#610414 - 07/12/10 04:40 PM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Cuz we can always tell what kind of hitter someone is going to be in 8 at bats. Thanks for proving my point 
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#610418 - 07/12/10 04:47 PM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Thanks for proving my point Wasnt really all that difficult ... I would say stick to politics but ... 
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#610420 - 07/12/10 04:57 PM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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You might as well have laid it on a tee for me Chuck. Pointing out his average after 8 AB's with the team?? Talk to me at All-Star break next year then we'll see how good of a trade this turned out to be. I'll leave the politics to KK and 4Skin because they're so very knowledgable on everything that should be done to make this country great again. 
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#610422 - 07/12/10 05:09 PM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Lol. Thats what I love this place... His BA is just setting the tone. Waiting til next all Star break is way too long. I am amazed how this team keeps pissing away seasons so early. Next on the M's turd list ... Bedard
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#610481 - 07/12/10 08:58 PM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
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it was a good trade for the M's, this season is already a done deal with or without Lee.
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#610487 - 07/12/10 09:51 PM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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it was a good trade for the M's, this season is already a done deal with or without Lee. How the hell do you write off a season not even 1/2 way through it? So next year when we are again sitting less than .500 we make more genius trades? what then? Trade felix next season for a .217 hitter? 
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#610488 - 07/12/10 10:03 PM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Dude, where's my boat?
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it was a good trade for the M's, this season is already a done deal with or without Lee. How the hell do you write off a season not even 1/2 way through it? So next year when we are again sitting less than .500 we make more genius trades? what then? Trade felix next season for a .217 hitter? Cmon Chuck, you know the Huskies have written off their football season often before its even started the past 1/2 decade...LOL
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#610492 - 07/12/10 10:16 PM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Now now ... just because coming in 2nd is like kissing your sister doesnt mean we gotta go gettin' all statistic here again
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#610511 - 07/13/10 05:54 AM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
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How the hell do you write off a season not even 1/2 way through it?
wait and see...
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#610518 - 07/13/10 07:02 AM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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How the hell do you write off a season not even 1/2 way through it?
wait and see... Unfortunately I keep seeing it ... year after year after year etc Rebuilding?
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#610521 - 07/13/10 07:20 AM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Thanks for proving my point I'll agree with you here salmosalar.
You mean the point you didn't make? I'll leave the politics to KK and 4Skin because they're so very knowledgable on everything that should be done to make this country great again. Maybe you should leave the baseball stuff to them too, or salmosalar. Hell,...he didn't take 1 AB during spring training. Not true... I see you have reading comprehension issues. Try to stay with me here. Go back to the beginning of the thread,......I stated this was a good trade before salmosalar ever jumped in the fray. I agreed with him because he's right. The point I stated Chuck helped to prove was that most M's fans are clueless about baseball. Evident by his pointing to Smoak's 8 AB's as some sort of indicator as to how this trade will pan out over time. If I used big colored spelling blocks would it be more helpful?
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#610526 - 07/13/10 07:43 AM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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If I used big colored spelling blocks would it be more helpful?
You would still be wrong. When he is hitting less than .209 when we got him at end of season ... I will post up a congrats for ya
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#610538 - 07/13/10 09:20 AM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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The M.'s are a statistical lock not to make the playoffs. Do the math. They are 13 games out with 75 or so to play. The season is over.
The M.'s have been bad not because they constantly "rebuild" but because under Bavasi they threw money around and could not build from the inside, bottom up. Beltre, Bedard, Sexson, Silva etc. handcuffed the team. The M.'s have spent monry. It just hasn't worked. In fact free agent signings generally don't. They are very risky and inefficient.
Chuck,
It's a square peg round hole argument. Your recolection of history is backwards. When were they last "sellers" at the deadline?
Go Red Sox,
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#610540 - 07/13/10 09:22 AM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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When were they last "sellers" at the deadline?
Go Red Sox,
cds One can hope sometimes cant he there are lots of fat ladys singin in the safe, but sometimes it pays off to be the optimist
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#610553 - 07/13/10 10:21 AM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Be the optimist if you want, but the season for us is over. Since the addition of the wild card there has only been 2 teams with a sub .500 record at the All-Star break make the playoffs (Twins and Reds), both those teams were only 1 game under .500, not the 9 or so the Mariners are. And since the 2d and 3d place teams in the East have a better record than the rest of the American league, there is no way we could get the wild card let alone win the Division.
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#610700 - 07/14/10 07:20 AM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Too bad we can't trade Ichiro before he gets too old in baseball years.
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#610731 - 07/14/10 10:04 AM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Too bad we can't trade Ichiro before he gets too old in baseball years. Yea ... we dont have much use for a .320 hitter 
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#610739 - 07/14/10 10:41 AM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Ichiro's value is greater to the M.'s than any other team. He attracts a lot of fans to the stadium. He also makes 17 mil. or so. If you were to trade him you would either recieve very little in return or be required to pay his salary.
Ichiro is a real unique player who is very hard to put a value on. He hits for very little power at a power position, is unable to hit outside the leadoff spot due to his lack of power and remarkable amount of infield hits, doesn't walk, and is expensive.
On the other hand he gets lots of hits, is the best defensive RF'er in the game, runs the bases well, and creates revenue. I have never been able to figure out if he's undervalued or overvalued. I suspect that on a better team he'd be a better player.
He's almost untradable though. His salary and age would not allow for him to bring much back. On the other hand he may play well into his forties given his fitness level.
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#610750 - 07/14/10 11:31 AM
Re: Could the Mariners be anymore retarded???????
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Ichiro's value is greater to the M.'s than any other team. He attracts a lot of fans to the stadium. He also makes 17 mil. or so. If you were to trade him you would either recieve very little in return or be required to pay his salary.
Ichiro is a real unique player who is very hard to put a value on. He hits for very little power at a power position, is unable to hit outside the leadoff spot due to his lack of power and remarkable amount of infield hits, doesn't walk, and is expensive.
On the other hand he gets lots of hits, is the best defensive RF'er in the game, runs the bases well, and creates revenue. I have never been able to figure out if he's undervalued or overvalued. I suspect that on a better team he'd be a better player.
He's almost untradable though. His salary and age would not allow for him to bring much back. On the other hand he may play well into his forties given his fitness level.
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