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#753700 - 04/14/12 01:31 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Sol Duc]
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#753704 - 04/14/12 02:13 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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If you started arresting people for tattoos, Angelina Jolie would be in prison.
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#753705 - 04/14/12 02:26 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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its not the tattoos per say, but how the hell do you get a bunch of tats, and gold teeth, at 17 years old?

also, No_Limit_N!gga, seriously? LOL... in case you dont know, hes not refering to "no limits", hes refering to No Limit, a southern based rap label, started by Master P, who did the majority of his crap from New Orleans Lousiana, and ALWAYS raps about selling drugs...

now i listen to rap, and have for quite some time now, but i sure as sh!t wont and dont do stupid things like give myself gay tag names like that... thats asking for trouble... funny how that account was deleted from Twitter as well... too bad the internet stores stuff and you cant fully delete it...

kids these days, take music way out of perspective, and turn it into stupid sh!t, like the songs told them to do it, or that they are advocating doing it... for the most part, its all just a cover to sell records, but there are idiots in the rap game that actually do stupid crap like rape, molestation, murder, robbery, ect...

heres a song by Master P, heard it many many times, used to have the CD, but if kids take it out of context, you can see what will happen... listen at your own risk..





Edited by redhook (04/14/12 02:26 PM)

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#753708 - 04/14/12 02:51 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: redhook
now i listen to rap, and have for quite some time now,


Voluntarily?

Then that makes you a donkey.

Hope this helps........
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#753709 - 04/14/12 03:09 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Dan S.]
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How does his lifestyle choice or even his alleged drug use pertain to the night he was shot? Zimmerman had no knowledge of any of that. What's essential here is finding out the facts of the events of that night and letting the jury decide if there was indeed murder in the second degree committed. I highly doubt Zimmerman's attorney will bring up any of Martin's past because that past is irrelevant to the case.
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#753711 - 04/14/12 03:46 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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#753713 - 04/14/12 03:54 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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If they did, it could backfire on the defense. Is a plea for agg assault even an option on a murder 2 ?
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#753715 - 04/14/12 04:11 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Sol Duc]
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i agree hank, the past is the past, but it can also show how the person was, or could have acted during the confrontation... Trayvon was only at his dads house because he was suspended from school for 10 days due to being in an "unauthorized zone"... i was in highschool once myself, and find that a 10 day suspension is total bull crap in that case, and there is something else that happened... he also got in trouble for beating up a bus driver... while the past is the past, it still shows a pattern of behavior..

the 911 operator, told Zimmerman to stop following Martin, i highly doubt it was because they were afraid Zimmerman was going to do something, and rather, that a suspect could pose physical harm to him personally... he didnt listen, and got his [Bleeeeep!] kicked, and someone got shot... how he was shot, is the key in this tho... 10 feet away, saying FU to someone, cannot be an excuse for that, getting repeatedly punched in the face, in some states, warrants that... but as you said, its up to the jury to find out and decide... that poses another problem tho, as look at what happened and is happening all across this country due to this, how can they fully trust jurors to be completely unbiased in this case?

and, if he does get found innocent, or aquitted, watch the riots that erupt in Florida, and across the country due to this... if you thought Rodney King was bad, you have another thing comin....

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#753719 - 04/14/12 04:34 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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I looked for a link to Martin assaulting a bus driver and only found a reference to a Tweet. That could be two kids talking BS and not admissible in court as evidence.

There's a copy of the police report that has info on that night not seen in the affidavit that presents probable cause for arresting Zimmerman. There are witnesses whose names have been blacked out and the officer's report of seeing Zimmerman with a wet and grass-stained jacket, bleeding from the nose and gashes on the back of his head. Also, the officer overheard Zimmerman telling EMT he called for help when he was being struck and no one came.

http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf
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#753720 - 04/14/12 04:42 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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I bet the powder burns are going to be pretty important.
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#753729 - 04/14/12 05:32 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Sol Duc]
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I think rap music is geared towards people with an iq under 50. So when you say that the lyrics mean nothing, they relly do to somebody.


Edited by Salman (04/14/12 06:40 PM)
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#753742 - 04/14/12 07:24 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Salman]
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rap/music = oxymoron
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#753743 - 04/14/12 07:26 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Sol Duc]
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All zoogles are boogles. You saw a boogle. Is it a zoogle? Teenagers who can't answer this right probably do so poor on their SATs
that they don't make it to college. The unfairness of sterotypes - minorities (especially in the south or urban areas) it's the same confusion. Even if most criminals come from their ethnic subgroup, most of their ethnic subgroup are not criminals, but they nevertheless suffer from discrimination by people who should know better. The logical mistake made is in overestimating the odds of a random individual at probably a few hundred thousand times.

6'3" must be from that kkk website again & tatoos, come on he just turned 17 a few days earlier.

Trying to convince someone who can't answer a boogle zoogle question is really pointless. No sense arguing - when an unarmed teenager is shot returning home from buying candy in a neighborhood he belongs in & the grown man who out weighs him who stalked him is gonna tell it to a judge or jury & you are "going on" or upset about it - then you clearly don't know a boogle from a zoogle.

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#753745 - 04/14/12 07:33 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: blue water pro]
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Happy hour? grin
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#753748 - 04/14/12 07:37 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Sol Duc]
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"The Black Swan" The Impact of the HIGHLY IMPROBABLE Author: Taleb - give it a read - you sure the hell could use it.

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#753749 - 04/14/12 07:39 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Sol Duc]
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i dont know what the hell a boogle or a zoogle even is, and have no use for that information whatsoever anyways lol...

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#753751 - 04/14/12 07:43 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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Believe me after reading your posts I did not think otherwise but thanks for clearing that up.

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#753752 - 04/14/12 08:03 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: blue water pro]
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what i read determines how smart i am? well sh!t, i must be a genius then, i have books, and have read about Philo, Plato, Socrates and the Socratic Schools, St Augustine, St. Thomas of Aquinas, Ignatius of Loyola and way too much other crap, that honestly, i dont NEED to know either....


and i know all about the Black Swan, and Talebs interpretation on humans, just never read it, nor care to...

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#753753 - 04/14/12 08:08 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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No it is not what you read that determines how smart you are...it is a simple SAT question I posed that you can't / don't want to answer....(think it through) that determines how smart you are. Now those reads you put up are great reads! Really! IMO for what it is worth....not a book critic, you're pretty much missing the point.

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#753754 - 04/14/12 08:15 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: blue water pro]
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i get what your saying... not all zoogles are boogles, meaning or in this case, not all young black teeneagers, or even black men in general, are like the others that kill, mame, and hurt.. same with whites, asians, mexicans, cougars, bears, and pigmy goats... its called stereotyping, or "profiling" a person based of his skin color..

all zoogles are boogles (the answer is), just cuz it looks the same, doesnt mean it is the same....

BUT

sometimes they are, and sometimes, bad things happen... its up to us to judge life accordingly on the way we live it, certian things can get you in deep sh!t, physically, mentally, and in jailally...

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