago, staying ahead of the curve can be the goal but an unintentional consequence will be a deterioration of someone else's lifestyle.
I am choosing to stick around and attempt to make my surroundings better, just bought 14 acres in Pierce Co and am planning to kill a few brain cells in dealing with county and building barns and a house and living happily ever after.... I guess we will see.

And that's where I'm torn, as I still love this state, or what I remember it once as. We've also thought of just moving North or NE a couple of hours. Family/friends are still prevalent, the property is considerably cheaper, and the towns are smaller but still have the required amenities for us.

And I do feel for you guys in the highly taxed regions on the West side, especially when you don't get any direct benefit from some of the mandatory taxes (light rail). My monthly property taxes are right at what my 1st house payment was when I bought 27 years ago here (just P&I). Crazy! On the flip side, my current place with 4 acres has quadrupled in "street value" with today's insane real estate market. That's in 21 years of ownership, but who knows if a correction is looming?

We've also looked at selling, and just moving to the other side of town and building our final place (1 acre of flat ground). Totally cost-prohibitive in the big picture, as once we'd sell the current and buy the ground and build the house, we'd just be trading dollars. So, if we stay, our current plan is to build a new house on the adjacent 2 acres. Once completed, then sell the house and the 2 acres it's on. The parcels are separate anyhow, so no paperwork is needed and the move would only be about 150 yards. Nice to have options at least.

I have 13 acres for sale in West Kingston for $200K. Has a barn and a salmon/steelhead stream and deer. Going to get a soil study done in addition to the 2 wetland studies I already have. Has electricity and a fence.

Hey Jaybone, you've been blaming Trump for months for how he has handled Covid, but YOUR state is surging in numbers. I thought you had it all figured out and under control?
Now you're going to shut down indoor dining and cancel Thanksgiving? Stellar work buddy. What's next? No fishing or golf and canceling Christmas?
Make sure you ignore the Health Department's alert of increased children suicides due to depression from no school, no activities, no sports, and no interaction with their friends. Children Covid deaths in WA: 0. Suicides: Dozens. Including children of people I know.

Has Jay handled Covid perfectly? No. But I think he got it mostly right, which makes it the highlight of his governorship.

When uncertainty is great, smart people exercise the cautionary principle. Inslee has done that. Did he get it wrong sometimes? Heck yeah, but a lot of that was when far, far less was known about the virus than is now, in addition to some choices that appear to have been purely or mostly political. I expect new shutdowns to be more and better targeted than they were last spring.

To blame any politician on how they handled Covid is a disservice imo. It’s a fluid situation and hindsight is always 20/20.

And nothing from the federal government but "let us know how it worked out".

Don't worry.
Jay will expect the Feds to help foot the bill for his shutdown.

Maybe as he should a bit?
Mind telling me the last time you saw McConnell bring a covid aid relief package to the floor? Even though several have been pasted with bipartisan support thru the house, meanwhile millions of taxpayers and businesses suffer...

...the snowflakes don't want to wear a mask, the Chancellor of the American Reich turmp mocks those that wear a mask and take Thecovid seriously, Thecovid spreads because of it and the retards want to blame Inslee.....?

Then again, why would I expect anything less?

Take responsibility, people.

Isn't it ironic that freedom and taking responsibility for your actions are opposing forces in this day and age? When did that switch happen? I remember when it seemed like conservatives were the responsible ones in the room. Now it seems like they are the party of the do what I want when I want and any morality is out the window whenever the going gets tough. The hypocrisy runs deep.

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Isn't it ironic that freedom and taking responsibility for your actions are opposing forces in this day and age? When did that switch happen? I remember when it seemed like conservatives were the responsible ones in the room. Now it seems like they are the party of the do what I want when I want and any morality is out the window whenever the going gets tough. The hypocrisy runs deep. [/quote]


Great post and so true.

Beezer with the truth!!

I feel for the restaurant owners, small retail, gym owners etc that will be greatly affected by the latest orders... but, it's a no brainer to not share space with dozens of unknowns greatly increasing your vectors to possibly infected people. Highly encourage supporting these people as much as possible with takeout, curbside pickup, video workout sessions, etc. Not just to ensure they'll still be around later but to help them support their families. Takes more effort to source and order from small businesses locally than just ordering on Amazon but we'd be the hypocritical ones if we're not willing to put forth a bit more effort to support our neighbors.

Congress sucks! Doesn't really need much more explanation than that but, Mitch could have brought relief to a vote and Nancy could have put up a bill that would have sailed through months ago. I believe both are guilty of party over people!

Masks are a no brainer as far as risk reduction is concerned but, they don't eliminate the risk. I fear that otherwise smart, responsible, caring people put on a mask and participate in risky situations thinking they're all good with the mask on. Too lazy to look up the study I read but it showed that 85% of people contracting Covid are regular mask wearers. If you've got to go to Freddies go at 10:00 pm instead of 6:00 pm - there's 10% the crowd and that alone reduces your risk of exposure 90% more than wearing a mask alone. Wear the mask. But, don't be stupid!

Not an Inslee fan but have to agree he's done a decent job with Covid - just as long as he doesn't shut down fishing again! Although he may as well since his goons @ WDFW killed our blackmouth season!!

That is a distinct possibility for us, as the property values continue to escalate in Central Wa. With the increase in property values, our property taxes have steadily increased as well. Mainly driven by the retiring implants from parts to the West and South (but not entirely, as there's increased industry, plus additional medical facilities as well). Subsequently, the surrounding areas of my 'burg are expanding to accommodate these new inhabitants.

This all adds up to "more people", in an area where the cities infrastructure was designed 40+ years ago. There have been some modernizations, but overall the towns are WAY behind in upgrading. With more people comes the problems that larger towns have; how to balance the budgets and where to distribute the monies (City/County), increased crime (unsure if there's an exponetional relationship?), and for me personally the loss of the "smaller town feel".

Now the last issue is totally subjective, as a lot of the folks moving in are doing so for this very reason. And within 2 years (once the kid is done with HS/AA) we may be moving away. It's all relative, eh? At least we'll do well on resale. [/quote]

I got bad news for you Snit, your are more than welcome here but if you are looking to escape higher home prices and higher property taxes that train left the station here about 6 years ago. In the Coeur d' Alene and Post Falls area housing prices have risen dramatically in the last 5 years and along with that property taxes because of increased assessed value. We moved here almost 11 years ago and there were plenty of houses available under $200K, not now, in fact there really isn't any housing available, unless you can outbid 11 other people. My house has gone up over $200,000 in 5 years. My neighbor across the street had 13 bids over the asking price, one was for $50k over his asking price. The house was gone in less than 24 hours.

We are getting droves of people moving in from the Seattle area, Texas, California, and Arizona. Now that many people can work from home that has just accelerated the number of people moving here. Traffic congestion is becoming a real problem and our infrastructure is falling way behind. Locals are upset because they are being priced out and even rents have gone up substantially.

We have a state income tax of about 7.6% and a 6% sales tax, which includes food (however you get a rebate on the food part at tax time). There is no tax on services, for example when I had a landscaper come in I didn't have to pay tax on the plants and other items because it was considered service. With that said, not sure how you would fair on taxes; definitely less then the Seattle area, where I came from. you also get a break on property taxes, but the fast paced housing market is still driving property taxes up.

Consider the cost of medical too. What you pay varies from state to state, and county to county.

Overall though it cost less to live here because wages are so low.

Yes, the property values have gone up considerably over here. I avoided Idaho due to the income-tax, the bang for the buck was better in WA than ID for housing too.

As for the 85% mask wearing statistic. It was a little misleading because those people self reported, and also said they had visited restaurants and bars, where masks weren't worn. I do tech service type work, every customer I talk with claims they did everything "right" and didn't get the desired result. The deeper you dig the more you find out all the things they didn't do correctly.

