Originally Posted By: RICH G
You ever seen what #9 shot does to a human at close range?

I have, it takes off whole limbs.


My go to weapon for "being on the run" is a Ruger M77 22WMR, scoped with a 2lb trigger job, 40 grn winchester hollow points. Very accurate, factory ammo of most types, 100 yard dime size groups no problem. Easy head shot's at 100 yards offhand. Not too loud, no kick, can carry lots of ammo and will kill anything in north america with a well placed shot within 120 yards.

On a side note most body armor will not stop 22 WMR within 50 yards, in-fact most will not stop 22 lr within 25 yards. 17 HMR is also very dangerous as body armor will not stop it. Too much velocity, too small projectile, only steel plates or ceramic will stop it.


I have seen pics of close range shotgun wounds and yes it does major damage. But that's generally within 10 yards or so while the spread is still basically a single lead mass fist size or less. At 20+ yards with most defensive shotgun barrels, that spread is wide enough and weak enough that individual pellets probably won't penetrate zombie skulls. Remember a peppering blast to the face would stop a human, but you gotta hit brain matter to stop a zombie. That's why I'm rolling with 00 buck. The weight and kinetic energy is more than enough to smash zombie skulls. Even bb and t-shot would do it. #9 is a bit light at any normal distance.

Also, who cares about body armor? We are talkin' Zombies here. Unless these zombies have battle helmets on, it's moot. Again, you don't need a .17hmr or .22wmr for zombies. Too zippy. Just a regular old bouncy 22lr that there's trillions of already in the market. Just enough oomph to enter, make scrambled eggs for brains and then stay inside. The scrambled eggs for brains bit is the key here. Again....zombies.
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