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#712452 - 10/23/11 04:36 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Hell, I even voted for Nader in '96. More of a protest vote against NAFTA and Clinton's trade policies. But I wouldn't had done so had I believed that Dole stood even a remote chance of winning that election. A safe protest vote is one thing. A stupid vote that helps elect a Republican president is something else altogether.
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#712516 - 10/23/11 09:17 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Rooselk]
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Recent Gallup polling showed Obama with a 49 percent job approval rating among Hispanics, compared with about 60 percent in the beginning of 2011. Hispanic voters could prove pivotal next year, especially in fast-growing and contested states such as Florida, New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado.
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#712519 - 10/23/11 09:51 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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You keep confusing "disapprove of Obama" with "will vote for a Republican"...there's a mile of space between the two, and even if Hispanics disapprove of Obama 2-1, they'll still overwhelmingly vote for him.

Why? Because they'll approve of any of the tools the Republicans manage to dump out of their tool bag even less.

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#712525 - 10/23/11 10:21 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Todd]
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Hankster, the primary reason that the Latino approval numbers are down for Obama is because there has been no progress on immigration reform. Given the fact that Repubicans are the primary obstacles to such reform it's highly doubtful (to put it kindly) that latinos are suddenly going to embrace GOP candidates.
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#712534 - 10/24/11 01:24 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Rooselk]
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It's really a contest on who promises the most free stuff......and there is no comparison on the "promises".

Problem with that is.......we are spending what we don't have.....pretend that is not a problem. Amazing the willingness to become so dependant. I thought we were great because of our INdependance.....seems I was/am wrong. Corruption and greed are not just a factor of the rich.
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#712538 - 10/24/11 05:15 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Slab Happy]
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A sizable majority — more than 7 in 10 — believe the country is headed in the wrong direction and, in a new high, 43 percent describe the nation’s economy as “very poor,” according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll. Among those surveyed, less than 40 percent say Obama’s proposed remedies for high unemployment would increase jobs significantly.
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#712551 - 10/24/11 07:18 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Hanks, since you are suddenly all about polls, please tell us the approval rate for congress.
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#712552 - 10/24/11 07:27 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Well Dave, the RCP average approval for congress is currently 12.8%.

Bear in mind, the Senate is controlled by Dems... wink

In the debt ceiling battle, Reid polled lower than Boehner.. smile


In a survey of 1,007 adults conducted July 27, 41 percent of respondents approved of Obama’s handling of the crisis. Boehner is 10 points behind with a 31 percent approval rating, and opinions of Reid bottom out with only 23 percent approval. Gallup notes that more Americans had opinions about Obama’s actions, and that he loses some of his advantage when “no opinion” votes are factored out: He gets 44 percent approval and 45 percent disapproval, compared with 39 percent approval and 61 percent disapproval for Boehner, and 31 percent approval and 69 percent disapproval for Reid.
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#712554 - 10/24/11 07:34 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Yeah, those danged ol' Democrats blocking everything with filibusters and such....














And the republicans still have not produced any serious legislature aimed at creating jobs.
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#712555 - 10/24/11 07:39 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: goharley]
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Yeah, those danged ol' Democrats coming up with POS legislation that begs for blockage.






And the democrats still have not produced any SERIOUS legislation aimed at creating jobs in the private sector.


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#712559 - 10/24/11 07:55 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster


And the democrats still have not produced any SERIOUS legislation aimed at creating jobs in the private sector.


grin


Except for Stretch Pelosi of course; she thinks unemployment insurance creates jobs.

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#712563 - 10/24/11 08:12 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Dang Hank, I think your new name should be rotorooter for all the spinning through the crap you do.
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#712564 - 10/24/11 08:13 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Because the Senate republicans don't have the balls to even debate legislation, they should just block it? There's some solid ethics, right there.


And unemployment insurance does have more potential to create jobs than does the corporate tax breaks the republicans keep blathering about.
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#712573 - 10/24/11 08:42 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Vedder
Dang Hank, I think your new name should be rotorooter for all the spinning through the crap you do.


Great line Dave!


I also notice that pesky little problem keeps coming up with the Republican legislation that includes tax breaks for all those "job creators", yeah lets shovel more money up stairs and see what falls through the cracks!!!!!


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#712584 - 10/24/11 10:02 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: ]
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Reverse Robin Hood, also known as Reaganomics.

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#712597 - 10/24/11 11:57 AM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Illahee]
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What Hank can't or won't see is that the electorate is angry with EVERYONE!! Rs Ds, whatever. The peole are unhappy over many things and this is not a good sign for ANY politician.
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#712609 - 10/24/11 12:37 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Dave Vedder]
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What I can and do see is there's bad news for Dems.. grin

The voters were angry in '06 and there was bad news for the GOP. More anger and more bad news for the GOP in '08 when the economy and the war sucked. No change in the economy in '10 and more angered voters brought on mucho bad news for Dems. Same or worse economy now will present Dems with still more bad news in '12.

Even if Obama pulls it off and wins the election, he'll be dealing with McConnell as Senate Majority Leader and Boehner retaining his position as Speaker of the House,two heartbeats from the presidency.

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#712613 - 10/24/11 12:47 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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So... what would you like to see happen in the next election Hank... and why?
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#712636 - 10/24/11 02:17 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: Hankster]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
...McConnell as Senate Majority Leader and Boehner retaining his position as Speaker of the House...
That's bad news for America. We'll be known as the United Corporation of America. And Hank will lead the chant: UCA! UCA! UCA!

By the way,
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Labor Department data show that only a tiny percentage of companies that experience large layoffs cite government regulation as the reason. Since Barack Obama took office, just two-tenths of 1 percent of layoffs have been due to government regulation, the data show.


House republicans still will not draft meaningful legislation to stimulate job growth. But they've got more of those pesky regulations in their sights.
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#712641 - 10/24/11 02:43 PM Re: Bad news for Dems [Re: goharley]
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Enjoy your fantasy Hank. Fantasy is usually better than reality.
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