now that it is official that the white house has been lying thru their teeth about karl roves involvement in the outing of an undercove cia agent for political purpose, what are you conservatives going to say?

are you going to try and split hairs and redefine the meaning of the word "Is" like clinton or just admit that this is the most corrupt admin that has ever led or mis-led the coutry. and now we get alberto gonzales to investigate the Bush admin- what a crock of ****

Its time to trade in Bush's flight suit and oil for tar and feathers.

come on the king and other conservatives---- wiggle your way out of this one with the standard hypocricy and hair splitting and re-defining of what was said

we will say:
1. Rove hasnt admitted anything. He may have talked to a reporter but, perhaps he wasnt the first to do so and therefor not the leak.
2. The person in question was not an operative, not an undercover operative, or was unkown to Rove as an undercover op.

and finally, best and most important of all, we will say:

3. So you'd rather have Saddam back in power?

so the plan is to lie your way out. since everything you wrote is proven to be untrue....
besides bush said that he would fire anyone who was "involved" in the leak..... we now know that rove was "involved"

its fun to watch you hypocrites squirm under your own declarations

what do you expect us to do?

Own up to our actions and statements?
Tell the truth?
Have a thimblefull of integrity?

You have not been paying attention to our adminstration for the past five years then if thats what yo are after.

Lower your expectations. Of course we will lie!
Or at best difuse and throw the blame elsewhere.

Actually we need not do anything at all because the american public has the memory of a gnat. Its comical to think Downing Stret or this Rove thingy will affect our support in any way. We dont care, or cant remember , or are sure its just a liberal smear campaign. WE are lucky to be wearing these blinders, lest our faith falter. teehee! If Bush told us poo was good food, we'd be eating it for lunch diner and breakie, asking for secnds, and sending our first born sons off to fight in a poo war.

There is spin and truth. The truth is Karl Rove is a very intelligent man. He knew what he was doing. To say otherwise is to call him stupid. He is not stupid.
It is time for Bush to show integrity. Scott McLellan (who speaks for the President) said that anyone associated with the matter would be fired. Rove's attorney has admitted involvement. The Time magazine e-mails and notes are further PROOF. To out a CIA agent while the country is trying to fight foreign terrorists is reprehensible. To do so when the operative is working on matter of weapons of mass destruction is potentially treason.
The country has put up with the administrations failure to get Osama Bin Ladin "dead or Alive". We have put up with holding hands with the Saudi prince after 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were saudi's and over 70% of the foreign "insurgents" are Saudi. We have put up with over 9 Billion (that's with a B) dollars unaccounted for in Iraq. We have put up with an Iraq policy that has aliented the international community by not allowing them to bid on cotracts as well as alienated the Iraqi people who are still largely unemployed even as reconstruction goes on.
We cannot put up with anyone outing CIA agents. Bush 42 called such an act treason. I agree. Even if he can wiggle out and not be found guilty this is the most unpatriotic thing that any person can do, save for putting the brave men and women in the service in harms way over lies.
We must succeed in Iraq and quite simply this can't be done with an administration bullying and outing CIA agents.
"If Germany invaded France, I would root for France but I'd bet on Germany"- Beano Cook

very well said

Well ol Karl is in a bit of a pickle!!! This story put me in mind of what the GM says about the manager who is about to be fired. Treason - pretty darn close if not all the way there. Do they still execute folks found guilty of treason? Now, that would be some irony!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8545657/

I thought one was required to be indicted and charged and then tried by a jury of his peers in this land? Every leagl mind in the US says based on the Email from newsweek it would be next to impossible to charge and even more remote to convict based on Rove's statements. I was unaware so many of you where tops in your legal professions

TK - maybe all the leagal minds are in agreement - but what about you - do you think that Rove walked the tightrope but absolutely meant to out this woman?

I don't know enough about it Eddie. I know Rove is a smart puppy so it would not suprise me. I also know that the woman in question was revealed about 8 years prior by the Russians and the Isrealis so in this case its more likely about politics than a national security issue.

I suspect he will edited that comment, lest we all accuse him of accuracy for once.

... and the Patriot Act said, "Yeah, hehe, right."

Rove: "If I'm convicted of anything, homosexuals will be allowed to marry."

There......problem solved.

Like I said about spin vs. truth
If Valerie Plame had been outed 8 years ago why would she still be a covert agent? She was a covert agent at the time of the outing by Rove. King, Your gonna have to provide a source for that fact and Hannity won't do. She has to be a covert agent or there would be no investigation due to the lack of a crime.
The puzzle fits neatly together. At this point it has to be asked which do you love more the country or your party.
As far as whether or not Rove has been found guilty yet, that is not important at this time. He has admitted to leading Cooper towards her to "steer him away from the story" The story regarding uranium cake from niger to Iraq was shown to be a lie that the president told the nation at the state of the union. This is not debated anymore. At best Rove was steering the press away from the truth and in doing so jeopardized the Nations security. That is so reckless that any President with integrity would fire him. At worst he outed a CIA operative on purpose. The preponderance (sp?)of the evidence shows this. If this is the case he jeopardized the safety and security of all Americans and our troops. This is anti-american, possibly treasonous.
Stilly cleanup on Sat. 10-1 meet at the Blue Stilly. Just another example of liberals cleaning up the country we hold so dear.

Salar,

"She has to be a covert agent or there would be no investigation due to the lack of a crime. "

Only if you assume that investigations are merit based and not politically motivated.

She was an analyst not a covert agent like Austin powers . It has been reported in many articles that her role was no secret since the 1996 outing by the Russians and isrealis. However if anyone reveled her name while she was still on the covert roles it would be a crime technically.

I think it's being requested that you provide links to those articles. We have problems taking your word for things.

Oh, look, Elvis has another conspiracy theory. Typical of the neocon.

:rolleyes:

TK,

Rove is a sharp cookie. Most of us on both sides of the street agree to that, no problem.

But now he's implicated as a traitor to his country - - and you're defending the scumbag? What's in this for you, or is this just part of how you entertain yourself in this forum?

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

P.S. in all fairness, give him a fair trial with a jury of his peers before showing him the firing squad.

WOW..I can't believe I even opened this forum....

same old ....same old...different day.

Parsing words, didn't that get all you 'R's in a tizzy once before? :p

If Rove leaked the name, in any form, then Bush said he'd fire him, as he is 'anybody', per bush's statements.
And we all know, as a good Texan, he's a man of word........

Oh-Oh , we are screwed on this one too !!

Funny how statements from Scotty are no longer appropriate during an 'ongoing investigation', but were appropriate for almost 2 full years, even after Bush requested the name of the leaker. :rolleyes:
Looks like Rove may get off, but a bad taste will have a lingering effect on him, and his 'clients'.
It's like he got caught spankin' the monkey, and is claiming to have just 'shook it vigorously'........

KK