#442436 - 07/06/08 02:31 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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KK, I will take your word for it. I lack the historical knowledge of the IAEA and what they did with the yellow cake or when it was discovered. It appears I drew conclusions of a wmd find, without historical knowledge. I shouldnt do that.
thanks.
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#442438 - 07/06/08 02:36 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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cool...............I don't know everything there is too know, but with access to Lexis I can search out things that would otherwise be harder to find. I am a liberal....................so you'd expect I'll get it right, more often than not................. 
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#442441 - 07/06/08 02:56 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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Ever fish the Sacramento for trout around Redding ?
[/quote] I was there Memorial Day. A friend from New Hampshire was here for a Hewlitt-Packard seminar and I took her up to Redding to see her ex mother-in-law. Fished the Sac the next day with mixed results from a boat. Should have been fly fishing, they were killing them with nymphs. I love it up that way. Many moons ago I lived in Hoopa and worked in a lumber mill there. The Trinity is a beautiful river too.
Fear mongering will never die. The Dems have used it with fantastic success too. The anti-Goldwater ad is a classic example and probably the birthplace for the art.
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#442442 - 07/06/08 02:59 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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Both parties do it, but you have to admit that "the smoking gun might be in the form of a mushroom cloud" is pretty tough to beat...
Fish on...
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#442443 - 07/06/08 03:15 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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I fished it last year out of a boat with a guide from The Fly Shp. Had a Sunday down there after we went to a wedding in Red Bluff on a Saturday, so took a half day float that turned into 7 hours. Those fish were nice, fat and hard fighting, we did the 2 nymph thing and just slayed fish from the Sundial Bridge down. We spent a few hours just picking that short stretch above the bridge apart, right bank and that little island upstream from the bridge. I'd do that fishery again anytime, nice climate, nice fish...............probably hit it when the flows drop this fall/winter. That ad only ran once, amazing that after all this time people still remember it so well..................Dem landslide that year............. 
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#442445 - 07/06/08 03:38 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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We fished from just below the dam to just below the bridge,both sides. Used spinning gear because the friend had never tried a fly rod. Caught some spunky native 'bows on crawlers,roe and lures. The most effective was the F4 Flatfish in silver because of all the Salmon smolt in the river at the time. The guide we were with had some 8-17# rods but I brought along a SR781 with 6# on a Stradic. They were a lot more fun on that gear.
That was a benchmark ad....just waiting to see what they come up with for this cycle for both sides. How many black churches do you think McCain will burn down this year?
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#442447 - 07/06/08 03:49 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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That would be Radical Muslims and most likely the ones he met at the school he went to.
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#442448 - 07/06/08 03:54 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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Oh right..............the madrassa....................almost forgot. I also forgot that you can never write the word 'Muslims' without 'Radical' immediately preceeding it. See...............I could never cut it as a wingnut columnist or pundit, I don't hear the 'dog whistles' like they do.............  You know Obama isn't even a citizen, but the liberal media just won't cover the story, it's only well known over on Free Republic.com............. 
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#442452 - 07/06/08 04:15 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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Well, at republicanswillmakeyouhatetofu.org they are already spouting "McCain was born in PANAMA CITY, he has no right to call himself a citizen." Doesn't matter.....I'm still not voting for Obama....or Ron Paul.
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#442454 - 07/06/08 04:20 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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What about Bob Barr ? Can't question his bonafides........he hates Clinton too, always counts for a few votes amongst Conservatives.........  I figure you for more of a 'movement conservative', as opposed to a 'theocon' or 'neocon' type of conservative. Barr would be a good choice if you can't abide Ron Paul's libertarian small government type of thing. Wait a minute....................  .............isn't that what Republicans stand for ? I think Barr's your man, but in reality, Obama will take your state easily, so might as well not even vote for President, take the day off and go fishing, you have my blessing............. 
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#442456 - 07/06/08 04:44 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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B-1 Bob? He's got the conservative credentials but has the Curtis LeMay attitude. Iran would be a sheet of glass in the first couple of months of his presidency.
It's not a tough call to hate the Clintons. You'd be surprised at the number of people in this town that do. Of course they're mostly Obamabots here and you know how the Clintons villified the man. All of that racist talk. Can you imagine the Chutzpa of the Hildabeest going on campaign finance tours to retire her debt? Why can't she just write it off as a bad investment and do another book thing to cover the loss?
In my state Bo Diddly could run on the Dem ticket and get 67%. My thought is I'm going to write in Newt on the absentee ballot and go fishing for a couple of weeks. Wake me when it's over.
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#442458 - 07/06/08 05:01 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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God Bless America................  .................... I think you're thinking of Bob Dornan..............I'm talking about the Libertarian Party candidate, Bob Barr from Georgia. But yeah........Dornan...................  ...................he's a real piece of work.....................is he still around ? He lost to Loretta Sanchez..................that's gotta hurt him when he thinks about it........... 
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#442463 - 07/06/08 05:32 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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Thanks for correcting me. Yeah Loretta Sanchez. Changed her party and then her name to the Hispanic one before the election to get that vote. Lots of drama there: illegal votes,but not enough to overturn the election. If I'm not mistaken, she's the first Dem in that office from Orange County in a very long time. I'm not sure what Dornan is doing now. Probably working as a conservative talk show host in the 12-4 A.M. time slot.
I like Barr and his stance on the restoration of civil liberties and taking away some of the powers of the executive branch. I do love the constitution and appreciate those that are strict adherents. His role in the impeachment and the Waco hearings was much appreciated. Henry Hyde and Lindsey Graham were not too shabby either.
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#442464 - 07/06/08 05:34 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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Probably working as a conservative talk show host in the 12-4 A.M. time slot.
Took G. Gordon Liddy's old time slot, eh ?
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#442466 - 07/06/08 05:48 PM
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Just did a little wikipedia search on B-1. He sometimes fills in for Michael Savage and is currently working with a pro-life group. Some of his quotes are rather amusing. When outing a fellow Republican on the house floor he said the guy had a revolving door on his closet. Had to chuckle at that one. I'm sure he got along famously with Barney Frank.
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#442490 - 07/06/08 07:17 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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He might have won, if he hadnt written a couple checks at the house bank and then turned around and run for president in 96. He did poorly.
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#442493 - 07/06/08 07:43 PM
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Writing a couple of bad checks at the house bank shouldn't be a disqualification for election. Babs Boxer did it and she's sitting pretty.
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#442494 - 07/06/08 07:54 PM
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He did poorly in the Pres race, and when he tried to re-take his seat, he got walloped 84-16................. I read the Wiki bit, the fact that he was an actor and related to the Scarecrow (or was it the Tin Man) explains a lot about how he won a seat in the first place. Those crazy Californians have a thing about electing actors. Arnie, Sonny Bono, Dornan, and some others as well....................... 
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#442496 - 07/06/08 08:05 PM
Re: Special delivery from Iraq
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Im probably going to get flamed, but more is expected of R. Although it was a contributing factor in the Tidal wave of 94. Dems seem to forgive that stuff. There is no better example than Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd. Barney Frank and Steni Hoyer.
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