JLH,
I recall the first day of a history course I took in college; the first thing the professor said was history is a bunch of lies, so I will lie to you for months. What is written is what most of have to rely on, I do have ancestor stories that were handed down thru the generations. I used to listen to my great grandma talk, she was captivating when she talked about the past.

Another youtube for you, a little info on our founding fathers views on slavery.
Founding Fathers on Slavery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2jM7ccgj6c

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Sal,
I do not think people of other races are a different species or subspecies. I do not see love & hate as a DNA matter. In choosing a mate I assume love. In interacting with others there is often love. I see racism and prejudice as hate, it has hurt & harmed many people physically & it hurts the spirit, meaning down to the fundamental self. Your gang theory is closer to how I view it, when the majority picks on the minority. I do not see being against it as political correctness to me it is about treating human beings as human beings, nothing more and definitely nothing less. People fall in love with their hearts and I don’t think anyone can help who they love. Is it better to avoid other races or built into our DNA? To me no, IMO if it does have a DNA basis than the avoidance is fear. I have to get up at 5 & checked this site too late, gotta go to bed.

Your statement is absolutely correct! We are the products of our own experience. That experience is limited to the quality of the information going into our personal knowledge base. We defend this information as the absolute truth in our daily lives. We will sacrifice our lives, based on information that may be false, because we are in denial, and also for the purpose of protecting our ego. An ego, that's likely wrapped in a blanket of lies. Thoses blankets can represent, Religion, Flag, Race, Sex, and a endless number of other subjects. Each one laced with insufficient data, or data not proper assimilated , resulting in dysfunction. After all, much of the contents in our perceived truth's account, could in actuality be big fat lies. Our ego can cause us to cast a blind eye, to our own inhumanity towards others, as well as ourselves, when our accounts fall short on real truth's, knowledge or experience. This result's in errors and delussions, that are a direct result of insufficient, or faulty and tainted data in our account. Once our data bank is corrupted, we are prone to mistakes ( some severe), when we are required to make qualified decisions, that are logical, rational, moral, or in the best interest of ourselves as well as all humanity.

We need to delete the false data in our mental data bank, and be willing to upload better, more reliable data when appropriate. That's called being teachable, and open to spiritual and moral growth. Both are human qualities that are revered by moral people around the world. We do this (delete bad data), so that bad data doesn't skew the whole works, and cause dysfunction when we do a search of our data base looking for the right programs, or guidance and direction. Ultimately, it's the responsibility of the individual, to download and monitor their own data bank, in order to function properly when interacting with others in a civilized and humane society.

Playing follow the leader, if that leaders data base is loaded with viruses, is a poor choice if it results in harm or permanent damage, to our own data bank. In that situation (leader's virus affecting entire network), the only virus protection available, is the protection of a healing heart that's regularly upgraded with spirituality, and having a healthy respect for all of God's creation.



I'm in agreement with all you say. Kudo's for looking inside for a truth, that most civilized people recognize as human, appropriate and non toxic. You don't measure the human spirit with a DNA test.

JLH
Your right we all have our buttons LOL - guess mine is America. I know I would never carry that to the sadistic though cause I know myself and also I would not want to dishonor my country.

I do love America, feel lucky to be an American. I could list reasons but simply said our country is a land of liberty.

So how about some Ray Charles, he sings it the best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghz4_kikLkE

{Quote}: "Playing follow the leader, if that leaders data base is loaded with viruses, is a poor choice if it results in harm or permanently damage, to our own data bank. In that situation (leader's virus affecting entire network), the only virus protection available, is the protection of a healing heart that's regularly upgraded with spirituality, and having a healthy respect for all of God's creation. " {End Quote}

Could not then organized religion be considered "playing follow the leader"?
I consider religion to be hope.
People who live ther life in harsh conditions lean on religion more as a hope for their future and hope that the next life will be better than the meager one they are experiencing, creating a fearless pathway into the next world in their minds.
Wouldn't this explain the radical muslim's eagerness to leave this world and move on to the paradise awaiting them?
I believe religion to be a good thing for some that use it to expand love and compassion toward others and not so good for those that use it as a wedge to divide those with other beliefs.

My paradise is right here right now.

I step foot in Heaven from time to time and am satisfied to live with the consequences of an eternity of emptiness upon my passing knowing I have enjoyed and consumed beauty beyond description and a full and satisfying life.

