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"My theory does not rest on any single one of my points."

Sure it does. Bin Laden has to be dead for anyone of your points to have merit.

"individual/s who will accept responsibility for authenticating it. 'intelligence officials' doesnt count either"

Well since you want to exclude the very groups in each country that has the most expirience at it will you take the old man down the streets word for it?

How about I use the fact that some parasite like Michale Moore did not make a movie about it as proof. Certainly he or Stuart Smallie would have jumped that boat ? Nope none of the main stream conspiracy big wigs will touch it but some nurse from Olympia has it nailed. I bet the CIA is holding you back from taking this Holywood?

When he can't properly debate you Vhawk, he will always insult you.

Holywood? That must be where TK gets all his facts from. Holywood movies!

Seriously, Try and sell it. Better yet hock everything you own and make a movie. It's how spike lee and MM got started. Take it to the American people don't keep it a secret any longer. I bet all you get out of it is free room and board at a fine establishment on a big lake in Whatcom co?

Check my last post I made some edits.

And as for the mockery...I could care less. They mocked the hell out of the guy who said peptic ulcers were caused by bacteria. Now they pay the guy good money to speak.

All I did was go through the 'checkables'. Info that was available through public sources.

TK, don't confuse a conclusion with its premise. I've taken college logic. Your having some trouble with telling the two apart. Don't assume I only took classes for my bach nursing degree either, because I spent too much money taking extra classes for personal interest.

When you say "nurse from Olympia", you better say it with some respect. Else I'll have AuntyM thumbwrestle you into submission.

Wow, he's so desparate he's now argueing with himself. Attagirl.

I want a PERSON to attach thier name to the claim that it is OBL on the audio or video tape. Such as Dick, George, Karl, Donny, or whoever it is that is now the CIA Director. I want a quote that says "I am the Director of X, we have verified this tape to be OBL". All you can find are unnamed sources. No actual spokesperson makes the claim.

So unnamed US intelligence officials are reporting that 'TheKing', makes a living selling carp tacos out behind the Salvation Army. Wow you can't refute that. It comes from an unnamed US intelligence official. Gee, those same officials also tell me that you don't even bother trying to fairhook those goldfish when you catch them. Dang your a bad man.
Unnamed sources are just as dangerous as relying on anonymous sources. In fact thats what they are, anonymous. How do you challenge a source that won't reveal itself?

And of course this all from the same WH that made the claim "Its completely ridiculous to think Mr Rove had anything to do with revealing the name of a CIA operative."

Vhawk,

That quote may very well be out there or it may not be. But the absence of it does not prove anything. It is your standard and your standard alone. A liberal biased profit motivated press would have been all over this a long time ago where there any merit. If you want to claim the same outcome as the guy who said ulcers where caused by bacteria lets see the same methodology and burden of proof he was required to use to prove his claim.

TK, you do realize how foolish you look? When your only point is to argue just to defend righty, you're wrong (y)!

Which of my premises do you find fault with?
Pick one. Is it the one where I make the observation that GW is not interested in OBL personally?
Maybe you've found fault with the reported 'power struggles' within Al Qaeda?
Give me something concrete. The majority of what I gave to support my conclusion were FACTS, things that actually happened and were widely reported. I can't provide proof if you don't tell me what it is you find fault with.

The news media, left or right, does not have complete control over which stories develop legs. Otherwise Libby Montana would have been GW's downfall. Yea I bet nobody knows what the hell I am talking about. Its the real reason Christy Todd Whitman resigned in the middle of her term.

I'll give you all a clue. Its related to the air around the fallen Towers.


Have fun. I have a poker tourney in Shelton to win.

AM,

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Go to this thread on this very topic from June 2004 and read your comments. Then you will understand why I posted that to mock those that are now on the other band wagon because a fellow lib carries the banner

Thats the problem with you people zero consistancy

Not the asbestos theory tell me you did not go there. You need to break into t he Pharm and hit the psychotropics

In that thread, TK said

You're not as good a liar as your president.

vhawk I dont listen nor watch orielly. The guy really irritates me. Why would you jump you conclision like that. Did I mention him in my responce, no. Did I mention that I dont listen to npr, no. Once again you just believe what you wish to believe and that is fine you have the right but dont expect to change any ones mind that way. Once again show me facts 100 percent facts. That should be the only way to convince anyone not conspiricy theorys.

And you sure as hell aren't going to convince anyone because you spell properly either, so knock it off!!!!!

Did you ask your Presidente for 100% "facts" that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?? Of course not, you had all the assurance you needed when the named officials guaranteed it... :rolleyes:

Life must be great when you don't have to think for yourself!

IOKIYR.

TK,

The 'medications' thing is cliche. It serves to illuminate nothing except a lack of substance to your argument. Unless of course your goal is to turn this post into a flame war and thus get the topic locked. That would be a typical neocon tactic. If you can't win the argument then shout over it, or shut it up.

Jeremy,

If you don't like O'Reilly then you need to reread your posts. They contain nothing of intellectual interest. Just like the Fox choir boy.
If you want the facts then just go to the original post. Tell me what in particular you disagree with. DO NOT JUST TELL ME I AM A F"N LIB so ergo I AM FULL OF BS. When you do that you sound like a junior neocon choir boy.


What I think is most revealing out of all this dialogue is how a neocon can change his position 180 degrees if someone challenges Generalissimo El Busho. Very impressive when I read how TK agrees with me on the very basic point the OBL is dead, unless of course it somehow makes El Busho look bad. Then Gawd Almighty I must be on drugs to believe that kind of wild conspiracy.

And the asbestos tragedy in Libby is not a theory. Hundreds of miners and their families are dying as we write.

click here Dept Health Human Services

As many people as died in the Pentagon attacks will very likely die as a result of cover up of the contamination. Don't disrespect your fellow countrymen just because it makes your political party look bad. One of the heroes of the story also happens to be a Republican. Too bad El Generalissimo didn't appreciate her respect for the working man. Oh and of course Dick was running the very company that was covering up the tremolite asbestos contamination of HOUSING INSULATION, and POTTING SOIL. Tremolite is such a pathogenic form of asbestos that even the families of miners were getting lung disease.

Anyone interested should look up Andrew Schneider on Google. He was the former Seattle PI reporter who helped break this story. Nice guy. I traded a few emails with him.

Very Interesting topics.