I have friends that still have get togethers with family and friends in their homes and say it's safe because they know these people. They wear masks all the time in public though. This is where most people get exposed. You can wear a mask 100% of the time when you're out in public and still get it when socializing privately.

Trump's strategy was have the governors take the beating for implementing rules for lock downs, then he could be the hero of the grand openings.

It's a no win situation for implementing a lock down. If it works well the non believers say "see, it wasn't that bad, we didn't need a lock down."

If it still gets bad, but not as bad as it could have been. The non believers say "see, it didn't work."

Remember non believers don't need facts, Trump gives them all the information they need to make an informed decision.

It used to be that owners were excited by rising home prices.

Have a place in both states.

Inslee is Biden's bitch.

Bahh Bahhh Bahh.

Idaho has been in worse shape than Washington with infection rates, and Spokane County has been far worse than west-side counties for infection rates.

It's the Culp/Trump non compliant hoax crowd that tends to drive infection rates higher.

Spokane? Idaho? Infections?

Sounds like just another Friday night in the Palouse!!!

Time to crack open that cold Cuurs Lite and get the party on!!!!!

Turn up the tunes and sing along to to Eric Clapton's Cocaine:

When you been drivin' all day
Ain't seen nothing but hay
Spokane (Spo-caine)

When you're down on your luck
And they repo your truck
Spokane (Spo-caine)

It's Spokane
It's Spokane
It's Spokane, son
Spokane (Spo-caine)

When the Cougars get hot
They'll be drinkin' a lot
Spokane (Spo-caine)

When there's no place to go
'Cept for Idaho
Spokane (Spo-caine)

It's Spokane
It's Spokane
It's Spokane

Spo-Caine

All good points fellas!

In our (2) county area of Chelan/Douglas there have been 29 deaths in 11 months, and the youngest person to succumb was 41 years old. It's been reported that all of the unfortunate folks who have perished had some other ongoing health issues when they contracted The Virus.

We minimize our exposure, and "mask up" when going out in the real world. Why take the chance?

'Cuz tyranny, that's why.

And hoaxes, of course.

There are a lot of fuckin idiots in the world. I'd say they are selfish, but I don't think they are smart enough to be selfish...they are just stupid.

Fish on...

Todd

Hey Dimmer, can you explain this to me.....why is it that those in jail are still allowed to use their exercise rooms, lift weights, do yoga classes, etc, as long as they are social distancing? I heard that some offenders in a Thurston county facility are still allowed to play pickle ball and ping pong. But all of us private citizens, especially children who need it for their physical and mental well-being, and who have committed no crimes aren't allowed to?
Unbelievable. And you libtards support Jaybone.

Sorry, but that isn't even a remotely comparable situation.

It's a typical argument that makes no sense in an attempt to avoid facts and confuse the issue.

Let's congratulate Trump for giving more credit to stupid arguments and comparisons.

Glugghbhrrgg blurrbbll

Lol. For real? We are going to talk about inmates playing pickle ball? JTFC.

I get it you are hurting. You may be hurting really really bad. Just remember that so are most of everybody else.

There are 3! highly effective vaccines coming. Thank God!

Now I understand why dude's been divorced so many times.

To be fair ,women are annoying. Not as annoying as grown men sniveling because they can't have their way.

It’s worse than that IMO. I think a lot of these people upset about random $hit nobody should know about anyway (Example: inmates playing pickle ball), are just upset because a media personality told them to be.

Too much outrage and talking points are just manufactured and the masses eat it up.

I ignore most of the media these days because so much of it is basically, “Here is what you should be mad about today....”

Happy my home has gone up substantially in value. However, if your a buyer, especially a local buyer, your probably not too happy. A lot of people are simply being outbid by more wealthy buyers, especially cash buyers.

Not sure what there is to snivel about unless you're trump redefining the meaning of the word sniveler, be happy...we've done what we can, we got trump headed in the right direction, most of his problems should follow soon.

...though I don't expect his sniveling to stop anytime soon.

I just listed a house yesterday, yeehaw for high home prices!

I just bought a house two months ago, too...bummer for high home prices!

The good thing is that the interest rates are so low right now that I was able to afford a much more expensive house than I expected, and the customer base for buying my old house is a lot bigger thanks to low interest rates, too!

Win-win on interest rates...a wash on the rest.

Fish on...

Todd

I didn't get a great deal on the place I bought over here, but it checked more boxes on my list than any of the other prospects. I paid a little extra to get for some amenities that I really enjoy. It was about half the price of something on the west side, but more than other options over here.

It's gone up rapidly, from what the properties right around me sold for recently I could already make an excellent profit.

I may start looking again, only more remote and isolated. The covid lockdown regulations don't affect my lifestyle much, it does affect my work though, I don't travel nearly as much.

Ruh ro....Dimslee is threatened with legal action from Kittitas County commissioners for failing to recognize local health authorities role in determining the correct response for their county.
It's always nice when a Governor has legal action against him from one of his own counties. Speaks volumes of his leadership.
#applemaggot #ranked50th

Do those volumes explain why he got re-elected, again?

More like local officials trying to deflect blame.

Its not uncommon for officials down the food chain to dispute actions by higher authorities when the locals don't like what's recommended.

Privately these officials may agree, but divert blame for difficult decisions to stay in their locally appointed or elected offices.

Or, they just may be stupid too.

Is it one of the welfare nanny counties?

The tules have vanished but never fear as the seasonal moldy chums have arrived to take their place.

Quit fishing for the moldy chums, snake! While not on the DSA (Darkside Endangered Species), for some reason they are kinda on the protected list and way too easy to hook!

Ok, who am I kidding?

Troll away, Snake! You are on a roll with these libtards^Z^Z^Z^Z^Z^Z^Z^Zchumsters. You've got them all horned up and in a feeding frenzy!

They just keep biting and biting any and all of your crap bait. I shudder to imagine what you'd catch if you tossed out a nice juicy ball of UEC infused bait......

Even old moldy bait works well at times.

Snake slips it in for the win.

Over 300 Guests Attended a Washington Wedding. Now 40 People Have COVID-19.
Pilar Melendez

Leon Neal/Getty Images
At least 40 cases of the coronavirus have been linked to a wedding held in rural Washington earlier this month, a possible COVID-19 “superspreader” event that has left health officials begging all 300 attendees to quarantine.

The Grant County Health District on Wednesday confirmed to The Daily Beast that overnight, 23 more people have tested positive for COVID-19 in connection with the Nov. 7 wedding near Ritzville, Washington—a rural eastern Washington town with a population of only 1,649. Officials say the wedding has since caused a spike in COVID-19 in the area, and they expect more cases in the coming days.

Snake must be a fishing guide...or at least have a nice boat....

Failing marks for this new round of restrictions. So, religious gatherings are exempt huh? Does that include Scientology or the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster or only REAL religions?

Instead of developing a vaccine, we should just all become religious - as its apparently a force field to the virus.

Play politics much Inslee?

Okay!

Church of the Living Man.

So there's a religion based on being around large numbers of other people?
So there's no being religious alone?
What a odd fvckin religion.
I like a religion based on being away from large numbers of other people.

You are the religion of red rubber noses. You should put yours away soon, clown seasons over...

Keith

This might be a good time to STFU Keith, lay low for a while then come back with "I never voted for that guy" you know like Hank used to do.

A Trump supporting pastor had this to say before he and his wife test positive.



Jackson insisted in March, in the early days of the pandemic, that Christians “don’t have to” catch the potentially deadly virus, and he vowed to continue holding in-person church services in violation of Gov. Ralph Northam’s social distancing mandates.

