Make up yer mind!!

This is one of those seasonal wedge issues designed to get voters (sheep) to the polls....nothing more.

Both sides will flip and flop depending on which way the wind blows.

Romney just flipped on the GM bailout saying now that his efforts were key in the recovery of the auto maker.

Not much to see here.

I really found this interesting because I can't imagine a single vote change as a result of this decision. It doesn't seem to me to be politically advantageous, so what was his point?

Gay Hollywood money according to CBS News.

The first line of this fundraising letter is priceless:

Katrina –

Today, I was asked a direct question and gave a direct answer:

I believe that same-sex couples should be allowed to marry.
…

I respect the beliefs of others, and the right of religious institutions to act in accordance with their own doctrines. But I believe that in the eyes of the law, all Americans should be treated equally. And where states enact same-sex marriage, no federal act should invalidate them. If you agree, you can stand up with me here.

Thank you,

Barack

Ahhhh, of course. Money. My Dumb!
O da Ho! (Isn't that a State?)




OK, sorry Idaho......

A Washington Post article stated one-in-six of his campaign bundlers is gay. Here's a list of his bundlers if you want to make any guesses who they are.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/bundlers.php?id=N00009638

I can't find fault in someone coming to the correct conclusion.

Go Sox,
cds

His findings "evolve" where ever the money comes from......you can trust him for that.

Nobody said it wasn't the right thing to do. The fact there were fund-raising letters going out within hours of proclaiming his moral strength is pretty sleazy.

Wait, so fundraising around MORAL stances is now sleazy?

I'm on the RNC donor email list (handy!) and 90% of those emails are around MORAL stances. Are you kidding?

Things that make you go HMMMMMM....

Closing comment about Obama girls going to school with kids who are the products of same-sex unions.

Really now? That statement is dumber'N'hell.... not to mention biologically impossible.

You must have missed the fact he sent out the pleas for more campaign cash just hours after he flip-flopped to his new, improved morality.

That same sex marriage could be a campaign issue is evidence of ignorance among the electorate. But that could be said of many issues.

Well said.

Hank,

Is your entire life about the desire to criticize people for actually changing their minds? To me there are three kinds of people. People who can't MAKE UP their minds on anything. People who have opinions but are not afraid change their minds thoughtfully. And finally people who never change their minds.

In your world the first two groups are "flip floppers", but the third group are the ones who have courage.

In my universe the first and last group are pinheads--for changing your mind -- actually allowing yourself to be persuaded by new information, new situations -- that is the hallmark of an active mind.

And while we're on the subject of flip-flopping, how is it that you're going to vote for a guy who flip flopped 180 degrees on major public policy issues (romneycare anyone?) and still bury the President for changing his position about 10 degrees on this issue?

... or is the real issue just that you'll parrot what the RW media wants you to say?

Amazing on each side that when your guy flip-flops he evolves but just change the D to an R and he has no back bone and did for political gain. Is everyone really dumb enough to believe anything these a-holes say. What will be the next evolution.....Check the pols and see which will get them elected. That will lead you right to where each them will have their next epiphany.

Parroting the RW media would be correct if it weren't for the fact the LW media has also speculated whether the Big-O made his historical announcement for the purpose of campaign contributions. The plea for cash that came out only a few hours afterwards is available on multiple sites and they're not all RW.

I'd say I was more cynical of his decision to do this at this time. He had long held the view gays should have rights accorded to others in the matters of hospital visitation, estates and other reasons. He still maintains states should make the decisions on whether gay marriages are recognized. His previous view could be considered 'separate but equal' because he thought marriage should be something between a man and a woman only.

In that 7 of 9 swing states have decided not to recognize them, his decision to come out in favor may or may not make a difference in how those states vote. Who knows? I kind of doubt it because it's something that's at the bottom of the list of voters' concerns.

So, my feeling is he really did it because campaign cash bundlers had told him they would withhold any further donations or efforts until he made his announcement.

In any case, a RWWJ beat him to the punch when Cheney endorsed gay marriages way back in '09.

I'm looking forward to the "Romney is a bully" discussion.

Like a lot of decisions--especially political ones-- that have mulit-dimensional aspects. I think it grossly oversimplifies reality to say "he did it because cash bundlers told him". I posit that there are 4 big reasons:

1. His base wanted him to (your bundler point) because they care about the issue.
2. The nationwide polling trends made it safe
3. Biden waded in and forced the presidents hand

but none of those are the real reason he said it...

4. Because he's held this opinion (and his tongue) for a long time as a political compromise. FINALLY his public opinion matches his private.