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#746610 - 03/11/12 05:25 PM Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM
eddie Offline
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What a terrible story and something that makes it more difficult for the other soldiers there. We are going to have to say more than "I'm sorry" for this one.
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#746666 - 03/11/12 09:06 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: eddie]
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Meh. No, really. Its a war zone.

Gonna wait for what really happened before I respond how the media wants me to.
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#746693 - 03/11/12 11:51 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Dogfish]
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Sixteen dead including women and children.......guy leaves his unit by himself and goes off into town........

hard to misinterpret

like things aren't whacked out enough over there already.......this will not help
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#746707 - 03/12/12 06:33 AM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Slab Happy]
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I heard a guy (supposedly some counselor who worked with the Military and their families) say "It makes you wonder who the real victim is". I damn near drove off the road. Are you f'ning kidding me?
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#746710 - 03/12/12 07:38 AM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: eddie]
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Loc: Spokane, wa
In simple terms I suspect that alleged counseler meant that you gotta
be nuts to, one on one, shoot up kids. Like that nut in Arizona.
The shrinks will love it. " what were you thinking about?" etc.

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#746711 - 03/12/12 07:43 AM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Illyrian]
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4th tour.
3 Iraq
1st Afghan
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#746714 - 03/12/12 07:51 AM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Direct-Drive]
Illyrian Offline
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Thanks for your service.
At least Korea didn't get sand in everything. beer

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#746732 - 03/12/12 10:24 AM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Illyrian]
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The Afghani's are looking for justice. For once I agree with them. I think we should turn him over to the Afghani "justice" system and let them take of him.
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#746735 - 03/12/12 10:49 AM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Illyrian]
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Originally Posted By: Illyrian
Thanks for your service.
At least Korea didn't get sand in everything. beer

No, wasn't me.
The alleged shooter had done 3 Iraq tours and was on his 4th in Afghan.

If true, maybe those in charge need to look at how much these guys can take.

I can't imagine the stress of every time you go out on patrol you don't know if :

An IED is going to blow you into little bits
A sniper is going to nail you
One of your Afghan patrol members is going to turn and dump a mag into you
Maybe you're walking into an old-fashioned ambush
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#746753 - 03/12/12 12:12 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: GutZ]
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Originally Posted By: GutZ
The Afghani's are looking for justice. For once I agree with them. I think we should turn him over to the Afghani "justice" system and let them take of him.


I agree.

Fish on...

Todd

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#746755 - 03/12/12 12:14 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Originally Posted By: Direct-Drive
Originally Posted By: Illyrian
Thanks for your service.
At least Korea didn't get sand in everything. beer

No, wasn't me.
The alleged shooter had done 3 Iraq tours and was on his 4th in Afghan.

If true, maybe those in charge need to look at how much these guys can take.

I can't imagine the stress of every time you go out on patrol you don't know if :

An IED is going to blow you into little bits
A sniper is going to nail you
One of your Afghan patrol members is going to turn and dump a mag into you
Maybe you're walking into an old-fashioned ambush


Agree
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#746757 - 03/12/12 12:18 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: GutZ
The Afghani's are looking for justice. For once I agree with them. I think we should turn him over to the Afghani "justice" system and let them take of him.


I agree.

Fish on...

Todd


Disagree. Doing something like that would be dead stupid.

The best idea would be to load up the planes and get everybody the fuk out of that Godforsaken country. It'll give the Afghanis a chance to speed up the turning of that country to a sh!thole. Just like it was before we got there.
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#746760 - 03/12/12 12:21 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Hankster]
Todd Offline
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Well, that would be the very best solution, to say the least...but I don't see that happening soon enough to have anything to do with this situation.

Fish on...

Todd

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#746762 - 03/12/12 12:22 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Originally Posted By: Direct-Drive

The alleged shooter had done 3 Iraq tours and was on his 4th in Afghan.

If true, maybe those in charge need to look at how much these guys can take.


+1

No one should be doing 4 tours of duty in a combat zone, and if they are so voluntarily, they should have a psych exam before each returning tour.

I'm all for the guy if he snapped due to PTSD or some other form of war trauma. The military and his country let him down big time.
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#746767 - 03/12/12 12:28 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: parker]
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Perhaps we wouldn't need to send our brave young men and women over there 4 or 5 times if we didn't keep starting unnecessary wars!!
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#746768 - 03/12/12 12:33 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Hopefully they will kick us out of there. thumbs
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#746830 - 03/12/12 04:02 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Sol Duc]
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I think our military produces superb killers out of ordinary men.

I think our nation and our military takes pretty poor care of its soldiers.

I expect there is more to this story.

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#746855 - 03/12/12 06:21 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Salmo g.]
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I think our society produces supreme killers of everything.

Let's let WDFW manage the war........won't be any in short order. wink
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#746856 - 03/12/12 06:26 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: Salmo g.]
eddie Offline
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Loc: Puyallup, WA
Salmo, I agree that there is more to the story. I wonder whether we will ever find out what the rest of the story is? We had better, because openess and transparency is the only chance (albeit slim) to mitigate the Afghani response.
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#747004 - 03/13/12 02:27 PM Re: Alleged Afghan shooter is from JBLM [Re: ]
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It would be bad enough if it was just an isolated incident.

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