“I don’t have the coronavirus,” Jackson said at the time. “I’m not going to get the coronavirus. I’m not going to give anybody the coronavirus, because I can’t get it, because I talked to God about it, and I’ve taken my vaccine. My vaccine is Psalm 91, and I am free from that mess.”

Send money first, then god will make everything ok.
Psalm $100......
SF

Psalm stupid 3:16

I didn't vote for Trump, I voted for the party. Trump is the reason the party lost imho. But it's certainly apparent we are an apple and an orange.

No matter how you slice it, the future will be challenged in this country. But that's ok, it's just 4 years...

Keith

The number of people complaining about Inslee, yet defending or saying nothing about Trump is amazing.

Trump had an "unusual" style as president prior to the hoax flue, after that it was extremely troubling. Now it's a total meltdown of psychotic behavior.

Yet Inslee is their target.

I'm no fan of Inslee, but at least he's using the best available methods to actually try to do something.

Interesting how we can justify doing what we deep down know is wrong.

trump has been proving daily that party loyalty aside America made the right choice this time around.

Well we're complaining about Inslee instead of Trump in this thread because... well read the damn title!

Trumps too easy and with a ton of posts and threads already dedicated to his "uniqueness"

It was a comment on my observations of Inslee haters, not Trump.

dude...

Just a special thank you to Governor Apple Maggot for tweeting a 30 second video from the WA DOH showing people enjoying Thanksgiving and then in the hospital hooked up to respirators. No fear mongering going on here. No dramatic effect to scare your "Washingtonians". What a thoughtful, insightful, intelligent move by our 50th out 50 leader! Nice work Dimslee!

I get it....you see Inslee as 80,000,000 people see trump.

Look at the bright side, that 30 second video just may keep a few dumb basses from spreading the trump virus, giving you and Washingtonians one less thing to complain about all while helping the State and Country's economy get back on track.

Try to have a Happy Thanksgiving whatever you decide to do, I for one...have plenty to be thankful for.

....not watching TV is one of them.

(except football, I still watch football)

This may be the reason.

After months of following COVID-19 guidelines, a Texas family 'let their guard down' for a day. All 12 of them got sick.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/heal...ing/6411469002/

Some people tend to have a tough time understanding this stuff, sort of like string theory, quantum entanglement, UEC and other difficult subjects.

Maybe an education and some cognitive skills enhancement tutelage would help.

A little message to Jaydolf…. https://columbiabasinherald.com/news/2020/dec/10/commentary-i-survived-covid-are-we-making-cure-wor/

Has Culp conceded yet or is he asking for help from the Texas AG?
SF

That's funny....

Keith

Can't argue that there isn't collateral damage from these restrictions.

The other option is, lets all considere it a real virus, and not a hoax, then maybe we wouldn't be experiencing these huge spikes.

A little compliance would go a long way to opening many aspects of the economy up again.

Spokane County has become a real overachiever in the new infection category for the state.

trump's minions blaming those that have to clean up trump's mess.

Sound about right?

Those orange balls don't wash themselves.

Fish on...

Todd

I don't know that it's a matter if people are considering it a real virus. You are dealing with American human beings which on average (no matter the politcal party) the most selfish people on earth. Either they believe they're invisible, in too good of health to worry or just simply dumber than a box of rocks and the virus will keep spreading.

In my personal opinion, whether we were nearly forced to lockdown most humans and their selfish ways would justify a reason to do the complete opposite, you know the "it's not fair" thing...

Keith

The virus seems to reflect the mentality that got trump elected in the first place, it was obvious that no good could come from him and the anti-whatever the other guy is doing F'those guys crowd embraced him just like they promote covid.

America is infected with more than just covid, trump found a nice soft, fat and lazy America to infect...then infected it.

Agree. More than half of Americans are dumber than a box of rocks. But sadly, they won't admit it to themselves and instead go around believing they are really smart.

Selfish + stupid = a volatile mix. And we see the results daily.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mynorthwest.com/2360431/culp-campaign-lawsuit-secretary-of-state/amp/

Yeah.....he sees it working so well for trump that he doesn't want to miss his ride on that bandwagon.

He might want to re-consider his role model.

Evidence that can't or won't be produced is always so convincing.

It's been a good week for Jaydolf. He extended the statewide Covid restrictions to January 11th and he made sure that prisons got the vaccine before all health care workers, senior citizens, and essential workers did. Nice work Jaybone!
#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer

Sounds as clueless as our sh!tty governor,eating in 5 star French restaurants while banning Thanksgiving. Fkn hypocrites.

Imagine if trump would have taken his virus seriously, not mocked and belittled those that did and actually done his job. After one year Wuhan is basically virus free because they did what needed to be done to control it.

I'm not an Inslee fan but this is trumps baby and nobody else's.

Washington Covid cases are on the downturn. Covid is the largest cause of death and still the Trump morons are still in denial.

WA has something like, what, 6th lowest state in rate of Covid infections. I suppose that's because everything Inslee is doing is wrong?

I just wish Snake would stop crying so the rivers could drop back into shape.

ok that was A-1 trash talk.

Nice work Jaydolf. So far, the Department of Health said it has received 522,550 COVID-19 vaccine doses, of that, only 126,602 people got the shot. Less than 25% have been given out so far! That's on you Dimmer. You had nearly a year to prepare for this and you didn't have a plan....shocker!
#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#Dimmer

Not a Jay fan, but......the trump virus is on trump, first he ignored it, then he denied it, then he promoted it, then he just gave up to it. It's always tougher cleaning up a mess than making it.

Next you'll be bitching at Jay because the shot hurts.

Fauci ignored it... he knew it was coming in 2017 and did nothing about it...

funny how you anti government retards are all of a sudden pro government...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fact...eak/5494601002/


https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-d...isease-outbreak

I'm not sure any state was ready.

The Feds typically take the lead in this type of operation, they put together a master plan and help the states implement it.

This time the states were sent the vaccine and told they were on their own. Sort of like every other step in this fiasco.

In saying that, the states did have a bit of time to put together a plan of some sort. I'm guessing they don't have a person or team with the ability to coordinate something like this on such a large scale.

That's not a good excuse, just how it is.

Funnier how you started off as a retard and have gone consistently down from there.

The only question left is how stupid will you get before you forget how to breath.

You do understand that the infectious disease group was put together under Bush to study the threats.

Obama kept it going, but it wasn't a top priority, Trump disbanded it.

So Fauci warned Trump, and Trump dismissed it and stopped the program anyway.

I can see why you blame Fauci, in your mind it makes sense i guess.

as a recognized "world renowned infectious disease expert", knowing something is going to happen, and not demanding action, makes you part of the problem...

fvck a group, he is still the head of the NIH, and KNEW it was coming... the NIH isnt disbanded, and never will be...

people that think Trump is the cause, ARE the virus...

maybe we should get rid of them first...

Yep, Trump led they way on research and prevention of infectious diseases until Fauci got in his way and brought the program to a stop.


I'm glad you stepped in and explained all that to us, without your expertise on the subject the facts may not have led me to that conclusion.

Sure, retard.

Peter Dan, the little fairy has arrived...

yay...

2017 you say. Hmmm. I guess that's why it's called Covid 19.

They don't come any stupider than evo.

i posted the god damn article, and as usual, your non reading ass cant figure it out...

Walmart has hooked on phonics books in the clearance section, i suggest going and grabbing a few and get started lil tyke..

got Fauchois balls so far in your throat you cant even see straight...


gurgle gurgle... DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


" there will be a suprise outbreak"

heres the video bitch...

It is you who can't read, stupid. "surprise infectious disease outbreak" does not equal Covid 19. Jeez, you are such an imbecile I don't know why I even try to correct you, except for the fun in it.

so tell me what the infectious disease outbreak was that he was talking about?

