#325403 - 12/23/05 01:29 AM
Cannot be pleased with modern day fishing line
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Fish Fear Me
Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 3376
Loc: Port Angeles
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Seems like it's hard to please me anymore.. I usually fish 15# and I used to love Izor, Down the toilet now as far as I'm concerned.. Ande used to do good for me, now I can't stand it.. Trilene Big Game worked good for me for a couple of years, and anymore, I just don't seem happy with it.. Chameleon has too much memory in my book, too hard of a line and parts easy... Gamakatsu is too soft.. Ultragreen just doesn't hold up very well for me.. And I can't stand fishing spectra... Anyone have any good suggestions?! Some black market stuff that someone is making in their backyard? Thanks in advance Tom
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#325404 - 12/23/05 01:38 AM
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
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I guess that makes you the one-man version of a "tough crowd".
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#325405 - 12/23/05 01:40 AM
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Fish Fear Me
Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 3376
Loc: Port Angeles
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Hehe.. look at the picture, I'm pratically a crowd of my own! =) Just aggravating.. Maybe I'm just expecting too much out of a line?! I dunno..
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#325406 - 12/23/05 10:10 AM
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Bead
Registered: 02/13/03
Posts: 1206
Loc: Duvall
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Maxima Ultra-green is on all my reels. Never failed me yet.
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#325408 - 12/23/05 11:29 AM
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8587
Loc: West Duvall
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I second the vote for Ironsilk. Its strong has little memory, and it’s abrasion resistant. I heard a complaint that the original Ironsilk was prone to breaking down if left in full sun. I never experienced any problem and fished with it in the tropics. The current version is a slightly different formulation. I think they have a winner.
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#325409 - 12/23/05 12:35 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 872
Loc: Backwoods of Kentucky
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Hi TBird, I don't know if this has anything to do with your dilemma/problem but how often are you changing your line? I used to think I could get away with changing my line about once in a season. With drift fishing from the bank being my primary tactic, I am finding that I have to change my line sometimes as much as 3 or 4 times in a season. Drift fishing is probably one of the worst techniques for getting abrasions and nicks in your line. Except maybe bank or dock fishing in the salt where you might be dragging your line across barnacle encrusted rocks & oyster shells. Good luck, Rafterman
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#325410 - 12/23/05 12:45 PM
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Fry
Registered: 08/09/05
Posts: 39
Loc: Modesto, California
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I've been fish with Cuda for the past couple of years and have been pretty happy with it. One of the big points for me has been that I can troll all day with it for trout and it doesn't turn into that nasty little springy little mess at the end of the day.
FishnMike
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#325411 - 12/23/05 12:49 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3068
Loc: Browns Point,Wa. USA
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I bought a case of Fenwick Riverline on closeout from Pure Fishing for fifty cents a spool. The stuff is ridiculously tough wet and dry, it ties killer knots and is visable eventhough it is a light motor oil color. call Pure Fishing and see if they have any. The stuff is awesome, but when it runs out it is going to be Iron Silk for me. I run Izorline in hi-viz yellow on the plug rods and Trilene XL on my spinning rods. I hate XL but I have never found anything with less memory.
Good luck!
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#325412 - 12/23/05 01:26 PM
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Fish Fear Me
Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 3376
Loc: Port Angeles
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Rafterman: I think I'm on my 5 spool up this season as I fish drift gear a lot and whenever I lose a setup I kill about 3 feet off the end to ensure that there are no knicks and what not.. If a line has that little lifespan, then I have reason to complain :rolleyes:
I think I might give the iron silk a try.. That's definitely one I haven't tried, but I'm sure it can get a little spendy the way I go through line! lol.. But I will certainly give it a good shot! Thanks Dave and Erik... Izor used to be a hell of a line in my book, We had a 10,000 yd bulk spool of it and kept it in the freezer and fished off it for like, 8 years and I loved it.. Anymore just can't stand it! Heres another question, Anyone know any better knots other than the clinch that has better knot strength?! I like to stick with good old reliable but if there seems to be a better one, please do fill me in! =) Do heavy wire/light wire swivels seem to play a part in knot strengths? Seems to me a heavy wire swivel would be less of a strain on the line?
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#325413 - 12/23/05 02:13 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 872
Loc: Backwoods of Kentucky
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Originally posted by TBird: Rafterman: I think I'm on my 5 spool up this season as I fish drift gear a lot and whenever I lose a setup I kill about 3 feet off the end to ensure that there are no knicks and what not.. If a line has that little lifespan, then I have reason to complain :rolleyes: I agree.....
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#325415 - 12/23/05 03:43 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 03/17/99
Posts: 783
Loc: Everett, WA USA
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Sulfix Tritanium. You have to get it mail order as there aren't any distributors in our area. It comes in green and clear. Tougher than U.G. lower memory even when cold. Better abrasion resistance and smaller diameter.
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#325416 - 12/23/05 04:10 PM
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Rivers Inlet knot...tough as nails...I use it for almost every line connection in my repertoire.
I use Maxima Crystal Ivory, and I change it out about every two or three trips, which means about once every week or ten days. That works out to about ten bucks per month, per rod...maybe a total of $40 per month I spend on line for my steelhead fishing.
Expensive? I guess, but it could be worse...and I spend more than that for gas for each and every trip, so from that standpoint, it's not that expensive.
This is the same point I made in one of the pink worm threads...no one said that steelhead fishing is a good financial decision! If that's what it takes to catch fish, then that's what it takes, for me, at least.
Fish on...
Todd
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#325419 - 12/23/05 08:46 PM
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Captain C/22 - Team Stay Up Right!
Registered: 01/13/00
Posts: 4404
Loc: Hurricane Ridge , Wa.
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What was that Berkley line B4 Ironsilk called?? Remember it came in 2 colors one was a photo-sensitive amber the other a moss green. It was tough as nails and had almost zero memory. Pretty cool stuff....C/22
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#325420 - 12/23/05 09:23 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4214
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
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Have you tried Trilene XT? I'm satisfied with it. It will nick up but I just trim it off.
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#325421 - 12/23/05 11:44 PM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 12/24/01
Posts: 1972
Loc: Kingston, WA
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Originally posted by Todd: I change it out about every two or three trips I do too. Ok, maybe not 2 or 3 trips but maybe every 4-5 times. But the trick I learned is to do like the fly guys do and use a backing or running line that you may only change out every other year or so. I usually use something tough and long lasting like Chamy as the running line and the attach approx. 100 ft of whatever line I want to use for my casting section. That way I'm not wasting so much line and I'm not as hesitant to change the business end of my line for the conditions (test, type and sometimes color) or just to keep it fresh. I like to use a double-uni between the two because it is strong and it doesn't hang up on the guides easily on a hot running fish. IMHO, there are alot of excellant lines out today, some of course are better for a particular reason over another. But overall the differences today are really more subjective than qualitative. So whenever I start to question my tackle, I just think back to the most deadly steelheader I ever knew (no one I know today can consistently bang metal like he could). This guy could easily afford anything he wanted but he always insisted on using his trusty old fiberglass rod loaded with 25# test McCoy on a cheap Phleuger fly reel. Of course his leader material was always state of the art, but if and when he changed his main line (maybe every 2-3 years) he would reverse the line first before he would toss it. I guess what I'm saying is: Have you tried 25 # McCoy lately? But now if you're wondering what " killer" would say? It'd probably be: Don't worry mon', be happy!
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