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#757121 - 05/01/12 07:07 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Salmo g.]
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Todd........
Quote:
There is no liberal media bias...period.



THAT belongs in your sig line, Todd!
It's you in a nutshell.

If you don't use it, I will.
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#757126 - 05/01/12 07:19 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Salmo g.]
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Hey Hank,

I agree that MSM is biased toward the left. The explanation is pretty simple. Along with Todd's mention that journalists tend to be educated and educated folks in general lean left

Sg


So anybody who is educated and writes for conservative publications is a RWWJ?
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#757130 - 05/01/12 07:29 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Salmo g.]
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With the co-opting of the Republican Party by the TeaParty lunatics (and other assorted lunatics), anything left of Atilla the Hun is going to be "biased to the left"...to the left of the Republicans, at least.

Thinking Republicans were lamenting the loss of their party long ago when their party of choice abandoned any pretense of fiscal responsibility...now they've been overrun by social fruitcakes that make Sanitorium seem like a viable leader.

Scary.

Fish on...

Todd

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#757138 - 05/01/12 07:40 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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You are truly dillusional. Fiscal Responsibility and Democrat doesn't exactly ring any bells, Bucko.....How is our State of affairs? Republican influenced? yea? nay?
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#757140 - 05/01/12 07:42 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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The "liberal media bias" is accepted as gospel by those on the right with little or no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

Every reporter has biases...no matter what their political stripe...but most tend to be fair and balanced, anyway, to borrow a phrase.

"Liberal Media Bias" has just been said...ad nauseum by those on the right...that even without any factual basis behind it, it is just accepted because they want to believe it, and they've heard it forever.

Slabby, you can have the sig line...or, better yet, use the five minutes it would take to change it to go out and find the actual evidence of the famed "liberal media bias"...but I'll let you know in advance, you will mostly find Hank's discredited "study", and a whole bunch of studies and papers showing that it doesn't actually exist.

Yeah, the studies are done by, ya know, educated people and stuff, professors and other "liberal elitists"...(that's me giving you your out when you can't find any actual liberal bias beyond right wingers assuring you that it exists).

Another consideration is find out what percentage of the electorate overall listens to Fox, Rush, Beck, etc....not only is it the great majority of right wing voters, but they have a stranglehold on it...and their viewers/listeners actually believe they are hearing the truth from those garbage mongers.

Not only is there no "liberal media bias" to speak of, there is also no overarching left wing pretend facts talking points memo that controls what all the liberal reporters say...those right wing talking heads, besides being full of schit and believed wholeheartedly, have some sort of a group hallucination with the truth, whereby they all have the same short list of almost word for word lies that they tell, which in turn are parroted by their true-believing listeners and viewers.

One only need to look at political websites, or the retarded right wing email chain stuff that is copied over onto websites, or posted day and night on facebook...it's almost like the readership is trying to convince itself, too, by sharing the patently false ideas with the world.

Today's new one was getting half a dozen facebook postings of a picture of a little kid in a straw hat, with the caption that "Obama wants kids to stop doing chores!"...when actually it was about a Dept. of Labor proposed regulation, that Obama didn't write, that wasn't enacted, that would have prohibited children from working on farms...as jobs, that is, not from working on family farms, or "doing chores", but preventing children from being hired out to do farm work.

Wrong? Mostly. Misleading? Totally. An accident? Not in the least.

Why do it then?

Not surprisingly, there was a lot of chatter on Fox, and from Rush, purposely saying the same untruth last week...and now it's packaged up in cute little pictures and making the email and facebook rounds right now.

And...the right wingers who get it in their mailbox not only believe it, but send it on to everyone else, adding their own little bit of outrage and the injustice of it all...even though it wasn't even true to begin with.

Fair and Balanced?

You decide.

Fish on...

Todd

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#757141 - 05/01/12 07:45 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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With the co-opting of the Democratic Party by the Stretch Pelosi libprog chowderheads, anything that resembles a Blue Dog Dem is Reagan incarnate.
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#757143 - 05/01/12 07:47 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
The "liberal media bias" is accepted as gospel by those on the right with little or no evidence whatsoever to back it up.

Every reporter has biases...no matter what their political stripe...but most tend to be fair and balanced, anyway, to borrow a phrase.

"Liberal Media Bias" has just been said...ad nauseum by those on the right...that even without any factual basis behind it, it is just accepted because they want to believe it, and they've heard it forever.

Slabby, you can have the sig line...or, better yet, use the five minutes it would take to change it to go out and find the actual evidence of the famed "liberal media bias"...but I'll let you know in advance, you will mostly find Hank's discredited "study", and a whole bunch of studies and papers showing that it doesn't actually exist.

Yeah, the studies are done by, ya know, educated people and stuff, professors and other "liberal elitists"...(that's me giving you your out when you can't find any actual liberal bias beyond right wingers assuring you that it exists).

Another consideration is find out what percentage of the electorate overall listens to Fox, Rush, Beck, etc....not only is it the great majority of right wing voters, but they have a stranglehold on it...and their viewers/listeners actually believe they are hearing the truth from those garbage mongers.