AIDS?



what a fvckin geek...

Fauci hadn't finished the work in China to perfect it at that time, so it went unnamed at that point

It took them a while to make the virus attack US citizens faster and with more lethal outcomes. This delayed the release until late 2019.

Fauci is still working with China to create mutant strains to keep this going for a couple more years.

So typical of evo. No matter how wrong he is, he just keeps digging.

Dig, stupid, dig.

lol. Peter Dan. I know yer Laffin over there dan.

that was the dumbest thing i have ever heard. No stars for you.

The only thing i hear is you queefin.
That thing must be a sandblaster.

The number of Washington state Covid vaccinations that have been administered is now 32% out of the total vaccine doses available. Nice work Jaydolf. With your guidance and leadership, it will take another 3 months to administer the rest of the doses....and what about any new doses that arrive to our state?
You said at a press conference for "Washingtonians" to call their local hospital to see if they can get the vaccine. Really? That's your plan? Let's have millions of people call their local hospital for information that YOU should have provided.
But keep on focusing on climate change while vaccines aren't given, kids are dying of suicide (not Covid), drug abuse is up, alcohol abuse is up, depression is up, domestic abuse is up, and businesses are failing.
#Applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#Dimmer

Can't be worse than the [Bleeeeep!] show that is California right now.

The trumpvirus is trumps deal....trump and his supporters fiddled while Rome burned, now complain when those in charge of cleaning up after him can't keep up with the multitude of messes he's left behind.

Well Snake, it looks like you're right on this count. Since we already knew that federal facilitation in distribution would be limited, cuz Trump had no plan, the states should have been better prepared for when the vaccine did arrive to get it distributed and with a plan for who gets it and when, and on down the list.

If you don't like Washington then move to Florida so you can suck off Governor DeSantis and get COVID.

So, the Dimmer just finished a press conference and set a new personal best record for saying "Washingtonions".
When asked why he hasn't done a better job of getting the vaccine out (of which he admitted was "clunky") he went to the Jaybone playbook and did one of the following:
Blame Trump.
Mumble about goals, not specific plans.
Ask others at the press conference to answer the questions.
#Applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#Dimmer

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Inslee.

This vaccine thing was dumped on the states with little to no help from the Feds.

States had to hire qualified people to make a plan, then train people to carry out the plan.

The Feds typically make a plan and help the states implement it.

Trump won't allow federal aid to the town of Malden that burned down last summer because he dislikes Inslee. So while other federal aid was put in place in days, Trump's personal feelings towards Inslee is in the way of helping towns in Eastern Washington that voted for Trump.

Inslee has had from 51-71% approval on his handling of the pandemic.

if you don't like it move!

Hopefully to somewhere nice!!

Mr. Nice wants to move somewhere where it's 98.6 degrees.

That may be nice for some people,but I like around 65 to 69 degree weather. It's nice.

Looks like Washington hospitals aren't confident in Jaydolf…. https://komonews.com/news/local/hospital-association-concerns-about-inslee-vaccine-plan
You mean telling hundreds of thousands of "Washingtonians" to call their local hospital isn't a good plan? Shocker.
#Applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#Dimmer

I hope he moved to where it's warm.....and wet.

Seems he needed to get laid.

Where’s stam?

If you'd just be quiet for a minute you could probably hear him beating on your mom's back door.

You wanna take this sh!t up on mega?

Not sure what kind of weird sh!t you're into on "mega"...so no, not really.

LOL!!!

Fish on...

Todd

Looks like reefskunk bitched out again LOL!!!!

Let's go
Steve walks warily down the street
With his brim pulled way down low
Ain't no sound but the sound of his feet
Machine guns ready to go
Are you ready hey are you ready for this?
Are you hanging on the edge of your seat?
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat yeah
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust
How do you think I'm going to get along
Without you when you're gone
You took me for everything that I had
And kicked me out on my own
Are you happy are you satisfied?
How long can you stand the heat
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat look out
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust
Hey
Oh take it - Bite the dust bite the dust
Hey Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust ow
Another one bites the dust he he
Another one bites the dust haaaa
Ooh shoot out
There are plenty of ways that you can hurt a man
And bring him to the ground
You can beat him
You can cheat him
You can treat him bad and leave him
When he's down
But I'm ready yes I'm ready for you
I'm standing on my own two feet
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
Repeating to the sound of the beat
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust yeah
Hey I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust
Shoot out

Big dumb sensitive oaf will be back.

Welcome back, stupid.

So Dimslee has another black eye for our state. The American Lung Association has given WA several failing grades in regards to tobacco use in our state. Tobacco use is the #1 cause of preventable death in the state in case you didn't know. We got an F in funding tobacco prevention programs, an F in helping people quit and an F for not putting an end to the sale of flavored tobacco products.
Jaydolf can force us to wear masks, force businesses to close, force schools to close, basically force our lives to shut down, but he can't make a dent in tobacco abuse.
#Applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#Dimmer

Wow, you really have a beef with Inslee.

So people can't just quit doing something very stupid.....never mind.

Republicans should love not spending money on other people's health, isn't that part of their platform?

What happened to all the money Gregoire got from big tobacco? The state isn't going to try very hard to get people to quit anything when they receive heavy taxes from it.

Dumbfucks don't listen to Inslee.

You should know that.

lol....That is a high quality burn from the Sultan of Zzzzzzzing.

So, the 1 millionth dose of vaccine was given to a 90-year old woman from East Wenatchee. What does Dimslee do? He gives her a lifetime free pass on WA state ferries. Yep, that's what a 90-year old, wheelchair bound person from eastern Washington needs.....is a free ferry pass.
This surpasses his apple maggot Darwin award. Nice work Jaybone!

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#freeferrypass

Angry people here, are you representing her?

You should sue him for this.

It must take some digging to find things like this so you can re-energize your hate for someone

Get over it Culp lost!

So Dimslee just said "There is unfortunately and undeniably a mental health care crisis in this state regarding our youth. So now is the time for our schools to return this option for in-person learning."
Oh…..NOW? Not 6 months ago when kids were starting to commit suicide, starting to abuse drugs and alcohol, failing classes, falling into depression, becoming physically and mentally unhealthy, and becoming disconnected from their friends…..but NOW?
Thanks for clearing that up Dimmer! I guess you’re not ranked 50th out of 50 governors for a reason!

#Applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#Dimmer
#Freeferrypass
#Now

Imagine if trump had done something to curb the spread of Covid a year ago instead of promote the spread of Covid for the last year.

Not an Inslee fan at all but I cannot imagine anyone capable of easily cleaning up the mess that trump has left behind.

If you voted for trump you have nothing to bitch about, we all get to reap what you've sown.

Seems odd fat Orange and his escort got vaccinated back in January when this thing was supposedly going to disappear by last April because it was a hoax.
SF

So this has been a text book example of what smaller federal government gets you when a once in a century pandemic happens.

Jay is on CNN right now supporting Biden. Lots of juvenile responses by McCarthy and Meadows complaining about Biden taking credit for the vaccine. Republicans are still anti-science.

Go back and read Todd's thread about the best state per US News and World Report. I don't hear Biden or Inslee bragging.

Dimslee's staff shouldn't let him go to eastern WA. Every time he goes he screws up. Yesterday, he went to Wenatchee to visit a vaccination site. There are a few pics in the Wenatchee World....in two of the pics he is standing less than 6' away from another person, probably only 2 or 3 feet. Doesn't social distancing apply to Jaybone?
If parents can't sit in a football stadium 6' AWAY from each other and watch their kids play sports, why can he stroll through Wenatchee LESS than 6' away from other people? Oh, it's called hypocrisy. Well done Dimmer!

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

Now he's just screwing with you for the predictable response. He reads PPDS.

