One point, or a hundred, doesn't matter.

BSU struggled with Wyoming, a D1A powerhouse.

Has Willingham won anywhere? No, he just took SU, the school with the highest academic standards in D1 to the Rose Bowl. Besides, we haven't had football players in the police blotter on a weekly basis......and that counts for something.

It's better to be a has-been than a never-was.

Yea the old hearts really crawl out on the sleeve don't they..

What do I have to talk about.. I been picking the Vikings to win the super bowl for the last 39 years or so and.. well, you see how thats worked out.

However.. ( you knew this was coming ) Willingham has taken two schools with massive potential and done absolutly nothing with them. If you can't take ND and UW to at least a .500 record maybe you should step down a notch.. like the WAC maybe ??

A notch?

That's a free-fall, man.

Dan did you mean to contradict yourself like that? So when UW wins it doesn't matter if it was a convincing win, but if its BSU then they have to win by 32 points or its an embarrasment?

Well both teams kinda sucked this week. They both have Fresno and San Jose on their schedules. Without a head to head match up, this is all we get this year.

Not a contradiction at all......I never claimed UW was going to blow FSU, or anyone else, out. I did, however, hear the claim that BSU was fit to walk all over everybody......and was just wondering what happened to make them dance around with the likes of Wyoming.

So yes, BSU must win by at least 35. :p

UW wasn't favored if I can remember right. BSU was right?

1. He had winning seasons at Stanford and ND.
2. You take a team with a 1-10 record in the previous year and try to make them an above .500 team. There 2-1 now. Let them get all the credit they deserve. Almost as many wins in 3 games as in the last 2 years.
4. Potential? You try and take schools that require such high grades to get accepted in and make them into top notch football programs. Stanford and ND. Your not going to find a bunch of 4.0 gpa All American Football players...
4. He's done nothing with them? 10-3 record in his first year at ND after it was a disaster. Took STANFORD to the ROSE BOWL! Led them to an outright conference title...God he's really wasted his time sitting on his a$$ hasn't he?

The Blue Turf is still "interesting"

I think the claim made was that BSU could beat half the PAC 10 teams this year. Looking at how the PAC has been doing that may not be a ridiculous claim. According to the AP and Coaches Polls BSU ranks higher than half the PAC 10.


Regardless of who does better this season, if UW beats USC I might tattoo a Huskie on my butt.

Arguing about college ball is ok. Right or wrong no ones life depends on the outcome, the fate of the environment doesn't depend on the answer, the future of America doesn't hang in the balance...unless USC wins another national title.

Don't know what you guys are arguing about, think how Oklahoma must feel after getting *****slapped by the 12th man in Eugene

Triple post !!! Your just itching ain't ya !!!

Where did you get the idea that they have 4.0 grade avg's at N D .. on the football team ??

It doesn't have the easiest grade entry standards, but not a 4.0. Sorry I made that mistake. But Stanford is very tough and ND isn't easy either (maybe a little less than I proclaimed it to be, I was too lazy to distinguish the difference between Stanford and ND)...Even the one of the recent coaches at ND said that the schools entry requirements are too tough so they don't get any black players cause they can't manage the grades...

I'm just itching to miscorrect your so called "facts" which are always messed up. Hard to bash on a guy and team when you don't have the facts straight.....

Well, kid-gloving Wyoming isn't exactly proving the point.

The five worst teams in the Pac this year will likely be SU, UW, AZ, WSU and OSU. I'd guess that BSU would be favored against any of them, so I guess that statement isn't too far-fetched.

I still think that field should be outlawed, though.

I love the blue field. BSU likes that other teams hate it. The only warning I'd give regarding the Smurf Turf is not to suck on your whistle too long and then stare at it; you'll get dizzy and barf.