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#749079 - 03/21/12 11:05 AM Florida shooting
Dave Vedder Offline
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So what are your thoughts on this?
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#749080 - 03/21/12 11:17 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Dave Vedder]
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the only crime was being black.
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#749088 - 03/21/12 11:45 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: larryb]
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#749093 - 03/21/12 12:18 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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It seems difficult to claim self defense when you arm yourself and run out the front door initiating a confrontation. I understand the loop-hole with Florida's "stand your ground" law but that doesn't sit well with the family of the victim. From what I have read, it seems the guy has an itchy trigger finger and deserves to be put away.



Hopefully, they can verify the cell conversation and have the evidence they need to proceed.
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#749094 - 03/21/12 12:31 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: JTD]
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This happened in a gated community didn't it, I would have thought that all people entering would be subject to identifying themselves so would assume that everyone there should have the right to be there.

The block watch guy seems a tad bit too anxious in his perceived duties.

He should be charged.

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#749101 - 03/21/12 12:50 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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Hard to claim self defense when the weaponless victim isn't even approaching you. Sounds like an overzealous dude that would accost people at boat ramps.

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#749102 - 03/21/12 12:55 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Never thought much of cops shooting unarmed people holding sandwiches and dont think much of guards killing candy holding kids. Should not matter if he is black, white, brown, red or yellow as we have no way of thinking this was race oriented. Just a POS that took his plastic badge a little to seriously.

Put him away for a long long time.
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#749123 - 03/21/12 02:21 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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Sad very sad.

It seems like a travesty to me that the shooter isn't locked up. That poor kid had skittles and a can of iced tea that he'd just bought at the store and was walking home only to be accosted and executed by Zimmerman, an overzealous wanna' be cop.

My prayers for that boy and his family.
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#749124 - 03/21/12 02:23 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: RowVsWade]
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Zimmerman needs to be chopped up and fed to the gators.

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#749131 - 03/21/12 02:48 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: RowVsWade]
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Originally Posted By: RowVsWade
Sad very sad.

It seems like a travesty to me that the shooter isn't locked up. That poor kid had skittles and a can of iced tea that he'd just bought at the store and was walking home only to be accosted and executed by Zimmerman, an overzealous wanna' be cop.

My prayers for that boy and his family.


It doesn't happen too often but RvW and I are in 100% agreement.

If they can enhance that tape and prove Zimmerman uses a racial slur just before he shot the kid. Zimmermen will be charged. As he should be either way.

I can't imagine the rage I would feel if i were that kid's dad. Pretty sure I would be looking for Zimmerman.


Edited by Dave Vedder (03/21/12 02:49 PM)
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#749133 - 03/21/12 02:54 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Dave Vedder]
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i heard play some of zimmerman i think 48 other calls to 911 and they were all about black men in the area. should be able to use them to prove he was a racist. what bothers me the most he was told to back off and the police would handle it.
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#749146 - 03/21/12 03:50 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Guns don't kill people, skittles do. crazy

Looks like a wannbe Cop.
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#749149 - 03/21/12 03:59 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Dave Vedder]
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I'm afraid that if I were that young mans dad Zimmermans problems would be over but mine would have just begun.

I believe this was a racially motivated execution almost reminiscent of 1960's deep south. It SICKENS me to my core.
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#749150 - 03/21/12 04:18 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: RowVsWade]
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Why does the media wan't this to be a black/white issue, when the shooter is clearly Mexican? beathead
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#749155 - 03/21/12 04:40 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Sol Duc]
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I think the media is portraying it more as a hate crime...which it is. At least if you take into account what the killer utters before hand and his motivation for following the young man.

Do you think Zimmerman would have gone as far as he did if the boy was white and wearing a popped collared Izod?
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#749169 - 03/21/12 07:18 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: RowVsWade]
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Sounds like murder to me.

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#749171 - 03/21/12 07:46 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: RowVsWade]
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Clearly an overzealous phuqewad with a fake badge. Reminiscent of the hall monitor clown in high school who wore his scanner on his belt and was one of the "Explorers".

Originally Posted By: RowVsWade
I think the media is portraying it more as a hate crime...which it is.


Aren't all crimes where a victim is involved "hate crimes"?
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#749177 - 03/21/12 07:57 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: StinkingWaters]
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Not according to the FBI.

Defining a Hate Crime

A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a "criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation." Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties.
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#749186 - 03/21/12 08:27 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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My guess is he'll be charged with 2nd degree murder, and will take a plead for Manslaughter.


Edited by Sol Duc (03/21/12 08:28 PM)
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#749194 - 03/21/12 08:55 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Sol Duc]
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