Now, imagine if trump had done something to try to control covid instead of promote it and it was gone by now....I'll bet you a dollar that there would still be plenty to complain about.

On a brighter note, the Dow is up over 7000 since the election.... sometimes it's best to just lick up the honey and don't ask questions.

I'm pretty sure the guv has been vaccinated, which means he's not going to die from covid or give it to anyone else.

But don't let me get in the way of your snivelfest.

They have now decided 3' is OK in schools.
LOL

Oh, c'mon. Everyone knows there's no actual Covid in eastern WA. It's just a hoax over there.

Washington needs less people.
Some here should consider moving to Texas.
Abbott and Paxton are waiting with open arms.
SF

Imagine how cool it would be to have a Texas area code, Texas area codes are so cool that they can mock the 360 as a damn liberal, pink hair, skinny jean, everyone gets a prize area code.

Evo Envy is alive and well here on Political Pursuits.

I can't tell if you are actually that stupid, or a troll that uses bait that bad.

Maybe there's no difference.

Fish on...

Todd

Well of course we all want to be overweight deadbeat knowitalls, but sadly.... some of us moved out of our mom's houses, got jobs and became members of society.

Evo Envy is less believable than transdimensional bigfeets and JFK Jr. coming back to life.

I'm always amazed at the meme logic you quote.

Those that have poor analytical skills tend to not understand data, or how what's learned from it may change recommendations over time, so they ridicule it. But after all these years it fits in with people's expectations of you.

The foundation of science is changing conclusions based on emerging facts.

The foundation of stupid is ignoring facts to cling to beliefs.

Choose wisely.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. Or don't. You can be stupid if you want to, it's a free country.

3' fucktards.

If it's not easy....don't bother trying.

....then blame everyone else.

sure Todd, you must have missed fumbling fauci get drug by Paul the other day. You wouldn't know what a fact is, if it hit you in the head. But, but, trump. Lol

logic, and analytical skills. Lol. Whatever you say ondagrass.

Rand Paul, as usual, embarrassed himself.

Fish on...

Todd

Spoonie was worried people would forget he's a fuckin' retarded paste eating meth smoker.

So he stopped by to remind us.

lol

Washington state homeless numbers are up 6.2%. It's a good thing that Dimslee is focusing on climate change.....that way the homeless can stay comfortable while sleeping outside on the ground. Nice priorities Jaybone!

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

Might be worth looking at the root of a lot of the current homelessness.
I don’t think Inslee made anyone become addicted to drugs or caused them to have a mental illness.
SF

There seems to be a lot of mental instability around here.

Damn. You beat me to it. Inslee has indeed driven quite a few PP Neanderthals insane.

its embarrassing to wear 2 masks after getting the vaccine for the next year or so.

You've managed to survive being you, so embarrassment doesn't seem to be much of an issue.

that's pretty fuckinfunny.

I agree with this statement. You are also no exception my friend. You seem pretty sick.


-FishDam

He raised a valid point when sparring with Dr. Flawchi the other day. Why are masks still mandated for people who have had the vaccine? If it is so effective in preventing COVID-19 then people should be protected and not need the mask. If there is no faith in the vaccines efficacy then why are people being forced to get it? Why is the federal government on their 2 billion dollar campaign to push the vaccine onto the American people. Is Fauci going to fear-monger the American people indefinitely with the fear of a new variant? There is research showing the vaccine supposedly protects against the variants as well.

The fact remains that there are are a slough of contraindications and the vaccine should not be pushed so carelessly. With a lack of longitudinal studies on the vaccines, this is a valid public health concern, unlike COVID-19 which at this point has become a political topic and no longer a public health issue. If Flawchi is a man of "science" then it is incumbent on him to provide the science and research on what he is preaching. He continues to provide nothing but entertainment in the form of flip-floppery.

-FishDam

I might be sick, but I'm not radicalized.

Sounds like the making for a new "Pole"

-FishDam

No, he didn't. Again, you can have had the virus or the vaccine and will not get sick from Covid. However, you can pass it along to others. Once again, you don't wear a mask to protect yourself, you wear it to protect others.

Eddie,

From the research I have reviewed, I have found nothing that has suggested people who have had covid-19 or even had the vaccine can be a vector for spreading the disease for others. There is a lifespan for many viruses that provides a shortened immunity once one recovers, similar with types of rhinoviruses/colds. We don't know yet if covid-19 is something that can be caught again after a certain amount of time or if the immunity is longer-term. I would be open to seeing any research that suggests otherwise, however to my knowledge there isn't any.

-FIshDam

There is nothing to support that people who have been vaccinated cannot spread Covid-19 or varients.

Rand Paul is not an expert in epidemiology. Only a pompous arse that got his butt kicked by his neighbor in his backyard.

Listen to Fauci you morons!

Steelheadman,

Covid-19 has been around for almost a year and a half and there are 0 known cases of having covid-19 more than once or any evidence that people who have had the virus can spread it. Policy should be science informed, and there is no science, yet.

I am willing to listen to Fauci when he provides research to support the recommendations he is making. There are many things that are said, and little if any research that is provided. In the meantime, I do not mind wearing a mask or social distancing, but mandating this as public policy isn't following any science.

There are literally thousands of doctors, medical experts, and public health experts who disagree with the recommendations and policy given by Dr. Fauci.

https://gbdeclaration.org/

-FishDam

FishDam,

Dr Fauci is always going to recommend on the conservative side when taking precautions against the virus. When in doubt go into full controls. There is documented evidence of people being re-infected by the virus. The uncertain part is how the variants play out.

Steelheadman

Hello,

Make sure y’all get your Fauci Ouchis

Respectfully,

Watkins

I'm always amazed at how people choose to purposely misinterpret what has been said to fit their political narrative.

Yes there are documented cases of re-infection, so far it's not clear about reinfection after the vaccine though. Can people spread it once they've had the vaccine....it's not fully understood yet, but from other diseases it may be possible. The consensus from even Fauci is that it probably isn't.

What has been recommended is to error on the safe side until more data has been gathered and thoroughly reviewed.

If you get your information from sources that have confessed to being nothing more than "entertainment", and admit they shouldn't be believed, your "facts" may not be all you think they are.

This includes the sources these supposed news outlets use to provide these facts.

There are two easy options here...we don't know if you can get re-infected, or infect others, so...

1. Until they tell me I can for sure get re-infected, or can for sure infect others, I'm going to assume I can't, and not wear a mask.

2. Until they tell me for sure I can't get re-infected, or can't for sure infect others, I'm going to assume I can, and wear a mask.

It's not any big conspiracy, it's just about the difference between a small inconvenience and maybe someone dying.

Right wingers tend to choose convenience over the death of others, and left wingers tend to choose the other way.

It's always been that way, and it always will be, because for them, freedom is free, as long as someone else is paying for it.

Fish on...

Todd

Their really going to make that their statement when they stop washing their hands....next up, drop a deuce on the sidewalk and not wipe their ass.

Ah.....the freedom.

Good post, extremesteelhead. You seem to be the only person here who makes a claim and provides research to support it.


-FishDam

It wasn't relatively harmless for 2.75 million dead people so far.

So far.

Fish on...

Todd

3' is ok now for kids.
Sheep keep sheeping.
Bhaaaa Bhaaa Bhhha.

Better run along.
Papa Inslee is home and there is cold kool-aid on the counter.

Hard charging rebels without a clue.

The Leader has been banished and all direction is lost.

Like lemmings to the cliff.

trump
lol

6'
3'

1 mask
2 mask
no mask

Open it up
Shut it down

Whatever

extremesteelhead's forte is comparing apples to oranges and making it sound pretty for simpleminded folks.

Fish on...

Todd

Not really. Nice try. He makes more thorough arguments than you. Some lawyer you must be.

