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#756562 - 04/28/12 10:35 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Salmo g.]
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.

So far there has been "probable cause" that a crime occurred. Zimmerman was arrested and charged with Murder 2. Zimmerman will be tried for Murder 2. Zimmerman's bashed head is one piece of evidence that may, or may not, indicate he murdered Martin.



Isn't that what I said?
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#756578 - 04/28/12 02:38 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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Not quite Hank, but nice try. I am looking forward to the trial so that we have some facts to discuss rather than random suppositions.
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#756579 - 04/28/12 02:44 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: eddie]
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Tell me then...what is your random supposition of what I said?
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#756584 - 04/28/12 04:36 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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Your random supposition is that Zimmerman had any need to defend himself, actually was defending himself, or used deadly force to defend himself from death...none of which are assured, or even close.

Fish on...

Todd

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#756585 - 04/28/12 04:37 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Well, what do pussies do Odd? You seem to be the authority.

It is rather obvious that if Zimmerman had assumed the pussy role
the incident may not have ended in a death. However, if it is
true that Trayvon was hammering Zimmerman he was requesting
a response a pussy might not have had in his play book. Bang was
the unfortunate alternative.

All the BS aside hopefully we will experience a better trial than
the OJ circus.

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#756589 - 04/28/12 04:53 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Illyrian]
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The case is a loser.
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#756591 - 04/28/12 04:57 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: eddie]
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Originally Posted By: eddie
Not quite Hank, but nice try. I am looking forward to the trial so that we have some facts to discuss rather than random suppositions.


I was on a jury for a double murder (mother, daughter, stabbed numerous times) for 6 weeks and I can tell you that it takes some doing to hear the facts.
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#756595 - 04/28/12 05:29 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Your random supposition is that Zimmerman had any need to defend himself, actually was defending himself, or used deadly force to defend himself from death...none of which are assured, or even close.

Fish on...

Todd


And your random supposition is Zimmerman set out that night in search of a Skittles-wielding thug to shoot in order to fulfill a pussy cop fantasy and all of his injuries were self-inflicted to cover up his deeds.
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#756597 - 04/28/12 05:32 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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No, it's not...and I've never said anything close to that at all.

What I said is that he's a self-appointed vigilante who wouldn't have chased Trayvon down if he weren't armed.

I also said he's a pussy, and he's definitely a self-appointed rent-a-cop with a superhero fantasy...and because he's such a pussy, it got out of hand and now an innocent young kid is dead.

Fish on...

Todd

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#756599 - 04/28/12 05:41 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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So you're saying he's a pussy because he let a kid get the best of him and was beating him mercilessly?

The rest of what you said isn't even close to the truth. He was self-appointed only because he volunteered to become involved in the Neighborhood Watch program..after residents in that neighborhood contacted the Sanford Police Dept. to get it organized. His appointment to it was approved by that dept.
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#756602 - 04/28/12 05:51 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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Gee Hank how many times have you called 911 in the past few months? 46? How many people walking in your neighborhood did you report FOR WALKING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? How many did you follow after the cops (yep it was the cops not 911 this particular call) did you continue to follow after you were told NOT to?


I watch TV also & also not a cop, lawyer or judge
1. Who was the aggressor? Easy answer
2. Was equal force met w/ equal force? Easy answer
3. Don't kill someone unless you ABSOLUTELY have to - did he absolutely HAVE TO? Easy answer Well that is if you are NOT a pussy. Get up & get out.


Oh yeah & on the "911" tape he says - definately says - Trayvon is A TEENAGER.

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#756606 - 04/28/12 06:17 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: blue water pro]
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I've never called 9-1-1 for people walking in my neighborhood because we don't have burglaries where I live. We don't have or need a Neighborhood Watch program.

Where Zimmerman lived it was an entirely different story. Police had been called there 402 times from January 1, 2011, to February 26, 2012. Presumably they were called because of suspicious looking people in the neighborhood. Crimes committed there in the year prior to Martin's death included eight burglaries, nine thefts, dozens of break-ins (at least one with a woman and infant upstairs) and one shooting.
The homeowner's association told residents who saw suspicious activity to call Zimmerman if they could not contact the police. Zimmerman was the caller on 12 of those calls in that time frame.

If that were my neighborhood, maybe I'd be calling 9-1-1, or maybe I'd be waiting in my house for one of them to try to break in. If he broke in, knocked me down and was banging my head on the floor, I'd shoot the fukker.