Don't get me wrong, I am reverent in my spirituality, however it is a personal spituality based on my absolute love of Mother Nature.
I believe there was nothing but a void before my birth and will be nothing after I die.
I will simply cease to exist except for the memories instilled in my friends, family and aquaintances with my ashes simply returning to nutrients in mother nature's cycle.

Acording to some I'm doomed to burn in the fires of Hell for breaking out of the lockstep of organized religion.
Don't believe in heaven or hell, I believe you make those places for yourself here on Earth in your short stay.

Man's mind is an incredible thing, what other creature contemplates his existence?
Unfortunatley it is that overly developed brain that may doom himself and the rest of the wonderful creatures that we share this planet with.
Hope I'm nutrients well before that day.

Sal,
Ahhh and then there is religion, if you are the right race to fit the group then the next test is do you believe the same, share the same beliefs. In fact, religion can be more important to some than race & so very discriminating. There are religious fanatics & those who use it as a means to control other people, or hurt others, in those circumstances it is a horrible thing.

When I meet people with other beliefs it reminds me how great America is, a country where you are free to believe however or whatever you want. I think that forced religion is terrible as is the suppression of religion. America has made mistakes in race & in religion and there is still a lot of discrimination in both regards. We are a melting pot of people, all types of cultures, races, beliefs, and since we are a government of the people by the people, I believe our brotherhood will eventually win, just wish it was sooner than later but we are making progress.

I believe in God but I also know what you are saying about Nature, I have felt it to. Some people find solace & peace in God, others find it in nature, it is the same beauty. IMO it is an excellent way to live life, with appreciation & gratitude for being alive, religions could learn something from that. You said that you know your body will remain & be added basically to the circle of life, but to me there is something more to people than their bodies, something more to everything, like the sky in your pic, to me it wants to sing, just my humble opnion on the great mystery of life.

Perhaps a Wildabeast being chased down by a hungry lion? Why would the fuc%er run, otherwise.

Life is bliss no matter who or where you live! A view of paradise from another perspective.

http://www.aistigave.hit.bg/Logistics/

JLH,
WOW, one of your bliss pics is a depiction of a reoccurring nightmare I have, but whatever floats your boat!

Nice bwp!

My own personal choice for finding bliss is when the lady and I are practicing Kriya Tantra Yoga techniques together. Tantra Yoga allows us, (guy's especially) to prolong (your choice) "bliss," and our partners dig it even more. Get my drift?

Too much personal information.

I thought I was on your ignore list.

Besides I was addressing bwp, as he had addressed me, that is if it's OK with you. Thank you!

Before he edited his post, there was a video of a beautiful lady singing and dancing that he pointed out to ME (JLH) as being blissful. It reminded me of Tantra and I responded with "nice." You need to keep up if you want to talk man talk with men.

Try sending him a private message then, instead of telling the world via internet how you want to talk man to man with him about sex. Especially since it appears you need some sort of "assistance" with getting it up.

It seems that you are way more proficient at talking man talk (XXX) to the World on a regular basis via this site and the Internet than most here. Why was it not required of bwp to do the same in the message he addressed to me, that he later deleted of the beautiful dancing and sexy white lady (as he put it) that he thought was bliss for him?

Never mind! All you choose to do is target me, that is after a couple of weeks ago, telling members and the World that I was on your Ignore list. When you clicked on the thread you knew it was one of my posts that you were clicking onto, yet you still clicked on it and then decide to play this holier than thy bullsh!t. Man you are really showing just how miserable you are by practicing and acting out the ugly ole troll behavior.

You have been way more graphic and descriptive in conversations on this board about all things manly, and you seem to be attracted to any thread with a potential XXX rating posted by men, while inviting others (WWW) with an offer of cookies to come join in the fun. But,...... when I mention to another member Tantra Yoga, you pretend to be highly offended. To be more specific, Bliss is often associated with this form of Yoga. Not sure why anyone would be offended at prolonging bliss, unless that person doesn't want to be reminded that they are incapable of experiencing bliss. If that's your case then I am sorry for bwp's and I sharing our thoughts on bliss. BTW, it is not my intention to offend any disabled or retarded person.