Your forte is spewing anything that aligns with the mainstream narrative or anything that can discredit those “evil” conservatives. If only people could be as right as those progressive Democrats. Yeah?

-FishDam

On Monday Jaybone says that he would increase vaccine eligibility if supply increased.....no #$%&. What else would you do Dimmer, hoard it?
Biden on Monday called for increased eligibility for those who haven't yet been vaccinated for COVID-19 but Jaydolf Inslee's office said it plans to stick with its current roll out timeline despite pleas from the White House.
You're a real team player Dimmer.
But....yesterday Jaybone miraculously finds more vaccines and says WA state to expand vaccine eligibility to everyone over age 16 starting April 15. Sounds like ole Jaydolf doesn't know what the hell he's doing day to day.....shocker.

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

And your forte is welching on a bets, you know like Hank.
Your other forte is saying"they are both the same".

You clearly are the child, because you can’t help but get gut hooked by BlueFrank’s trolling...

It is so funny to me that Conservitards get so worked up so easily around here and yet call libtards snowflakes or closed minded while they are writing novel length responses to stupid posts on a stupid message board.

I appreciate your in depth wordy responses extremeheadgiver, your energy level is impressive, but even a dumb a$$ like me knows you aren’t as smart as you think you are.

You are correct they are the same.
Here's a few things where they are in fact not the same.

Immigration
Healthcare
Foreign Policy
Guns
The environment
Energy
Abortion
Education
Global warming

So a bunch of gut hooked snowflakes put you to work for them?




Lol you must not have been here during Wanka$$’s maximum overdrive Trump ball juggling, but you should put it to a pole to find out for sure.

5 days a week coming soon to a school near you.
Tell the herd.

If you are not a conservative why do you repost conservative responses? You don't agree with scientists.

Not much to disagree on there.

They’re not all the same though. Ask shillshee. Republicans evil. Democrats good.

-FishDam/Streamer

Did you say something epic welcher loser?

Did you have something of substance to say?

-FishDam/Streamer

Only that you are a pathetic welcher loser.

Man... still ripe with anger. Does anyone in your life ever take you seriously?

-FishDam/Streamer

Nobody takes someone who welches on bets seriously, so go fvck off, Steamer.

I don’t owe him a penny, but if I did I would pay him. The wager was the loser had to leave the darkside. I left for 3 months then decided to come back and troll the shillshee. It’s been pretty entertaining.


-FishDam/Streamer

Steamer made a bet.

Then welched on it.

It takes a real sh!tbird to do something like that.

You know, like Hank.

I think you mean reneged? I actually looked it up because I didn’t know what you meant. I didn’t buy him out. He would probably accept no less than a blowjob and or fully registering as a Democrat as amends. That’s how much of a shillsheis.

I would buy him a beer or two or take him fishing though instead. But he displays the temperament and emotional maturity of a 5 year old who cannot control his feelings or emotions and would probably turn it down.

-FishDam

Fixed the typo.

This from the fuckin' cock that made a bet then welched on it.

Get the fvck outta here, welcher.

The efforts certainly haven’t been much... but the minimal effort seems to get him riled up quick.

-Steamy

Poor Danny still angry over something he isn’t involved with? There are people that can help you with that you know.

-Steamy

Everyone is involved when someone makes a bet then welches on it.

The general decline in morals and standards is because of people like you.

So fvck off.

It's not anger, it's disgust. You're a fuckin' turd.

He wants to be Hank Welcher Jr.

Yeah. That’s a stretch and you know it. There are few rules on the darkside so I act accordingly, as do most others here.

Nobody has the balls to actually talk the way they do online to people face to face. You have one standard for how you conduct yourself online and another when you are face to face. The couple times I small talked you face to face on the river you were polite and chill. Online you talk tough, just like Jake. Who are you trying to impress? You’re a nice guy face to face and sound like an angry little elf online. Seems to me like you have different standards for how you conduct yourself, so you should be the last to lecture anyone on morals and standards.

-FishDam/Steamy

You sure do quickly flock to every post I make. Glad the feeling is mutual!

Yay! Where is a Richard Simmons?

-FishDam/Steamy

So, WA state is ranked 4th in the nation with the most Covid restrictions. Let's see how our Gubner's leadership in that area carried over to our public school system.....teen suicides, mental health crisis, domestic violence, increased drug and alcohol abuse...good work Jaybone!
Now for high school sports....the WIAA has tried valiantly to make sports work but have been shut down by the state's "recommendations". So now, leagues and conferences have decided to do their "own thing"...and some are totally nuts. Here's a good one: a school district that rhymes with Morthshore is requiring students coming to school to park their vehicles with one empty parking space between parked vehicles. Yep, outside with masks and with drivers getting out on the drivers side with an empty parking space in-between is roughly 12'-15'. Even with passengers, a passenger and driver in the next vehicle can't get out at the same time. The CDC says 3' but school districts are making their own rules, even more restrictive.....way to lead Jaybone, way to have your state be in disarray and no procedures....unless it's something YOU want. Keep that fear going.... but yet ZERO deaths under age 19. Keep drinking the Dimmer's Kool-Aid.

#applemaggot
#dimmer
#50thoutof50
#ferrypass

Maybe you and Jay should get a room. You seem obsessed with the guy.



I do agree with the "empty parking space between parked vehicles" criticism though. Seems like a stupid rule.

So, on the other side of the coin....there are only 4 states with less Covid per million of population.

Coincidence? I'm no scientist.....but I think not.

You should be thanking Jay, without him you could very well be dead and not even able to complain about being inconvenienced.

That has been the battle from the start, people to important to be inconvenienced into wearing a mask and taking the vaccine.

Yet for all of the complaining, the milk of the 206 [Bleeeeep!] continues to fund and refresh.
Roll on Liberty State, roll on....
SF

23 pages and counting from one leaky vag.
If only we had a vaccine for people like you.

lmao

This came out of Snake's sandy vag. And I bet there's still some left.

It’s a valid point.

-Steamy

So Jaybone rolled back Cowlitz, Pierce, and Whitman counties to Phase 2 today.....without doing a press conference to talk about it. Nice leadership Dimmer.

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

Once he figures out how to share the entire story written in crayon with no words longer than two syllables, he'll get right back to you.

Fish on...

Todd

The trumpvirus is trumps gift that keeps on giving.

cant let trump go eh? There's help for that.

Reality checks not your thing?

Dum-cc. This is bidens ship now., hasn't done fukall about anything..This is reality. And you're in denial.

Whatever you have to tell yourself.

Remember, it takes longer to clean up a mess than to make one... you of all people should know this.

Wait...I thought he was destroying the world by signing Covid relief, talking about executive action on gun control, caging children (and that's all of a sudden bad), ruining the economy with an infrastructure bill, and handing out DNA altering microchip vaccines for mind control like candy, among a million other horrible things?

Good to know that was all hogwash from retards like you, and that he actually isn't doing anything.

Maybe he should use all his extra time to golf, or tweet, or get a spray tan.

Fish on...

Todd

England just opened back up after a recent shut down. France, Italy and Germany are experiencing surges, with Italy and france in lock downs and Germany passing new restrictions. Russia is just coming down from a surge. But hey Bengazi, I sorry, I mean TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP......

he was handed a booming economy. Energy dependent america. A more secure southern border. And all he is doing is shitting the bed. There's your mess you were talking about. Now go help the old feller clean up.

lol. Bingo.

It's hard to understand you with those nuts in your mouth.

Damn...still a cultist, after all of this. Are you really that fuckin stupid?

(that's a rhetorical question, but I suspect you'll answer it, anyway, and confirm)

Fish on...

Todd

Tsk tsk Toff, in denial like a mf.