And I don't giveafuk if you called me a pussy for doing it or not.
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#756608 - 04/28/12 06:27 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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Yeah, Abby's not dense. rofl

We've been beating this horse for over a month.
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#756610 - 04/28/12 06:34 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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In my neighborhood we have car prowlers. They got my sunglasses...I was pissed & also took my hoodie but hung it on the "slow down" sign a block up - guess it didn't fit. At our shop we have metal theives & car prowlers - they got a generator & cut a huge portion out of our exterior wall made of metal. Small community - safe community but one night of action really adds up. It sucks to be robbed. Criminals suck. Just gotta add - surely this community in Florida is not an Oakland (for the sure fact that Zimmerman - the pussy could NEVER survive in a place like that) he would have been killed much sooner & never would have killed. Get real. Cops in some neighborhoods don't even want to take reports on account of bad statistics.

This neighborhood was as safe as anyother. Tell ya how I know that - he addressed 46 people before that happened. In an unsafe neighborhood he probably might have gotten to 2 - if he was lucky.

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#756611 - 04/28/12 06:36 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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It amazes me that living in the land of warmth and sunshine hasn't stirred up your brain cell to the point you made even a semi-coherent or intelligent remark.

That lone cell thinks it's still encased in ice and it's hibernating.

smile
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#756613 - 04/28/12 06:50 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: blue water pro]
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro
Just gotta add - surely this community in Florida is not an Oakland (for the sure fact that Zimmerman - the pussy could NEVER survive in a place like that) he would have been killed much sooner & never would have killed. Get real. Cops in some neighborhoods don't even want to take reports on account of bad statistics.



It's rare when there hasn't been a murder in Oakland; they've had 40 so far this year. Cops there don't even show up for some crimes. I don't go there and I wouldn't go there. In S.F., I won't spend any time in Hunter's Point or Sunnyside and I'd think twice before I went to the Western Addition for something. The Ingleside district is getting bad too.
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#756614 - 04/28/12 06:55 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Abu-Loomis
Originally Posted By: Hankster
It amazes me that living in the land of warmth and sunshine hasn't stirred up your brain cell to the point you made even a semi-coherent or intelligent remark.

That lone cell thinks it's still encased in ice and it's hibernating.

smile




Coming from the guy that's never had an original thought pass between his ears. Go copy/paste something that nobody cares about Wank.


When you get some reading skills and have the ability to sort through items that are relevant to what's being discussed, let me know.

wink
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#756618 - 04/28/12 07:11 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: blue water pro
Just gotta add - surely this community in Florida is not an Oakland (for the sure fact that Zimmerman - the pussy could NEVER survive in a place like that) he would have been killed much sooner & never would have killed. Get real. Cops in some neighborhoods don't even want to take reports on account of bad statistics.



It's rare when there hasn't been a murder in Oakland; they've had 40 so far this year. Cops there don't even show up for some crimes. I don't go there and I wouldn't go there. In S.F., I won't spend any time in Hunter's Point or Sunnyside and I'd think twice before I went to the Western Addition for something. The Ingleside district is getting bad too.


Exactly. How many murders occured in that "super unsafe community" well... one.

On a side note my friend recently went to Waikiki & returned w/horrifing stories. I called some friends & the general feedback is that all the homeless people have now moved to waikiki - nationwide -they are thinking - lol. Can't blame them - not gonna freeze there - outdoor showers & can sleep on the beach in the day.

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#756623 - 04/28/12 07:23 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: blue water pro]
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When I was young and dumb I went to The City for a concert and afterwards walked through the Fillmore district. It's all "gentrified" now, but the night I was there, I was standing in front of Black Panther headquarters reading all of their propaganda in the window. They had a pink ceramic pig in there, surrounded by ceramic panthers.
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#756625 - 04/28/12 07:32 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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cool. not sure what it all mean especially the pig but been looking for a good luck charm for a change of luck. Might have to go to the Value Village tomorrow. Decided to laugh off my troubles - like attracts like - better to laugh than cry. Once was peering thru a window of a all black church on ...not sure what street just off of Geary. The music was so beautiful stood there looking & listening for a good 20 mins before someone came out & grabbed me in w/ a PLEASE join us & so I danced & sang...never went back but gosh miss SF - what a blast I had there.

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