we hooked in to something with a whole herring on the bottom out in front of the edmonds fairy docks. took about 250 feet off a penn 409 before we began to chase it, went through browns bay almost to shipwreck, was on the bottom most of the time even though the 500 foot holes in browns bay. figured it was a huge skate or something. finally broke the swivel attaching the steel leader. never seen anything like it.