It's been a good week for Jaybone and it's only Wednesday. First he sends 3 counties backwards, then releases 13 convicts early from prison and then it's learned that the WA unemployment fraud numbers aren't $600+ million, they're over $1 billion.
Nice leadership Dimmer!

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

So, Jaybone tells us to go outside with his new message: "take it outside". Oh...now? Now, we can go outside? Last spring when we wanted to go outside and fish, golf, or picnic, you said NO! But now it's okay?
What consistent leadership Dimmer!

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

Here. Let me call you a waaaambulance.

Damn, did your Governor bang your wife ...without your consent?

Just go outside and play, all this worry is going to kill you.

Uh oh, one of the prisoners that Inslee released early was arrested just two days after his release: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/i-w...n?ocid=msedgdhp

Another blunder by good ole Dimmer! A special shout out to all of you Dems and Libs for voting Jaybone for a third term!

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

Did he make you watch?

No he didn't make Forskin watch, but he is living rent free in his head.

BEEP!

Inslee announced that he is reauthorizing the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine a day after U.S. health officials lifted an 11-day pause on the shot, after scientific advisers decided its benefits outweigh a rare risk of blood clot. So, someone has died from the J&J vaccine, but the benefits outweigh the risks?
But no WA children have died from Covid, but we kept them out of school and didn't let them play sports....I guess the benefits of kids not learning in-person, being depressed, increased use of drugs and alcohol outweighed living normally with no risks of dying. Nice work Jaybone!
Watch him send King and/or Snohomish counties back to Phase 2 on May 3rd....and it will shut down an entire season for HS sports....especially hurting a lot of seniors that have worked hard for this last season.

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

I think someone might have worked at Complaints “R” Us at one time.
SF

Just dial 1-800-bah-whaa

So Dimslee says he won't adjust metrics for county covid benchmarks. He can adjust:

Fuel tax
Capital gain tax
Eviction moratoriums
Drug possession laws

But can't adjust metrics with 5 million vaccinations done and thousands more each day. He can't adjust metrics with death rates going down. He can't adjust metrics so kids can their last 6 weeks of HS sports (basketball) even though the National Federation of High School sports has deemed basketball a "moderate" risk....not "high" risk as WA has it.

What a leader! Thanks Dems and Libs again for voting the Dimmer in for a third term!

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

Blue Fvckin Frank, dude. He has 60 trillion posts on Trump. If someone calls out a stupid dumbass Dem then all the Bkue Koolaid drinkers get pissed. We are better than this on the DS, I want to see equal opportunity schit slinging

You're welcome...

Can you even imagine if trumps lap dog had won our election?

Pretty good state we live in... in spite of our Gov't.

So, Dimlsee gets heckled today at a signing ceremony in Shoreline. What's Dimslee do? Starts talking like Jim Jones administering purple Kool-Aid....loud, repetitive, like he's talking to children.

Then he vetoed sections of his carbon bills so they get implemented now....even pissed off his own party. Emperor Jaydolf.

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

If whinin was a sport, you'd be all world.

Shocking news.....the Dimmer has pissed off more people. Seems his climate bill veto does not properly recognize the relationship between the tribes and the state. You mean, Dimslee only cares about what HE thinks is right? Ignoring the significance of the tribes, ignoring businesses during the pandemic and ignoring our youth during this past school year...seems like a pattern. But when you're ranked 50th out 50 governors, what do you expect?

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

After his embarrassing showing on the Don Lemon show, where he blamed the recent once in 1,000 years 3-day heat wave on man made climate change....now Dimslee is going to the top of the Space Needle and wave a flag celebrating the end of our Covid shutdown. Oops, he forgot that over 1,000,000 public education students and over 50,000 school staff in our state will have to continue to wear masks. So, while he is celebrating, others (majority at zero risk of dying) will continue to choke on their own breath while sitting in classrooms or playing school sports. Nice work Jaybone!

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

Climate change is no joke! Trump and his evil capitalistic cronies are ruining the environment for everyone. We love you governor Inslee!

Jay should open up the Capital as a “cooling space”, he’s got central air and lots of room…and it’s not a “for profit business”. Seems like it fits the criteria?

Much truth you speak, Bent Metal. Much truth you speak.

Random sampling of past year’s DS banter , typically shows multiple participating members of the PP community engaged in numbers of differing threads and discussions. In the last few years the number playing here on the dark side numbers in the 10s, and likely less with the avatar and name changing.

So, why did they all quit posting, or as some have done , just shut the eff up, and moved on ?

It’s cuz Todd hurt their feelings….A bunch of fawking snowflakes.

They woke and canceled themselves.

It's a fuucking shithole and you know it... troll much?

Whine much?

Look within.

If WA is such a shithole state, Quimber should try one of those states with a higher percentage of knuckle-draggers. That might be more to his liking.

Double douchebags.

Some of us stay here to take care of our older parents, some live here because they love the douche that the governor...

You shouldn't let a relatively benign governor like Inslee set up camp in your head like that.

Some of us (like me) live here because it's beautiful and an outdoorsman's paradise. Not to mention it has fewer complete dipshits than many other states. We have dipshits for sure, but just a lot less of them.

So, we have the CDC giving their national stance on masks in schools....but wait, now each state wants to have their own stance. California just announced that all students and staff, vaccinated or not, will HAVE to wear masks when school starts in the fall. Well, you know that Inslee will do whatever his boofoo buddy Newsom does, so get ready for WA to do the same. How's getting the vaccine and still have to wear a mask to go to school sound to ya?
Except, in WA since we don't have solid, clear leadership....each county has and will interpret Dimslee's orders differently. And within each county, separate school districts has and will interpret the orders differently. It's happening now, this summer with school activities. You can drive 5 miles and a different district has different Covid protocols. That's kind of a problem isn't it?
It all comes back around to leadership....or in this case...lack of. Nice work Jaybone!

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

So what, is this the biggest thing in your life you need to fret over?

Quimber has issues period!

Quimber has a period.

In case you missed it....Governor Dimslee just did an awesome display of talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time in a press conference. Some highlights..."Listen, this vaccine works!" Followed by "but you can still get the virus if you have been vaccinated". Then, "the vaccine is incredibly effective, incredibly effective!" Followed by "even if you have been vaccinated, you must wear a mask indoors in certain situations".
If it's so effective and works so well, then why keep wearing masks if you've been vaccinated? Oh, maybe because of the breakthrough cases, including deaths? I guess injecting your body with a non-FDA approved substance isn't really that effective.
Get ready for vaccine requirements at work. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

Inslee is a walking contradiction. But don’t criticize too much. That makes you a Trump Guzzler and the supposedly moderate Democrats of the board will not hesitate to let you know when they defend their pathetic governor.


-Steamy

Did you always flunk math in grade school? I mean, what part of "94% effective" do you not understand?

Approximately 100% of it.

Fish on...

Todd

But let’s overreact 100% for an outlier <6% chance at something.

Maybe some of you flunked school for being unable to tie a golden thread.

-Steamy

See Toff, this is how you do it. Snake is keeping his political angst all in one thread.

lol

Steamer is trying to sound smart, but isn't.

Weren't you supposed to get the fvck outta here, welcher?

Thought so.

It appears you didn't pay attention to what's being said by the experts in the field

Try doing doing a little research, nothing new in what he said, and this has been the message from almost day one of the vaccines.

Just a hint,, Fox News, Newsmax and OAN are not considered reliable sources of data or facts.

No defence of Inslee, he's not my top pick for anything.

You are correct my little drama dwarfed friend. But it is fun to stay here and watch you get all worked up. If you didn’t always take the bait I’d probably find some other place to troll, but the fishing here is good.


-Steamy

This isn’t the vaccine thread I am aware of that.