Not only is there no "liberal media bias" to speak of, there is also no overarching left wing pretend facts talking points memo that controls what all the liberal reporters say...those right wing talking heads, besides being full of schit and believed wholeheartedly, have some sort of a group hallucination with the truth, whereby they all have the same short list of almost word for word lies that they tell, which in turn are parroted by their true-believing listeners and viewers.

One only need to look at political websites, or the retarded right wing email chain stuff that is copied over onto websites, or posted day and night on facebook...it's almost like the readership is trying to convince itself, too, by sharing the patently false ideas with the world.

Today's new one was getting half a dozen facebook postings of a picture of a little kid in a straw hat, with the caption that "Obama wants kids to stop doing chores!"...when actually it was about a Dept. of Labor proposed regulation, that Obama didn't write, that wasn't enacted, that would have prohibited children from working on farms...as jobs, that is, not from working on family farms, or "doing chores", but preventing children from being hired out to do farm work.

Wrong? Mostly. Misleading? Totally. An accident? Not in the least.

Why do it then?

Not surprisingly, there was a lot of chatter on Fox, and from Rush, purposely saying the same untruth last week...and now it's packaged up in cute little pictures and making the email and facebook rounds right now.

And...the right wingers who get it in their mailbox not only believe it, but send it on to everyone else, adding their own little bit of outrage and the injustice of it all...even though it wasn't even true to begin with.

Fair and Balanced?

You decide.

Fish on...

Todd


Simply Bullschit.
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#757146 - 05/01/12 07:49 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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Excellent analysis.

Fish on...

Todd

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#757150 - 05/01/12 07:54 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Unlike you, I can get my thoughts across with just a few words. You tend to ramble on incessantly. You must have learned how to do that in your "How to bore the jury in your closing remarks" class. smile
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#757152 - 05/01/12 08:00 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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I just like to use logic and facts...they take a bit longer to explain wink

Fish on...

Todd

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#757154 - 05/01/12 08:01 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Your logic is nonexistent and your facts are made up on the run. smile
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#757156 - 05/01/12 08:06 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Your arguments are much stronger when you don't make totalitarian comments. Just sayin.

You have points I can agree with, i.e., not all reporters do their job with obvious bias. Both sides have writers that are blatantly bias, however......and it is likely that those are the ones who draw the most attention. The crisis cry sells and media that doesn't sell, doesn't exist long.
I'm sure (without counting) that I personally have not watched Fox news more than a dozen times total. I did observe some ridiculous crap aired on Fox.....ridiculous. Whether or not that is it's norm, I can't tell you, but it turned me off.
My view of left leaning news channels (all of our local ones) is one acquired by observation. It is not consistently evident to me, but there are times when it is glaring.
I've been around a few blocks and have kids older than you, so I'm quite sure I can think for myself. I'll bet most all of us can.
And I will use your quote.
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#757269 - 05/02/12 10:40 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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[/quote]So anybody who is educated and writes for conservative publications is a RWWJ? [/quote]

No Hank, I don't. While not on my regular reading list, William F. Buckley of the National Review is an educated conservative writer I've long admired, even when I don't agree with him. This pre-dates 1996 by quite a bit; not sure what you intended to reference there.

A good article I started was titled, "What would WF Buckley think of today's GOP?"

Sg

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#757276 - 05/02/12 11:01 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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Once you're able to form any semblance of a cohesive thought, perhaps you'll be in a position where you can add something of value to the discussion. An argument; an opinion; anything.

Until then, confine your comments to making witless statements about me and we'll confirm our belief you haven't progressed beyond the 2nd grade level.
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#757277 - 05/02/12 11:03 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Hey Hank,

I agree that MSM is biased toward the left. The explanation is pretty simple. Along with Todd's mention that journalists tend to be educated and educated folks in general lean left

Sg


So anybody who is educated and writes for conservative publications is a RWWJ?


Seems to me if you are a RWWJ then you really can't call yourself educated.
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#757280 - 05/02/12 11:08 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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You've proven yourself to be at or below 2nd grade level once again.

Congrats.
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#757287 - 05/02/12 11:13 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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Being at or below the 2nd grade level isn't something you can hang your hat on, Abby.

Just so you know.

wink
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#757296 - 05/02/12 11:33 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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Does having Skittles make Martin a Seahawks fan?
Does having a hoodie on make him a criminal?
Does George's past make him guilty here?
Is following someone illegal?
Is attacking someone illigal?


I'm a little surprised that no one has brought up the suicide by watch captain idea. Perhaps Martin attacked the larger gun packing Zimmerman because he WANTED to die?

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#757309 - 05/02/12 12:01 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: 2MANY]
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I'm guessing that no one brought up "suicide by watch captain" because in a 29 page thread full of retardation, it would have been the most stupid thing to say yet.

Fish on...

Todd

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#757312 - 05/02/12 12:03 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Todd, I think you're the occupier of around 40% of this thread. Is that that the amount of space that isn't "retardation"?
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