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#712647 - 10/24/11 03:11 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Like its going to be a panacea if the Repubs get the WH, look how disastrous it was last time. The ONLY thing the REPUGNANTS are interested in is making President Obama a one term president, even if it ruins this country.

Bush the talking head for Cheney, two unfunded wars and dead soldiers, billions lost and given away to corporate masters and trillions added to the deficit and leaving a colossal mess for the next guy to deal with.

Only thing Boehner and McConnell will do is try and get more tax breaks for their corporate masters.

Yeah the Repubs are so much better, right!!!!!


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#712715 - 10/24/11 07:15 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: goharley]
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Originally Posted By: goharley


By the way,
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Labor Department data show that only a tiny percentage of companies that experience large layoffs cite government regulation as the reason. Since Barack Obama took office, just two-tenths of 1 percent of layoffs have been due to government regulation, the data show.




Gov't Regulations at Top of Small-Business Owners' Problem List
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#712763 - 10/24/11 10:04 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Okay. I provided empirical data from the Labor Department that showed government regulation had virtually no impact on layoffs. You then counter with a Gallup Poll indicating small businesses are worried about government regulation. How are they related? Because they both use the words government and regulation?

They seem mutually exclusive.

But since you provided the link...

Interesting that none of the small businesses named government regulations as a concern leading to going out of business. They only said following regulation by others like them were a concern. And what type of regulation? Following building codes? Not selling diseased meat and produce? I also noticed that only 12% said less government regulation was needed in order for their business to thrive. As opposed to the 29% that said they needed sales increase (demand) and job creation.

Maybe if the republican House would put together some type of meaningful jobs bill those 29% wouldn't have to worry so much.
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#714029 - 10/29/11 03:07 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: goharley]
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Experts begin to doubt Obama’s re-electability

Where’s the evidence President Obama can win the 2012 election?

Where’s the evidence that swing voters even want to listen to him?

Ruh-oh
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#715467 - 11/03/11 06:51 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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#715469 - 11/03/11 07:00 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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From the article...

"Obama has gone from a modest favorite to win re-election to, probably, a slight underdog. Let’s not oversell this. A couple of months of solid jobs reports, or the selection of a poor Republican opponent, would suffice to make him the favorite again. "

Job report is good this month...and whatever Republican is chosen, assuming he comes from the field as it exists now, is "poor" by definition...so I guess the answer to your questions is "no", Obama is not toast.

Fish on...

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#715485 - 11/03/11 07:35 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Todd]
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I think you'll have to rely on a poor Republican candidate. The "good" jobs report doesn't cover the number of people entering the workforce each month; let alone the 14+ million who are unemployed.

It will be interesting to say the least, to see Obama running on his record.
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#715489 - 11/03/11 07:40 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Without really having to get anything done between now and the election he can win...just keep sending stuff to the Republicans in Congress, who will reject everything, and keep pointing out that they are doing just that, and let the Republican nominees take turns stepping their own and each others' dicks for another year, and he'll have it wrapped up.

Fish on...

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#715491 - 11/03/11 07:43 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Todd]
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So far, most anything the Republicans are blocking is okey-dokey with the average voter. Most of them can't wait until Obamacare is repealed.
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#715494 - 11/03/11 07:45 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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As fun as listening to you squirm If a Repub got into office and they used their roadmap to jobs, IE: tax breaks for the "jobs creators" and oh umm yeah and tax breaks for the "jobs creators", I don't think this country could take another round of "trickle down" poverty.
Careful what you wish for you just may get it.

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#715495 - 11/03/11 07:46 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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No, they are not. Check the polls to see what Americans think about the entire Obama jobs plan, and the parts that are now being shot down.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the health care plan.

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#715496 - 11/03/11 07:51 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Todd]
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/149447/americans-favor-obama-jobs-plan.aspx

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63482.html

http://www.gallup.com/poll/149567/americans-favor-jobs-plan-proposals-including-taxing-rich.aspx

There's a few, first three that come up on Google...granted, it's not overwhelming support by any means, but more approve of it than disapprove...including those who live in districts with Republican representatives who are voting against the wishes of their constituencies. Why? Well, because they don't represent their constituencies, at least not the ones who are actual persons, rather than Romney's "CorporealCorporations".

Fish on...

Todd

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#715499 - 11/03/11 07:53 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd


P.S. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the health care plan.


Whoever runs for the GOP is going to hang that around his neck like a big brass bell. How it was passed; how "you have to pass it before you know what's in it"; how it even now is costing people more for their health insurance.

The big thing though will be J-O-B-S...and not the public employee J-O-B-S and not the road and bridge building J-O-B-S and not the "green technology" J-O-B-S.

J-O-B-S.
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#715501 - 11/03/11 07:59 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Yeah, I can see Willard getting really far with that argument rofl



Let's face it...Mitt's gonna be the nominee, and even if the health care plan is the biggest thing the Republicans have got on Obama, the one single man running who can't say jackshit about it...is, of course, Willard Mitt Romney.

As I said in another thread...what a bunch of buffoons. I think if the Democrats were to infiltrate the Republican Party they could not have come up with a better group of idiots to run for the nomination...were I a cynical man I'd almost wonder if the TeaBaggers were actually funded by Buffet, instead of Dick Armey...they're worse for the Republicans than anything Democrats could have come up with.

Fish on...

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#715545 - 11/03/11 10:10 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Hank-----How it was passed; how "you have to pass it before you know what's in it"; how it even now is costing people more to bank at those banks after they were bailed out.
The Bank bail out was rammed down our throats and cost us plenty, I thought this was a capitalist society where you either made or you didn't. I don't see much complaining about that here....


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#715559 - 11/04/11 05:17 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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Not sure how a jobs report could be good when 390,000 people filed new claims for unemployment.
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#715563 - 11/04/11 06:08 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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But Jerry, 80,000 jobs were added in Oct and the unemployment rate is down to a mind-boggling low of 9%. That's gotta be good news...right?

Report Shows a Mere 80,000 Jobs Added in U.S. in October
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#715565 - 11/04/11 06:42 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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I'm sure this terrible economy has nothing to do with two unfunded wars and one of the most hated presidents in history running this country into the ground just like every business he ever ran ( Bush bankrupted 6-7 business's and no not the Rangers cause he was only a minor owner).


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#715576 - 11/04/11 07:31 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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Originally Posted By: Somethingsmellsf
I'm sure this terrible economy has nothing to do with two unfunded wars


Fishy


That actually has more to do with debt and not the economy. As bad as it sounds, there is employment in the defense industry.
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#715578 - 11/04/11 07:39 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Somethingsmellsf
I'm sure this terrible economy has nothing to do with two unfunded wars


Fishy


As bad as it sounds, there is employment in the defense industry.


Great lets start another unfunded war!

Fishy
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