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#553205 - 11/07/09 01:39 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Hankster]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster

Hoffman runs again as the only R on the ballot in '10 and wins. Book it!



I say again.
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#553206 - 11/07/09 01:42 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Hankster]
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rofl

Maybe he'll get a challenge from the right ? or the left ?

Hoffman is a bonafide idiot, demonstrated by his own words.

Bottom line, Dems won, got another vote for health care, and Owens ran on it.

So much for the conventional wisdom that Dems couldn't win the seat, with a candidate who backed Obama policies ........
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#553209 - 11/07/09 01:44 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Banned User]
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Watching the GOP in action on C-Span reminds me why they lose elections.

Boehner is a total waste of space, a mindless drone without a clue.
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#553211 - 11/07/09 01:47 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Banned User]
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Anything to say about the other elections?

The ones where the winners ran on pocketbook rather than social issues?

The ones where it was once again proven that the Independents giveth and the Independents taketh away?
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#553212 - 11/07/09 01:49 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Banned User]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid

Choose not to, and you get fined, much like auto insurance, when you get caught.


thats not a fair comparison.... Auto insurance is for liability purposes to protect the other drivers from your stupidity... ("your" being the collective all of us in this case)... its to bad they don't require proof of auto insurance to renew a drivers license...

Health care is something that a person should be able to walk into a hospital and pay for... health insurance should be for something catastrophic and the premiums should not cost 8-10% of your income...
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#553213 - 11/07/09 01:52 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Hankster]
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corzine ? already had a super low approval.

it's what happens when you get elected and make poor decisions.

Nobody, and I mean nobody trusts the GOP on any issue................present company excepted of course.

Like I said, one more Dem vote in the House, expanding their majority once again............something that has been a trend for a while now.

If the GOP didn't stampede every single moderate out of the party, weren't controlled by the teabaggers, and Palinistas.

When a voter sits down and listens to what Repuglycans that run for national office say, really listen, they vote Dem.

Palin..................Bachman.................Foxx............. how NOT to appeal to undecided women voters.
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#553215 - 11/07/09 02:01 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Hankster]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Independents giveth and the Independents taketh away?


There was another state as I recall. A Purple one where the two facing off had previously run against each other for AG. The R won by a small fraction of the vote. This time he won by what? 40 points?

The tides they are a changing my friend. If the Dems don't lower those unemployment numbers they can just kiss it all good-bye.
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#553219 - 11/07/09 02:13 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Hankster]
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I've heard since 2004 how the R's are going to win every single election since then, because 'the people' don't like liberals.

After the health care bill is passed, watch the numbers go up for Dems.

Teabaggers have an entire year longer to complete the takeover of the GOP................. wink .....................and their 'leaders' are the wingnut fringe.

Bachman, Palin....................names that resonate with.................the GOP base, problem is, nowhere else.

grin
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#553246 - 11/07/09 03:32 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Banned User]
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I don't know how Dem numbers can go up when most people oppose the current plan, but whatever you say KK.

To say the Dem majority is safe if unemployment numbers don't go down is to deny the economy being the reason Obama got elected. That's the reason and you know it. You even said as such.

It doesn't matter if the R's dig up the rotted remains of Reagan and use him for their leader. People want to see evidence that jobs are out there and they'll get rid of the people that they think are not doing enough to make that happen.

This isn't a partisan thing on my part, it's just simply reality. I don't like the current GOP any more than you do.
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#553250 - 11/07/09 03:44 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Hankster]
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Ya but you want it to fail...................... rofl

I don't see where the GOP will get control of anything, and that includes their own tebaggers.

grin

It is the reaping of what they have sown for 30 some years. Now the 'fringe' of the party has become both the face of the party, and the voice as well.
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#553265 - 11/07/09 04:39 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Banned User]
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Claiming that the president was preying on the public's fear of contracting a fatal disease last week when he declared the H1N1 virus a national emergency, Republican leaders announced Wednesday that they were officially endorsing the swine flu. "Thousands of Americans—hardworking ordinary Americans like you and me—already have H1N1," Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele said during a press conference. "Now Obama wants to take that away from us. Ask yourself: Do you want the federal government making these kinds of health care decisions for you and your family?" Other prominent Republicans opposing Obama's declaration of emergency include Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal, who urged residents of his state to continue not washing their hands, and radio host Rush Limbaugh, who made a point of dying of the virus during his show on Wednesday
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#553270 - 11/07/09 04:56 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Banned User]
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Judging by the way the vaccine program is being run by this govt, I doubt there are too many fears of actually being vaccinated.

Any truth to the rumor in Business Week that Goldman Sachs executives got it before the NYC area hospitals did?

Heard the Guantanamo prisoners don't have to worry about swine of any kind either........ rofl
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#553408 - 11/07/09 10:12 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Hankster]
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Help me decide, Ford or Chevy????
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#553423 - 11/07/09 10:44 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: fish4brains]
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neither...


Toyota smile
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#553424 - 11/07/09 10:46 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Piper]
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9mm or .45acp
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#553427 - 11/07/09 11:24 PM Re: Buy Health Insurance or Face Jail Time? [Re: Dogfish]
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.40 cal., of course.

Fish on...

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