Ignoring people that do not share your zeal for a particular topic runs counter to the whole purpose for these types of discussions, does it not? T-Rex is just asking for the information that you are, in part, basing your position on. Why not just spill it?

Pnw,

I know where your coming form and I know your intentions are honorable.

But of all the people on this list you are the last person that should give support.

Rest assured it is appreciated but I've seen how you've been treated. I wish no mallce befall anyone, so in (what I consider) your best interest. You ought to stand clear mate.

This thread has, as most threads here that involve a contrary opion to the chosen few, designated to name calling.

I do not wish that you or others that are so inclided get involoved.

Now for the name callers and the belittles.

AS the song says,

Give me your best shot. I'll be civil to you anyway you wish to come at me.

YB

I could easily do as you say.

But why should I do the research for someone that, so far, doesn't know if these figures are correct or not.

People should not spew out numbers not having fully checked them first. Nor are they gospel because it was heard someplace.

If I where inclined, I could easily call the game dept and get the figures @ 1-360-902-2267. That’s where I got my information that disputed 35,000,000 pounds propaganda. But If I where to call the game dept. and the numbers where in conflict. In this community, who would believe me?

I've tried to explain where I'm coming from. But some folks haven't understood. If these figures are as presented. Then hell yes let's get em. But until I see the said figures I'm not flying off the handle while being fully loaded with cattle residue.


But thanks for the suggestion.

My whole purpose is encouraging other perspectives. I am not necessarily getting into this one with you T-Rex, but having others on here proclaiming to ignore reasonable people and reasonable questions runs counter to my sense of fairness.

As for how I am treated, no need to concern yourself. I can take it.

OK my man (I assume)

The game's afoot?

Back on the first page, I posted the following

But, since he can't seem to figure our how to click on a link, I will post it AGAIN so that maybe he can navigate the internet better.

Click on these words Trex

So far, he's only found one person, a state shellfish bio, that agrees with him on another board. :rolleyes:

Speaking of the state shellfish bio He put out numbers on another board claiming there were 200,000 sport crabbers. I have no way to verify the accuracy of that claim.

HOWEVER!

If you divide the sport allocation for this year, 1,252,100 (pounds, not crabs) by that mythical 200,000 crabbers, it amounts to....

I know you're not going to believe this,

6.2605 pounds of crab or....

3 small or two large crabs PER YEAR average for each person!



If you use the "estimate" for what we actually have taken this year, it goes up enough to add one more crab to each person's average total for the whole year!

I think it's a safe bet that we NEED a larger allocation.

More smoke and mirrors ?????

Aunty we talked about these figures two days ago on Steelhead. As you may recall I asked, “ What’s your point?” because without the corresponding sports figures this is just data. You have made a claim based on what you call supporting figures. I’m still asking for the figures (That’s ALL the figures)

Aunty by continually demeaning another individual do you really believe it increases your esteem with anyone? It is obvious you have no respect for anyone that is seriously interested in all the facts. If it’s not total support of the garbage being spewed as being Gospel, it’s ridicule and debasing. I would only hope that RFA chooses a spokesperson with a more refined disposition.

“So far, he's only found one person, a state shellfish bio, that agrees with him on another board.”

But, But Aunty I’m not asking anyone to agree with me. Where as you on the other hand defame a person because---- well--- hell I really don’t know why.

I might suggest to anyone that may be picking a team (now that’s funny) that one not join my team, unless you’re capable of turning your cheek.

What your numbers for sports crabbers Aunty? I'll crunch them too.

That would be about right for my family 6 crabs for 2 CRC

Trex,

I think you're the one who is trying to demean others here. You made statements claiming that I've used bogus numbers. I have not. Since I obviously can't post a link to where some of those originated (GOOOSE on SH.net) of which you have complete knowledge of, what IS your point? Are you saying GOOOSE's numbers are wrong? He claims sport crabbers were harvesting 1,000,000 pounds annually prior to the CRC's. I posted what commercials "landed" prior to the dates you gave straight off WDFW's own site. I also used GOOOSE's number of 200,000 sport crabbers.

These are NOT my numbers and you damn well know it. They come from WDFW's website and one of their shellfish bios. If those are wrong, then go attack them.

You then made the accusation

How would I gain finacially by contributing money to a cause I feel deeply about? What esteem am I getting out of it? I doubt Grandpa making a nice comment constitutes "esteem" and posture? Well, I DO try to sit up straight at the keyboard. :rolleyes:

So I submit to you that I am NOT the one trying to demean you. You're doing a great job demeaning you, all by yourself with your own words.

If your attacks continue, I will just delete this thread that I started and ignore you.

Do as you wish.

The Ignore part I like. That would mean you would never say or type my name again. Yah I like the sounds of that.

I will continue to treat you as I have for there past few days. And not change that to the respect you deserve.

But before you pop the thread am I to assume that you never had the sports figures? You relied on the “about” figures from Gooose? Gooose admitted he was still delving into them and you stand by them? Is this correct? Are you aware that the time frame of the “Gooose” figures came after your losing ground thesis?

Funny, you are no longer disputing his numbers on THAT board.

FYI, he's playing two different games on two different boards. But here is where I got my figures from the other board.

Despite my difference of opinion with Gooose, I believe he would not lie, nor do I suspect he is capable of errors in the above regard. In fact, it would be totally illogical for the numbers to be anything but what Gooose claimed.

Trex, amn I DO feel sorry for you since you obviously have nothing better to do than start sh!t with honest, decent people.

This thread seems to have gone the way of a peeing match rather than a discussion of the issues, so I think it's time to wrap things up