But c’mon ondrvr, you were telling everyone the correct way to live (mostly shelter in place and mask always) while you were galavanting all over the inter mountain west.

Do as I say not as I do.

lmao

You're the fuckin' tool that can't leave, garbage fish. You're not fishing, you're getting caught. You're just too stupid to realize it.

No wonder you couldn't become a cop. Dumb and untrustworthy.

You seem pretty worked up...


-Steamy

Isn't it amazing that when I followed the recommendations of how to be out in public more safely it worked.

No bars, no groups, no restaurants, always used an N95 mask, etc.

I tried to not create, or be in a super spreader event, unlike a certain segment of the population, and I don't think I need to explain who they are again.

Won't be long and everyone's gonna be masked again. Time's ticking. Just as much the fault of the vaccinated as the unvaccinated. [Bleeeeep!]'s spreading like wildfire, know way more people that have gotten sick this go around.

Before the vaccinated jump me, remember it's about the KIDS, schooling, businesses staying open, etc... If we want this country to operate as it should through the fall and winter, PUT YOUR MASKS BACK ON and stop socializing so much...

Keith

Maybe I haven't had enough coffee yet this morning Keith, but can you please explain to me why the latest covid surge is just as much the fault of the vaccinated as the unvaccinated? It is the unvaccinated that provide the greater reservoir for the virus and for mutations to occur. I understand that vaccines are not fail safe, but it would appear that the vaccinated population provides only 5 or 6% as much reservoir for the virus. Sure looks to me as though the unvaccinated are providing 95% of the viral spread and surge.

It's more like 97 or 98 percent in the hot spots around the country right now.

Fish on...

Todd

Yes, I have read that too and scientifically it makes sense but that was the data from the original Covid, but now it's the Delta variant that we are learning about... Time will tell and I'm sure more data will come. Observing the situation currently at hand, I know of nearly 10 break through cases of the vaccinated who have tested positive and their kids have tested positive as well.

Example 1: Two friends went fishing in AK two weeks ago, 1 person unvaccinated in the group that tested positive to Covid 3 days into the trip then 2 of the other 4 who were vaccinated tested positive, one of which both kids have now tested positive and the other that has one kid that tested positive.

Example 2: Neighbor, both parents vaccinated with 2 children of which one is 12 years old and vaccinated. One parent tested positive to Covid, non vaccinated child just tested positive yesterday to Covid. It was assumed it was caught in a small cabin community they hang with that now has 8 of the 12 kids that have tested positive and one other vaccinated adult so far. In which all parents are vaccinated in the community and they're super strict about who they hang with. Super anal about the Covid fears. In regards to the other 4 kids, they weren't tested. Good news is all 8 kids have had a minor fever and minimal cold symptoms and nothing worse.

That's just 2 scenario's in my small circle of life and theirs other stories as well.

I understand what the news outlets are saying, I'm reading it all daily from all the outlets... It's ultimately saying the unvaccinated are the issue and without a doubt as I mentioned in the original post they're just as much at fault but this whole selfish I'm vaccinated attitude and I'm protected is going to spread it like wildfire for the kids. Keep in mind it's summer, things amplify in the winter as we've witnessed in the past due to more people staying indoors.

Masks work, mask up my friends....

Keith

I understand that the already vaccinated can still, at a reduced rate, get Covid. Since Delta is significantly more transmissible, even the vaccinated can spread it to a lot of folks.

But, from what I heard and read, even with Delta, the vaccinated are far, far , far , far less likely to require hospitalization, ICUs, or coffins.

Your choice.

Question From Derps: how is it that COVID vaccine isn’t 100% effective when Polio vaccine is?

Answer For Derps: polio vaccine isn’t 100% effective. How many people surround you that have polio (zero)? After a successful vaccination campaign the disease is pretty much non-existent in North America. If people carrying polio were all over the place like COVID, you would see what you are seeing now with the COVID vaccine and some positive tests after vaccination.

Polio was pretty much eradicated with vaccines because there was a time before the internet.

Also, Polio was pretty much eradicated with vaccines because people back then put society, patriotic duty, and their family's health before fuckhead traitors like trump, hannity and fvcker carlson.

This isn't the conversation. You're side tracked being selfish here..

We know by the data that the vaccinated aren't hitting ICU's, that's the obvious. But look at the data for the kids, Alabama yesterday 26 pediatric patients, including ICU's and Ventilators. The highest it's ever been. Some of those are Vaccinated parents kids... Go read the articles, Vaccinated parents feeling the guilt when their kids end up super sick.. The ignorance in I'm vaccinated, protected and can't spread it is disheartening. Then of course it's the finger pointing fest towards those that aren't vaccinated. Blaming others for their own doing...

Keith

And the arrogant, I'm vaccinated folks as well. The I won't get sick or go to the hospital, at least 98% chance I won't. But, we are learning those vaccinated can and are spreading the virus to others including others that are vaccinated and their kids...

I'll say it again, mask up my friend. You as the vaccinated could be the reason someone's child get's sick...

[Bleeeeep!] Trump and his [Bleeeeep!] from the past. This isn't about being patriotic, it's about educating with the facts... Pass it forward.

Keith

I was about to tell you to eat your bullshitt but then I realized you are just ignorant. I still wear a mask indoors and I don't take chances with Covid. Never have.

Forward looking perhaps, you could call it that. The forecasting is being done, the evidence is already showing its self statistically but your calling the CDC ignorant then as this unfolds.

Keith

Vaccinated and healthy, but going the safe route again with a mask far more often now. Not 100% of the time, but I should.

Huh? I follow the CDCs advice and never called them ignorant.

Our last two posts were not exactly coherant so I'll clarify.

Disinformation and outright lies by the likes of trump, hannity and fvcker carlson is why so many people aren't vaccinated and why we are having the current spike.

If ~75% of Americans nationwide were vaccinated, the current spike probably wouldn't exist.

What are you boys like in real life? Honestly

Define the question a little further...

Keith

I'm a defender of the truth. But today I'm mostly just bored.



(Waiting on a colleague to give me the code I need to finish my current project.)

So, several thousand "Washingtonians" showed up in Olympia to protest Jaydolf's vaccine and mask mandates. I wonder why? You mean citizens aren't happy about being forced to do something to their bodies or they lose their jobs?
The vaccine? It does one thing....gives you a better chance of survival of Covid if you have any underlying health issues, period. Vaccinated or unvaccinated....same viral load...science. Vaccinated can still get and transmit the virus. Breakthrough cases in Los Angeles are nearing 30%, in Israel (most vaccinated country in the world) breakthrough cases are above 50% and her in WA its above 10% and climbing. Why? Because the vaccine was designed to battle the original Covid, not Delta. Why do you think there is a mask mandate?......because the vaccine does NOT stop the spread. Why is Fauci pushing boosters earlier than originally scheduled? Because they are hoping it might help....but it won't. It's been proven that taking a vaccine that does not effectively work against a virus actually weakens your system for the next variant.
Now Dimslee wants to order you to get the vaccine or ELSE! What a leader!

#applemaggot
#50thoutof50
#dimmer
#ferrypass

"Coronavirus" is a common virus family. Most coronaviruses that infect humans are easily fought off by our immune systems and only cause minor symptoms. COVID-19 is a member of the coronavirus family produced by lab tampering to see how dangerous they could make it, and as chance would have it, that means it spreads very easily through most of the population and poses a serious risk of death to the elderly and infirm.

Now it's mutating in the wild, and that could go in multiple ways: we could get fast-spreading, low-harm variants that front-run more severe variants and immunize against them, as happened with the Spanish Flu, or we could get a virus that simply adapts in the wild to infect humans more effectively and be deadlier. The widespread use of leaky vaccines biases it toward the latter scenario.

Inslee is a fvcking idiot.