thanks guys I am on somewhat on a limited budget right now so am trying to go cheap, I want it to work and want the gear I buy to give me a good chance at learning the sport as best I can. I also don't want to buy something I'm going to need to get rid of the next year because it is so bottom line. Hope the guy's at the show can help me some if thier not just trying to sell gear. I do have a good pair of waders 1000gram lacrosse for extreme cold and some others for warmer weather.

thanks again keep it coming