If you are so concerned that X rated material not be discussed in this forum, then why don't you address it to yourself first, and then to the rest of the board. I wouldn't be surprised if 5000 of the 10,000 posts that you have made to this forum was an (XXX). Now you are telling me that it offends you and is undesirable.

Again, you place both of your feet in a big pile of ugly__, but then again what else should I expect from you but ugly and nasty when it comes to addressing me.

You probably wont be reading this because of your pledge to not respond and to ignore my posts,... however, I think your reading it would help you to realize that what's going on between your ears and between another location (I wont mention) is the need for a major 10,000 posts tune-up. May I suggest Kriya Tantra Yoga?

A rant and personal attack.

Typical, pathetic and classless, but that's what I've come to expect from you.

You read it! WOW! I am soooooo surprised. However I see that you are still stuck on stupid.

Here's another one for you to ignore. Not!

Hold on there JLH, you are putting words into my mouth.

I posted a woman dancing hula which is no more sexual to me than a woman singing Ava Maria in church!

I mentioned she was white keeping with the beginning of the thread where Obama was calling white people typical, because she dances the hula with such great spirit, a hula she modified, it was not typical. I was being sarcastic, I did not presented well it well at all.

The song is love of home, one of my favorite songs. It was in English so I thought it would be understood but I forgot that on the mainland hula is probably not understood.

I feel like I insulted the woman & her dance & the love of land & it makes me upset. It was not meant the way you took it, not at all, which is why I immediately removed it when I saw your comment. You were going a different direction with it, and it is my fault for not explaining better.

I wish this thread would go away.

Me too.

You attached bliss to it and that is what I responded to. Your idea of bliss and my idea of bliss is obviously different. You directed to me as an example of bliss, and I responded with the comment "nice." I wasn't critical at all of what you defined as bliss. If you hadn't spoken directly at me of your idea of what represented a proper example, I wouldn't have offered what I thought was a more appropriate personal definition for me in a reply, as well as sharing a resource for methods I find useful in garnering more bliss in my life and my relationship with my significant other. I wasn't trying to be hostile, and I didn't see a reason for you to delete your own personal choice. Hula and Tantra are similar. They both are calming, sensual and relaxing, all of which are useful in meditation. Tantra and meditation go hand in had. Meditation is not pornography? Where did that come from anyway? Read a book or something( before assuming), if you are not familiar with a subject, and therefore it must be evil and wrong.

Maybe everyone's definition of bliss is different, and that's OK.... But, don't jump on me if mine is not the same as yours. No where have I ever posted a pic of naked women or man in this forum. In fact some feel that they are doing Aunty a favor by posting naked men in this forum, and then calling her to come see. Which BTW, she usually does. The reason for my stand alone commit directed to you, was that after I posted my comment, you removed yours leaving mine to stand alone.

It was Aunty fanning flames that were not necessary in the first place. I don't see how my comments were anymore X rated than other posts made in this forum including Aunty's.

Remember, see told everyone that she had me marked as ignore? So why this and for what? I'm to much into ponography to suit her or something? Tantra Yoga is not ponograhic, it about meditation. You don't purchase it in the Red Light District.

Again bwp, no where in my post did I attack you. It was Aunty attacking me.

I bet that the clip you posted and deleted would have made a difference and by no means negative. Tantra Yoga benefits all systems of the body (both physical as well as emotional).
I don't consider sex dirty or something that shouldn't be spoken in connection to Bliss. Bliss suggest enjoyment and I also enjoy sex as well. I don't have record of posting sexually explicit material in the forum. Tantra..look it up and you will understand where i'm coming from.

I said "too much personal information". There is something seriously wrong with anyone who considers that a personal attack. And for you to go on a multi paragraph rant shows...

You need some fricken mental health help.

Why didn't you mind your own business in the first place. Besides I was addressing bwp, as he had addressed me, that is if it's OK with you. Thank you! Why do I have to answer to you before I post or after I post? Your above reply is way more pornographic than any of the Tantra referenced stuff was.

Again, you probably wont read this because as you have stated I'm on your ignore list. But just in case, read your above statements in combination with your trying to disapline me for posting to a thread and realize who initiate an attack. Again, I recommend Tantra for helping you with your problem of excessive cyber masturbating, using men in a forum on the internet. We may need to get a room in this forum, for you to take your invitee into and you can keep your nasty mess contained. Just some advise for a lonely frustrated, dysfunctional "woman."