Thanks for the tips. Another question. There's an area of the Snoqualmie where the pilings are on the south side of the river. You can't get to this area from the south as it is high bank, blackberries, etc. I can wade down the middle of the river but still can't cast far enough to get to the cutts jumping and holding by the pilings. This is one of the most productive holding areas I know. Any suggestions of how to get to the fish. I even tried a spinning rod with a casting bubble which got the flies over the fish, but didn't know if the bubble would spook them or not.